5-Hit Masamune

idk man, judging by your raging atm i'd assume i proc'd your weakness



back to deleveling nin you go, because it's obviously an inferior job

SAM is not that far behind WAR in double attack, and that is the argument for WAR maintaining a 6-hit vs a 5-hit.

I used Masamunai's Damage calculator spreadsheet that was released a while ago as well, it showed the 6-hit masamune beating the 5-hit by a 2% difference~ I don't know how accurate the spread sheet actually is though.

A higher x-hit build also favors ODD more than a lower.

i don't doubt the six and five-hit builds being considerably close on samurai too as far as inside goes, but outside, it's fairly one-sided tbh and will continue to be once store tp v comes out of course (bye tactical mantle, even if it's only five points worth of store tp)

well, that, and the five-hit paired with 20/tick meditate is a common neglected factor as far as those comparisons go imo

i like the 5-hit because of the meditate's 20tp/tick regain, and it stays consistently so. i've had much more success with a 5-hit over a 6-hit both in and outside of abyssea, being able to put out 4 or 5 fudos within a 20 second period with only sekkanoki. I'm also really lazy, and dusk gloves dont really appeal to me because of the lowered movement speed (sad i know, but like i said, i'm lazy :P)

5 hit ?

Not 4 !? weird >.> Thinking Relic be best for GK >.>

I really dont see anything regarding my question in this screenshot, sorry :x. As they say, Quantity > Qaulity

I've played around with 5 hit Masamune a lot and I have to agree with Keyera. It's a hard hitting WS and being able to get 4-5 off in quick succession whenever meditate is up is fun as hell. Light skillchains be *** errything up.

Don't level SAM. Just...don't.

Gonna laugh when at next update relic beats the living crap out of lolmasamune.

More the idea of a good 4-hit than relic (last I checked 90 Amano was on par with Masamune, if not better anyway), but keep on trollin' there~

read the portion above the screenshot for your question to be answered

my point with the screenshot is that the only way you'd ever manage a fudo/kaiten like that on even briareus of all things would be with sneak attack, razed ruins and sanguine scythe, and by doing that i'm fairly certain you're smart enough to realize you'd be gimping yourself terribly, and since the reason behind samurai being so powerful before abyssea was superior weapon skill damage/frequency, WELL, let's just say it's kind of impossible to keep up when it takes three of your own weapon skills to match the damage of merely one put out by a war/sam (who of which weapon skills just as fast as you as well)



lv90 bromune edges out bromanomurakumo by a sly bit currently due to the superior aftermath effect (even though kaiten allows you to tell tactical mantle to kick rocks), but at ninety-five, if there's a notable increase to the x2.5 activation rate and/or even further weapon skill damage increase to relics, well, y'know

stuff

though, as is, +35 accuracy toward things in vwnm in particular is fairly handy too anyways, so there isn't much of a detriment to using it atm ;z

the point of the question was to optimize a 5-hit build on my budget in and out of abyssea, not to compare damage to a warrior, ;) i have no interest in playing warrior, much less getting a hammer for a great axe. make like a sheep hearder, and get the flock out of here :P

lol i did indeed see that, iro lol. just confused as to why you post an ukkos showing ws damage ^^

that's the funny part: it's not even ukko's fury there

its also funny that i herped all over my derp. Raging Rush*

iron, PM me your War's WS set plz lol... and atmas you use lol... I took a break, but couldn't bust 5k+ RR's on my 89 War >_< (Granted I need a better Gaxe....)

they're technically not "my" sets, more-so the general agreed consensus of many warriors/mathematicians, but either way,

hi (near the bottom)

Preciate ya mate, thx

IM sorry guys but I just got back to game and was wondering how much store tp do you need in gear for a 5 hit? I have 5/5 store tp merits.

*Fixed!



This is what I plan on using for my 5-hit, Moonshade has regain on it. I don't have Fazhuelo mail or Ganesha mala, probably won't 'cause my LS won't do Voidwatch. Don't have Hachi either as I sold them a while ago,but I'm working on getting a new pair. Only obvious upgrades to these that I see, but overall should work.

Unless I'm missing something, you shouldn't need regain on the earring to 5-hit with that set. You can wear bushi or some atk earring in its place.

I don't have these in a FFXIAH equipset unfortunately, but this is my 5-hit build and my fudo set.

Fudo won't provide 20 TP with that WS set.

You don't need fudo to give 20 TP. Take a look at this spreadsheet. Pretty sure you can save off a copy of it for your own use to play with.

Hmm interesting, I neglected to add the fraction of TP after the base amount.

81 average. (90 sam and full merits is 40). So you only need to average +41 stp in gear over the 5 hits (including ws).

my ghetto sam builds. Don't have +2 boots yet or rose strap, but still maintains true 5 hit.

TP



WS

5/5 store tp merits

5hit

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WS

I'm curious as to why you guys opt to use Twilight over varangian.