Dynamis - Nothing Drops

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Blade: Hi

/sigh

anyways, so that is how you proc , that is interesting, i shall try it tonight

Cool story bro

Solo'd Xarc as bst/dnc twice earlier today, before and after jp midnight. I got all time extensions each run. Total currencies were 38 shells 40 bronzepieces and 38 bills. The first run I was mostly roaming and fought a wide variety of jobs just getting used to actually staggering anything. Second run I camped at G-9 and only fought the rng/nin/thf mobs in the southern tunnel while I tried to pop the bst nm, who I also killed twice. Hit red !! on nearly everything there and earned about 3/4 my total currency along with thf and bst hands. Fights were very routine starting with Spiral spin, Box step, and animated flourish, that staggered prolly 90% of what I fought.

i was thinking about this earlier. Upbeat was procing the same mobs with both /dnc JAs and Blade: Hi. this would debunk the whole mages proc w/ magic, mnk nin thf rng etc proc w/ JAs, sam war pld drk bst proc w/ WSs no?

All right! Finish Beauc run. all 5 TEs, all red procs. Proc'd about 95% of the mobs. Very good currency rate tonight ^^ Think we got this sorted. Do a citty run with 1 type of currency and your sure to get a nice haul!

And you used what method to proc your 95% of mobs?

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/21701/dynamis-mob-procs/#1312751

Upbeat was only fighting THF and MNK mobs. In the video at least. And THF and MNK mobs are both staggered by JAs. And where are you seeing that she proced Blade: Hi on any monster in that video? It was all Steps and Flourishes; JAs. On MNK and THF mobs.

Job specific

JA: MNK NIN THF RNG BST
WS: PLD SAM DRG DRK WAR
MA: WHM RDM BLM SMN BRD

Worked a charm after getting all the TEs.

Our set up was

DRG
WHM
RDM
MNK
THF
NIN
SAM

Got two pop items to finish a friends level 90 trials also ^^ Now to go into xarc tomorrow and try get my damned TH gloves... >_o

Quick note (not sure if mentioned): Tractor works. Also, it gives remaining time since it counts as a zone.

Did dynamis sandy tonight with a friend. Lightsday/Darksday

THF/NIN
RDM/BLM

We got 5 TEs and then farmed (mostly pulled mages). We followed the mage = magic proc, heavy melee = WS, light melee = JA plan.
We were able to proc about 90% of the mage mobs. All procs were red. Also i don't know if this has been mentioned but we noticed that all of the procs for my rdm friend were enfeeb spells.

Only other procs we got were aeolian edge on a pair of war mobs.


Ended up with 57 currency.

Question, Since NIN has no procs for JA's, would nin/war be a very easy way of procing for JAs than? Dont know if this has been asked or not.

i used voke every time i could in the hour and ten minutes i was in xarc to day and i didn't recieve one procc..

Incase it hasn't been said here, the elemental wheel theory is wrong. Just left dyna windy and had 4 darkness procs in a row, and then an earth proc after that. There is also some pics on BG where people disprove it as well.

Dynamis - San d'Oria:
Confirming proc types are based on monster's jobs as listed earlier
Confirming that your proccing ability is based on how many TE key items you have

3/5 TEs we started proccing blue with difficulty, usually landed us 1 piece (got Crimson, Azure, Amber)
4/5 TEs we started proccing yellow moderately, usually landed us 1 piece (got Alabaster)
5/5 TEs we started proccing red easily, usually landed us 2-3 pieces, sometimes only 1 (got Obsidian)
One member joined late and could not stagger until he collected his TE key items.

82 Ordelles, 1 Montiont (from unprocced NM)

stole 2, 3 dropped to another member, so number in screenshot is off

I am confirming that this is how it works.
JA/WS/spell seems to be random, BRD is amazing at proccing on mages, DNC or /DNC would be great for JA (we couldn't proc many because our only successfully proccing JA were Steal, Weapon Bash, and Enmity Douse). Can try to figure out any patterns, though.

Can confirm TEs, went on Iceday since that was the day people had trouble with. No trouble after getting 5/5. System seems pretty simple now.

Yeh i think its safe to say we go this sorted, day has no affect at all. Its all down to mob type and TEs collected.

Thats cuz you didnt have all the TEs. Also did you follow the job specific notes on what mobs you fought and did you use any other JAs?

Im reasonably sure that the proc is just any random ja/ws/spell that you can do at x%, try having your dd's sub war and all spamming voke on ja mobs, can also have then try spamming crap ws' in non ws gear as well to see if proc. Did a duo xarc last night and were able to proc every single mob once we had 3 te's, on the magic mobs i was able to proc just by alternating dia1/2 over and over.

For the people who have also noticed colors changing etc once 3/5 4/5 5/5 TE, have you noticed what TE's you have got in which order, if so please post it.

Last nights we got crimson > azure > amber > alabastor > Obsidian, i want to try and narrow down what each one does.

My current theory is something along the lines of
Staggers have 3 levels, Basic (Blue), Medium (Grellow), Full (Red)
Crimson TE - Allow you to proc on ws mobs
Azure TE - Allow you to proc on Magic mobs
Amber TE - Allow you to proc on Magic mobs
Alabastor/Obsidian - Either change your stagger to a certain color, or bump it 1 "level"

Your name is welsh >.>

Well done, Well done.

Not a coincidence, i live in wales!

i would have to see a blue proc after 1 TE to buy this


as far as the mob job theory, it seemed to be fairly accurate in the run i did last night in glacier. however, Blu spells seemed to be outside that system. Expiation proced several heavy melee mobs. anyone else w/ blue spell proc experiences?

Already confirmed blue. The first TE we got was Crimson, second was Azure. We did not get any triggers until 3/5. Going again tonight.

Also, not just BLU spells, but PUP was very weird with its proccing. Our PUP would put up a maneuver and the WS-proc monster would suddenly get staggered (pet did not do anything, said it was the PUP's attack that staggered in the log). Log did not contain any actions by the PUP and he pointed out this confusion. Very weird, will screenshot if it happens again.

I proc'd with headbutt as drg/blu.

Yeah, its just a theory atm, my plan for next run i do duo is going to be go to xarc, get the azure te, then spend 10m trying to proc on a brd mob. If we can proc magic after just the azure te, will then move onto a ja mob, spam that for 10m or so and see if it procs, if not will get amber TE and then try again. Will be easy to prove that idea one way or another. Once we get blue procs as well i think we are going to keep spamming mobs/nms with blue to see if we get any difference in drops, before finally getting the last 2 TEs.

**Ideally anyone mentioning proc's they did with blue spells, should say which mob type it was as well as what spell, just saying you proc'd with HB as drg/blu wont really help at this stage. Also unless im missing something Expiacion is a ws, so it would make sense it proccing on war/pld/sam/drk/drg

I brought this up in the other tread but figured i'd throw it in here as well...

I do not beleive that there are any specific procs, instead it is just if it is a WS JA or magic then it has a chance to proc on the corisponding mob job type. This would explain why it sometimes the same ability used twice or more could end up staggering... Also if it is picking a specific ability then mages really wouldn't be able to proc given that they have 100ish possible spells (or more idk how many spells mages get) since teir 1 2 3 4 5 -ja and enfeeble spells can all proc.

On another note, does anyone know if you need to be in exp range of the TE nms when they die or just in the zone? also any ideas on their repop?

Can be dead at entrance to and get TE KIs on the other side of zone, repop is pretty much a minute after death.



Btw, as for the color theory earlier, I noticed assorted colored !! last night when we got procs, mostly yellows after all 5 TEs. Orders of ours was whatever the first windy one was, followed by going to the others in a counter-clockwise order.

Has anyone noticed a increase in exp with more TE or longer duration of mobs frozen? I have only gotten yellow and red as I go straight.for TE then farm mobs. But in glacier I got 150 exp on hides with no proc, 520 with red, all were on hydra. And I have gotten 100's with no proc on NM and a bunch of singles (rare) with no proc. I have no TH as well. Will test more when I get home

aren't all blu spells essentialy mob tp moves, i.e. mob WSs? would it follow that all blu spells count as WSs as far as this proc system goes?

They use stats based of the physical side and may deal physical damage but the game still counts them as a spell as far as I know. Maybe not when CA is active then it might count as a WS but pritty sure it's still a spell.