Ebisu Fishing Rod = Relic

That's different from what people were arguing early though. It may be a legitmate concern, but most ppl were like LOLBOT LOL. I'd argue an ebisu is potentially a huge time sink that you stop botting for gil to get.


But really I can't see that double credit argument really legitimately flying. Fishing level is independent of most things. You don't need exactly 100 fishing to get ebisu iirc. At the very least you don't need 100 to start working on it. Also, Aegis counts when you can't wear it til 75 pld, are we double counting there?

I think this is a fair enough point, Jaerik, but allow me to reply to you and some other critics of the idea.

I was under the impression that it would be added to the graphic list for a user, I wasn't thinking that it would add to any achievement points. As an Ebisu owner myself, I think it would be nice to see a little acknowledgement of the time and effort put into the undertaking, even if it does nothing for my rank on my server (which is nearly 900 anyway, so who cares?).

To those who point out the luck aspect, I can point out that a lot of things in this game are based on luck. Getting required drops, pop items, alexandrite, NM claims, etc. can all vary by how lucky you are. While one could get the items needed as low as fishing level 30, one cannot get the actual rod until they have the key item Serpent Rumors, which you can't get until fishing level 70. And any fisher can tell you, it takes a lot of patience to get to that level, on par with any relic weapon hunter.

I hope this gives some food for thought.

Here you go Maruraba lol



took so long because i'm fighting in abyssea too ; ;

Thank you!

Is that necessary?

Trolls will keep pushing buttons to keep seeing what they can get away with unfortunately :(

Can't help but find some degree of irony in others relishing in another's misfortune. Wouldn't that be similar to jumping into a behavior you for so long condemned and complained about, but only when you get your way?

How else is Neon supposed to enjoy any sort of little victory?

Calling Neon a troll is giving him way too much credit.

ehh

I don't have a rod.. and I think it should be given points for people.

(fishing skill 7 >_>)

Regardless of its difficulty compared to empyrean / relic / mythic / w/e

Its still a challenge to get via legitimate means

just like other weapons are a challenge as well via legitimate means


Just because somebody fishbotted to an ebisu or gil farm botted stupid stuff like beehive chips for money to get a relic isn't a reason to not give it points imo

edit.. I know maat's cap is a challenge too.. I just always assumed the points for the cap were already calculated into the points you get for having a job at maat level...

I really don't see Ebisu as double counting. That's like saying awarding points for a relic is double counting because you already have to level the job to 75.

Even though Ebisu is luck based, I've heard of very few people who have managed to get it without serious dedication. Trading in thousands of Gugurusaurus or w/e they are, whether they were fished or bought is some serious work.

I don't care one way or the other (about achievements in general), but I'd consider Ebisu on equal footing with relics, and well above empyrean weapons considering how fast people manage to get those done.