Just about done with upgrading my dancer TP and WS sets but i feel like I'm missing a few things. Need some ideas how to improve my TP and ws sets for Dancer. I mostly solo or lowman on my Dancer for Linkshell events. Any help would be great.
For TP :
For WS : Eviseration/ lolrudra's
Possible upgrades:
Twashtar
WoTG (Moonshade earring?) with regain/acc
Shadow Gorget?
Final Gear Sets.
Final gear sets.
Should be using AF3+2 hat over Zelus as its putting you over haste cap and the +2 head will put you right at it.
Also, Twilight dagger will override any sambas you are using.
For WS, look into getting a Lokis and use Brutal over Hollow.
Also, Twilight dagger will override any sambas you are using.
For WS, look into getting a Lokis and use Brutal over Hollow.
Sylph.Kimble said:
Should be using AF3+2 hat over Zelus as its putting you over haste cap and the +2 head will put you right at it.
Also, Twilight dagger will override any sambas you are using.
Also, Twilight dagger will override any sambas you are using.
Well, the samba is still active on the main hand swing so twilight isnt a problem. Ill be subbing phurba mostly when soloing and twlight in party events. And i always thought you needed to be at 26% haste for true cap, and to be at 25% isnt. I could be wrong. Anyone able to help out with that. Thanks in advance.
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Cerberus.Vaness said:
Sylph.Kimble said:
Should be using AF3+2 hat over Zelus as its putting you over haste cap and the +2 head will put you right at it.
Also, Twilight dagger will override any sambas you are using.
Also, Twilight dagger will override any sambas you are using.
I do have the dex kila+2 but havent used that in a while.
26% is the true cap but going from 25% to 26% hate is only .39% increase and Accuracy +8 Attack +8 "Store TP" +7 and the extra 1% chance to do double damage while samba is up should outweight that.
Sylph.Kimble said:
Should be using AF3+2 hat over Zelus as its putting you over haste cap and the +2 head will put you right at it.
Also, Twilight dagger will override any sambas you are using.
For WS, look into getting a Lokis and use Brutal over Hollow.
Also, Twilight dagger will override any sambas you are using.
For WS, look into getting a Lokis and use Brutal over Hollow.
Does the crit+ on lokis make that big of a differance? Thought the DEX+12 and the flourish/skillchain bonus beat lokis out. But again i could be wrong.
And why the brutal on WS over the dex earring?
Sylph.Kimble said:
26% is the true cap but going from 25% to 26% hate is only .39% increase and Accuracy +8 Attack +8 "Store TP" +7 and the extra 1% chance to do double damage while samba is up should outweight that.
Good call. thanks
twilight is ok for haste samba, and i think af3+2 head requires dusk+1 to cap without body.
i'd probably use different earrings, not sure if thundersoul is better than rajas, loki's for ws. maybe atheling over nifty. love torque and anguinus might be better. i'd fulltime charis feather in abyssea.
i'd probably use different earrings, not sure if thundersoul is better than rajas, loki's for ws. maybe atheling over nifty. love torque and anguinus might be better. i'd fulltime charis feather in abyssea.
Caitsith.Brodiewan said:
Sylph.Kimble said:
Should be using AF3+2 hat over Zelus as its putting you over haste cap and the +2 head will put you right at it.
Also, Twilight dagger will override any sambas you are using.
For WS, look into getting a Lokis and use Brutal over Hollow.
Also, Twilight dagger will override any sambas you are using.
For WS, look into getting a Lokis and use Brutal over Hollow.
Does the crit+ on lokis make that big of a differance? Thought the DEX+12 and the flourish/skillchain bonus beat lokis out. But again i could be wrong.
And why the brutal on WS over the dex earring?
Lokis also has Dex+11 so you are basically comparing +1 dex to 5% crit damage.
5% DA should outweight +2 Dex. I mean, you are using Epona's over a dex ring.
5% DA should outweight +2 Dex. I mean, you are using Epona's over a dex ring.
Lokis will definitely beat AF3+2 for evis. The only reason to WS in AF3+2 is to force-crit Rudra's storm. I would also suggest using that charis feather in your TP build as well, the +crit damage will easily beat the +attk from black tathlum. Might also be better to WS in atheling over nifty, not 100% sure on that.
Sylph.Kimble said:
Lokis also has Dex+11 so you are basically comparing +1 dex to 5% crit damage.
5% DA should outweight +2 Dex. I mean, you are using Epona's over a dex ring.
5% DA should outweight +2 Dex. I mean, you are using Epona's over a dex ring.
Yeah good point. Ill make those changes and mess around with it (not like i do actual testing).
Now is the Moodshade earring worth getting for the regain/acc or att? or is brutal and suppa pretty much the best one can go with?
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Lokis will definitely beat AF3+2 for evis. The only reason to WS in AF3+2 is to force-crit Rudra's storm. I would also suggest using that charis feather in your TP build as well, the +crit damage will easily beat the +attk from black tathlum. Might also be better to WS in atheling over nifty, not 100% sure on that.
Thanks for the info.
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If you are using Striking Flourish then yes, use Af3+2 body over lokis, being seeing as how Striking has a 2 minute recast, use lokis when not using striking.
Thanks for your help to those you replied.
Af3+2 body doesn't add much to evisceration in terms of the striking flourish bonus. The AF3 body only adds a crit chance, which evisceration already has.
Ragnarok.Kogenta said:
Loki > af3 +2 when: you outside abyssea (oh hai) or have timer on striking flourish.
Well it's how I do it anyway.
Brutal earring question: It's because apparently you can double attack a ws, I personally never saw it but since every1 says it....
Cerberus.Vaness said:
Ragnarok.Kogenta said:
Loki > af3 +2 when: you outside abyssea (oh hai) or have timer on striking flourish.
Well it's how I do it anyway.
Brutal earring question: It's because apparently you can double attack a ws, I personally never saw it but since every1 says it....
Why do you use striking flourish for Evis? It add's a 50% crit chance or something on the first hit..
Should only really use that to force crit Rudras <_>
So Loki is pretty much allways better for Evis.
And crit atmas makes striking flourish on Evis even worse than it would be without them, etc.
And yes, weaponskills can DA.
Edit: Ok so the ability works a bit diffrent then I thought, but still probably not worth it.
Reverse flourish is probably a way better gain :p
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
If you used a single hit weaponskill and twilight knife yeah apparently it could quad attack. But I was wondering if a dex+4 earring would win for a ws already 2 hits away from the 8 hit cap. Is this futile das, you must be lurking
Unless you use Apoc atma, I'm pretty sure it'll allways win.
With Apoc on, I'm unsure tbh <_> But probably still a better gain.
Sylph.Kimble said:
Also, Twilight dagger will override any sambas you are using.
It will only override the samba proc in the hand it's in, ie Haste Samba will still have an effect, as long as it's paired with another weapon. Long as it doesnt have 100% wind damage or whatever
Again want to thank everyone! Very helpful info.
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
in b4 Ninian
I don't know anything about dnc, so I can't help directly, but since Ninian has yet to show up,
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/15518/ninians-dnc-guide/
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I like how people think Ninian is the only one who knows how to play dancer. Seems the rest of us answered the questions well.
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