Fusetto+2 Off Hand...

Just wondering if anyone knows if this works off hand...

I heard "Rumors" that both of them do...

Would like some input on what people think about it...

Good day

Iirc they don't work offhand. However, for stuff like AE cleave or brew, the +100 TP Bonus is a great mainhand dagger.

Miss read~

Hmmm

that makes me sad...

but yea AE, I would bet its awesome..

There are a few other "Fusetto" threads on the THF forum here. From what I read, the Stp should work offhand, but not the + WS DMG or the TP Bonus.

Its does a friend confirmed it today...

Now I have something to do while I merit...

Whats the bonus for the 100% TP off the +2... i'm just not math saavy, and really want to know if I should do that as the +2.

The 100 TP Bonus is the equivalent bonus we'd get off Hagun and the other "Martial" weapons. It adds another 100 TP to your TP mod so it's as if you always WSd at 200 TP, when in reality you WSd at 100, and 300 TP, when in reality you WSd at 200.

It's particularly good for Aeolian Edge because the WS itself has a very high TP modifier, jumping from 2.75 at 100 TP to 3.5 at 200 TP. The WS is also elemental and AoE, so the base damage on the weapon is not as relevant as the Stats and TP modifiers.

For other WSs though, the weapon's base damage will be more important, so a Fusetto+2 won't be as effective, say, as a STR Kila+2 for Evisceration, which has a fixed 1.0 TP modifier. Again, for Aeolian Edge though, it's the best weapon you could use. That's why Martial knife is still so pricy, because it offers the same TP bonus of Fusetto +2

TP Bonus +100 works offhand. WS damage+10% supposedly does not.

To any thf's who are doing this Abyssea - Altepa is the place to be imo.

Being able to find mobs easy, getting Tiger king hides and scrolls I think anyone attempting this dagger should head there...

Atm I am at 85 Twashtar and have obtained 12 tiger king hides in the process of doing the trials...

GL guys lets hope its worth it.

Not that I'm disagreeing with you, everything you said is correct mostly. Base damage has no effect on Aeolian Edge so no downside to it. Jinpu is the only WS I can think of that base damage does something for. There may but more but at least all of the other red WS also arent effected by base damage.

That's what I meant, hehe. I must've expressed myself poorly.
Good to know the +100 TP Bonus also works offhand though. It means you can mainhand a MAB Kila +2 (+9 INT, +10 MAB) and offhand Fusetto +2 for a massive Aeolian Edge build.

whoa whoa, wait what?

you mean you can mainhand a martial knife and offhand a tp bonus fusetto?

I honestly doubt the two bonuses would stack.

then what would be the purpose of offhanding it?

AE isnt affected by weapon base damage, so you could go Fusetto/kila kila/fusetto and there wouldnt be a difference

edit: i guess the ws damage could be mainhanded
edit #2: nevermind they both have the name fusetto so you could only have one right?

holy witch ***!? i can do martial/fusetto and ws as if it's 300 tp? someone tell me if that is right or wrong =o?!

Technically you could have a fusetto+1 weaponskill damage mainhand and a fusetto+2 tp bonus offhand but whatever

=O

Are you sure?

i thought it didnt matter if it was +2 or +1 as long as the item name is on it and it is rare

...there can only be one?

see ive thought of that with OAT and OA2~4 but in a different thread someone told me it was impossible

It's not the same item name, one clearly has +1 the other clearly has +2 which is part of the item name.

So in theory you can main hand +2 and offhand +1, I've never done it myself, but I recall reading multiple threads claiming OaT high damage axe +2 with +1 OaT (triple attack) axe offhand was 'beast'
And those are also same name.

Today I got my Fusetto+2 yay me...

First thing I did was check A.E dmg on peiste's by gukamatz

No Fusetto on off hand

523
544
543
544
237
544
544

with fusetto on off hand

732
742
654
732
732
732
654

Sadly, When used with Rudra's Storm I didn't get a LvL2 AM with it... But noticed better dmg with it on unstacked use...

Rudra's Storm W/o Fusetto on off hand
lower then 500dmg x 8

912
1200
1111
663
689
1536
689
1284
670
1394
1010
1032

Rudra's storm With Fusetto on Off hand
lower then 500dmg x 3

1208
1195
1666
1568
1198
1034
1678
1145
2123
1223
1543
1231

Was looking to buy a Martial Dagger prior to testing but I couldn't find one... But when I do I will test to see if it works with Fusetto+2...

Which Fusetto +2 is this? TP Bonus +100, I'm assuming (because your AE numbers were >10% higher)?

It's nice to have confirmation of this, and yeah we already knew that TP Bonus didn't affect AM level from the Moonshade earring.

Also, in response to the above posters (sorry, forgot about this thread), I'd bet sizeable amounts of gil that Martial + TP Bonus Fusetto +2 works for a 300 TP Forced Aeolian Edge every time. Should be very easy to tell, because it won't have any variability no matter what TP you go at.

yea +100tp bonus ^^ sorry... I will test as soon as I get that martial dagger... Blame thuggin on bismarck for wanting 1.2m for it... :P

Awesome... I've been sitting on a +1 for a while, was going to wait until 95 cap before choosing between 10% and TP Bonus to see how the daggers progress. Looks like it's time to finish this one as TP Bonus then start another and stop at +1 for 10% ws damage (assuming it lets me, but I don't know why it wouldn't... Fusetto +1 != Fusetto +2)

Thanks for testing this!

Thanks...

I'm really looking forward to killing harder stuff to see how this vs triplus for off hand... will show parse data when we spam something of value....

What were you using for an offhand while testing rudra's storm instead of fusetto?

I used only twashtar... I think triplus would have given it a advantage...

Well no wonder you got a dmg increase when you offhanded the fusetto, dual wielding adds an additional attack to your weaponskills.

I'm almost done my fusetto+2 TP bonus, to properly test you need to offhand a dagger with close to same damage as the fusetto+2 as your baseline.