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 Valefor.Slipispsycho
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-05-08 10:59:53
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Decided to go ahead and make a thread on it since there isn't one yet, and wanted to see who all is getting it?

Well PC version anyways, I hate playing FPS on console, it's one of the few (maybe the only?) genre where playing on PC actually makes the most sense (due to keyboard/mouse rather than controller. Mouse makes for far better reaction times, using a keyboard takes some getting used to though). If you plan on getting it on PC we should hook up in game and pop some heads. :).

I will be pre-ordering it, nothing could stand in my way of getting it.. I'm a huge Battlefield fan, and have been since 1942.

I was actually in a state of shock when I saw that 3 was on it's way.. I hadn't actually kept up on the next/newest installments, and while I love BC and BC2, there's just no Battlefield on console that compares to BF2 (and arguably, no FPS on console period that does).
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-05-08 11:03:12
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I'll be getting it for Xbox 360, but we can still share stories about ^^;
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-05-08 11:07:47
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Is the console version going to be the same? I know consoles don't like to put more than like 16 players or so* in a single game, in BF2 on PC the server limit is 64 (I can't imagine how empty some of the maps would be with only 8 people per team on BF2 <_<;;;)

*AVERAGE modern game
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By Bismarck.Moonlightespada 2011-05-08 11:08:09
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Yea I'm getting this. Just hope it don't get old like bc2 did
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-05-08 11:11:34
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Valefor.Slipispsycho said:
Is the console version going to be the same? I know consoles don't like to put more than like 16 players or so in a single game, in BF2 on PC the server limit is 64 (I can't imagine how empty some of the maps would be with only 8 people per team on BF2 <_<;;;)

Bad Company 2 and previous BFs had 12 vs 12 max, iirc. Honestly, that's more than enough to me. 32 v 32 just sounds like a giant clusterfuck of people >_< but I can see how it could also be fun.

I just get the console versions since that's what I'm used to and my computer is not built for gaming at all.

I think the most any recent game had was 16 v 16, so maybe BF3 will have that.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-05-08 11:18:32
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Lol, can't believe I forgot that BC and BC2 had 24 <.<. Still not a huge difference from 16 though..

If you've never played BF2, I can understand why you would think 64 is way too much.. But the maps are huuuge. I mean yeah you'll have the majority of the players all clustered in one relatively small area, almost always the two closest flags occupied by opposing forces, but you also have helicopters and planes flying above, tanks and transport vehicles just busting through enemy lines to go deep (usually by a single squad) into enemy territory to take over flags that the enemy is ignoring because the majority of the fighting and push for a flag capture is between those two aforementioned flags.

Makes for a more dynamic game play I'd say. It actually kinda balances out in the end and plays the same for other games that have smaller total server capacity but also have much smaller maps and fewer options to use to bypass the enemy front.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-05-08 11:33:07
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If I had a good enough PC, I'd totally get it for PC and just use a 360 controller (I still cannot use a keyboard to save my life xD), but that's not happening any time soon, so I'll have to deal with some watered down maps.

We certainly won't have 64 people though.
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It will reintroduce several elements absent from the Bad Company games, including fighter jets, the prone position and 64-player battles on PC. To accommodate the lower player count on consoles, the ground area will be limited for Xbox 360 and PS3.

No mention on how much of a lower count, but at max I'd say 16 v 16.
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By Gilgamesh.Cardinalgate 2011-05-08 11:34:30
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mah i hope this ***is better then BF2 and bad company 1/2
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-05-08 11:44:13
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I loved BF2, it took me forever to get tired of it. I just changed up my play style.. Like I'd spend months being a happy camper as a sniper, then when that got boring, I'd support everyone (medic/support) then after that, then I became an assault leader focusing on breaking the line and taking flags, afterwards I learned to become deadly in the chopper, and finally, I got a joystick and started raining down hell from above in the jets <.<

I also really loved the mod that came out for it, I can't remember the name of it anymore, but it was all new maps (well for BF2 anyways) new vehicles, new weapons.. Too bad everyone stopped playing it, I loved sitting in the Howitzer (artillery) I actually got pretty good at aiming at things I wasn't even close to being able to see directly.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2011-05-08 12:19:08
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Hands down the best FPS trailer I've ever seen. Call of duty now has to actually work instead of clone their games lol.

*** literally amazing and hands down getting.
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By Siren.Corrin 2011-05-08 12:23:13
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I was floored when I saw the trailer. I liked the BF series but I'm always a little put out by games that are focused on multi-player when I don't have a consistent group of friends to play with. But yeah this trailer. . .I think I'm going to get it as soon as it comes out.
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By Unicorn.Booz 2011-05-08 12:30:52
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Ps3 only to play with my nephew and other friends that don't have a pc that can play it but none the less already got it payed for ... win
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2011-05-08 12:33:42
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They will scale down the maps for the lower player counts on xbax.

So you won't have empty maps.

but yeah this game will rule.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Ultrarichard 2011-05-08 12:35:07
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I've been literally dying to play BC2 x.x Seriously like.. going mental.

The trailer looks the nuts. I'ma get it for PS3 though, cause that's where my friends that play battlefield are.. though I wish I could play on PC.

I dislike that we get smaller ground maps but bigger air maps, that's a little shitty.. considering how many times I've ever been in a copter and enjoyed it :(
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-05-08 12:38:35
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PC and 360 copies both for me. PC just to max it out and see how pretty it is mostly for single player. 360 because Haseyo and a lot of the crew I play shooters with are xbox based.

Edit: I do want to point out though I've posted this video in seperate places like 3 times already though :/
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By Leviathan.Angelskiss 2011-05-08 12:40:05
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omfg this game looks unreal ..so beautiful ..MUST HAVE
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By Siren.Corrin 2011-05-08 12:40:23
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Quetzalcoatl.Ultrarichard said:
I've been literally dying to play BC2 x.x Seriously like.. going mental.

The trailer looks the nuts. I'ma get it for PS3 though, cause that's where my friends that play battlefield are.. though I wish I could play on PC.

I dislike that we get smaller ground maps but bigger air maps, that's a little shitty.. considering how many times I've ever been in a copter and enjoyed it :(

Steam has a sale today on all Battlefield games. BC2 is like $7 :o
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-05-08 12:50:51
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Siren.Corrin said:
Quetzalcoatl.Ultrarichard said:
I've been literally dying to play BC2 x.x Seriously like.. going mental.

The trailer looks the nuts. I'ma get it for PS3 though, cause that's where my friends that play battlefield are.. though I wish I could play on PC.

I dislike that we get smaller ground maps but bigger air maps, that's a little shitty.. considering how many times I've ever been in a copter and enjoyed it :(

Steam has a sale today on all Battlefield games. BC2 is like $7 :o
$5 Battlefield 2
Snagged it.
Considered BC2 and MoH but I have both for 360. All MoH/Battlefied(DICE) shooters are on sale on steam.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Ultrarichard 2011-05-08 18:58:44
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I'd love to play it on PC. Does it need good specs? I would guess mine are a little outdated. Especially my graphics.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-08 19:59:17
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It'll take a lot to surpass 2142 and 2.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-05-08 20:05:23
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Quetzalcoatl.Ultrarichard said:
I'd love to play it on PC. Does it need good specs? I would guess mine are a little outdated. Especially my graphics.
You can safely assume a low end PC is not going to handle it without some serious compromises to either graphic detail, frame rate or even both.

What are you PC specs?

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Recommended System Requirements
Processor: Quadcore Processor
Memory: 4 GB
Video Memory: 512 MB
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Recommended is rarely what is required to play on max, it's more for medium to medium-low settings.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Ultrarichard 2011-05-08 23:57:23
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Valefor.Slipispsycho said:
Quetzalcoatl.Ultrarichard said:
I'd love to play it on PC. Does it need good specs? I would guess mine are a little outdated. Especially my graphics.
You can safely assume a low end PC is not going to handle it without some serious compromises to either graphic detail, frame rate or even both.

What are you PC specs?

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Recommended System Requirements
Processor: Quadcore Processor
Memory: 4 GB
Video Memory: 512 MB
link.

Recommended is rarely what is required to play on max, it's more for medium to medium-low settings.

I've only got dual-core, and 3GB ram with a cheap 30 quid graphics card. It's a cheap computer that cost me only £330 so I never expected much out of it. Is there some kind of benchmark we can take or will I just have to wing it and hope it's decently playable :/
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-05-09 00:05:38
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Quetzalcoatl.Ultrarichard said:
Valefor.Slipispsycho said:
Quetzalcoatl.Ultrarichard said:
I'd love to play it on PC. Does it need good specs? I would guess mine are a little outdated. Especially my graphics.
You can safely assume a low end PC is not going to handle it without some serious compromises to either graphic detail, frame rate or even both.

What are you PC specs?

Quote:
Recommended System Requirements
Processor: Quadcore Processor
Memory: 4 GB
Video Memory: 512 MB
link.

Recommended is rarely what is required to play on max, it's more for medium to medium-low settings.

I've only got dual-core, and 3GB ram with a cheap 30 quid graphics card. It's a cheap computer that cost me only £330 so I never expected much out of it. Is there some kind of benchmark we can take or will I just have to wing it and hope it's decently playable :/
There will almost certainly be a demo.. Generally speaking, if you can run the demo, then you can definitely run the game, because demos are rarely optimized for performance.

Demos are better than benchmarks anyways.. They actually give you a feel for the performance rather than tell you in numbers how you rate on a scale made by the developer (in other words, benchmarks are not industry-wide standardized, and it leaves a lot of room for questioning on what exactly the numbers mean).
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-05-09 00:10:44
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Valefor.Slipispsycho said:
Quetzalcoatl.Ultrarichard said:
Valefor.Slipispsycho said:
Quetzalcoatl.Ultrarichard said:
I'd love to play it on PC. Does it need good specs? I would guess mine are a little outdated. Especially my graphics.
You can safely assume a low end PC is not going to handle it without some serious compromises to either graphic detail, frame rate or even both.

What are you PC specs?

Quote:
Recommended System Requirements
Processor: Quadcore Processor
Memory: 4 GB
Video Memory: 512 MB
link.

Recommended is rarely what is required to play on max, it's more for medium to medium-low settings.

I've only got dual-core, and 3GB ram with a cheap 30 quid graphics card. It's a cheap computer that cost me only £330 so I never expected much out of it. Is there some kind of benchmark we can take or will I just have to wing it and hope it's decently playable :/
There will almost certainly be a demo.. Generally speaking, if you can run the demo, then you can definitely run the game, because demos are rarely optimized for performance.

Demos are better than benchmarks anyways.. They actually give you a feel for the performance rather than tell you in numbers how you rate on a scale made by the developer (in other words, benchmarks are not industry-wide standardized, and it leaves a lot of room for questioning on what exactly the numbers mean).
This. Take the horrid that was the FFXIV benchmark. Ranks my computer as barely above the minimum yet I can run the game at max with high frame rate. As Slip said a demo will give you a chance to eye out how your PC would perform under certain loads. You may be fine running but one large explosion and you dip from 24 fps to 7 and it becomes unplayable.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-05-09 00:16:33
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The FFXIV benchmark brings up a whole new part of the equation, bias. I saw quite a few stories about people with Nvidia being rated higher than those with ATi, even when performance wise it was completely backwards. In fact, with a GTX260 I was rated higher than I was with an HD4870, on the same computer, just video cards switched.. Yet on the GTX I had to run settings at medium to get the same frame rates I did on the HD4870 while running most everything on high (minus ambient occlusion and stuff, it just sucks performance out and I don't really notice the difference anyways).

Same happened on GTAIV too.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-05-09 00:20:18
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Valefor.Slipispsycho said:
The FFXIV benchmark brings up a whole new part of the equation, bias. I saw quite a few stories about people with Nvidia being rated higher than those with ATi, even when performance wise it was completely backwards. In fact, with a GTX260 I was rated higher than I was with an HD4870, on the same computer, just video cards switched.. Yet on the GTX I had to run settings at medium to get the same frame rates I did on the HD4870 while running most everything on high (minus ambient occlusion and stuff, it just sucks performance out and I don't really notice the difference anyways).

Same happened on GTAIV too.

Most games will have a bias though when playing them because they do work with Nvidia or AMD to optimize their games for one of the two manufacturers. EA and DICE in recent years has actually been making their games optimized for AMD. :/ Kinda makes me sad since I just ordered this GTX 590 when it launched.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-05-09 00:25:10
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Well I know that, but I'm talking about substantial differences and on top of that, far lesser cards being ranked 'higher' more powerful cards, simply because they're ATI/Nvidia..

I mean I understand they're not going to go through and make sure everything is the same or similar for thousands (if not millions..) of different combinations..

But there is certainly a bias, and for that reason the benchmarks really can't be taken seriously.
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Ramuh.Haseyo said:
I think the most any recent game had was 16 v 16, so maybe BF3 will have that.
MAG had 256v256.

Haven't heard of it or played it? Shows how much people care to play giant clusterfucks of people.
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Fenrir.Enternius said:
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
I think the most any recent game had was 16 v 16, so maybe BF3 will have that.
MAG had 256v256.

Haven't heard of it or played it? Shows how much people care to play giant clusterfucks of people.
Nope, I heard about it, and I thought it sounded quite interesting, just when it came time to get it, I had sold my PS3 a few weeks earlier. But just for you, let me add in a in a little asterisk.. *AVERAGE modern game

Btw, checked on the BF2 servers anytime recently? I think the fact that the game is as healthy as it is, despite being is as old it is proves 2 things.. 1 people don't 'dislike cluster ***' as much as you might think, in fact I think people get bored more easily when it's just a small map with 16-32 players stuck on the ground (Actually it would probably have even more, except PS3 and 360 have really taken over the FPS market as of late) and 2 The battlefield series is well liked.

BF2 right now (I just checked a few days ago) is just as strong, if not stronger than any other FPS with a 'non cluster ***' amount of people playing.

I think you're just projecting your own feelings onto everyone else and assuming them to be truths.

BTW, what exactly is it you do like? You seem to talk down about every single game there is.. Do you even like gaming?
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By Gilgamesh.Cardinalgate 2011-05-09 19:18:44
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is their a release date yet?
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