Did I Do The Right Thing?

Ok here is the story and I would like your thoughts on if what I did.

Me and about 7 LS mates headed out to kill the last few Sobeks needed to finish a Emp weapon. Long and short we farm lights and time. Get over to at conflux 7 and there is a group fighting Sobek, So we split into and start farming Lizard pops and going to Pop the Bogart. Upon getting just in range to target the ??? a WAR and THF pop the NM and take it to a safe place. As we watch the THF hit points starts going down, down, down and he dies. takes less then 30 sec. Then the mob turns to the WAR and proceeds to do the same to him just as the WAR dies. The THF raises up.

The mob goes white we watch the THF not cast a shadows but simply hit the monster. The NM turned red, Then the WAR raises up, The NM hits the THF he dies, It goes white, the WAR hits it, it goes red then the THF raises back up (Apoc Atma) the NM hits the WAR he dies. It goes white. The THF hits it, it goes red. The war raises.

Needless to say this happened 5 or 6 times. And the NM was still at 80%+ and I provoked it. Yes I technically took the NM. When it turned white, it was pointless in my mind set to sit here for god knows how long and watch them try and Zombie this NM. After we had claim and they raised up. I tried to trade The THF a new pop item. He did not take my trade offer. All they said in saw was” That’s fine, well go get the LS we can hold Guk for the next 12 hours”. Then ran off.

So was I in the right or wrong?
((no names were used in this to protect those involved))

They wiped with no chance of recovery. I would have done the same as you.

Very, very right. For all reasons, but especially b/c it's a ***tier NM.

Edit: you should've gone and stolen Sobek just because.

You did the right thing. I could see if it was at some low percentage, but 80% screw that.

You tried to make it right by giving him a pop item, so no fault really.

His comment about holding guk for 12 hours, was he trying to redeem his e-peen or something or just being a ***?

tbh i woulda done it the second both of them died, I wouldnt even have bothered giving them the chance to raise multiple times :/ Unless you wanted some lulz out of it XD

as far as i could follow your story: thf and War failed. tried to zombie this nm without a healer.

have to ask: were those 2 the thf and the war in the party with the ones killing Sobek?
if so they are complete *** for monopolizing certain mob pops.

Would definitely have done the same thing as you did. To zombie a mob like that is a complete waste of everybody's time, pop item is easy to get and that particular nm isn't exactly hard to kill.

Maybe they were hoping you'd claim, proc red and that they'd get the KI?

Yeah this, as much as I abhor people "stealing" NMs, watching them do that at such a high percentage is just a waste of their time as much as yours.

Personally, I would've offered help before taking/killing the NM.

If they declined, you could've either taken it when they "wiped" again, called a GM explaining that they're taking a long time "killing" the NM (I've had people do this to me/my ls pre-abyssea on much more useless NM's) or wait it out.

If they accepted, would've (hopefully) been a win-win situation where you would've been able to either take it in turns to pop or they would've let you pop your remaining few and went off doing something else (I can't see this happening though).

I wouldn't say you were in the wrong, but I wouldn't say you were right in the way you did it (assuming that's the whole story)

no the ones killing Sobek were a diffrent group.

As harsh as it is and I'm sure there will be many rate dows on this but *** yes you did the right thing. Under no contitition should zombieing a NM to death while other groups are waiting be acceptable. If no one else was around then yeh zombie it all you want, if your going to kite or what ever meens of staying alive while people unweak thats cool too but just die hit die hit die hit die hit good god no >.>

Whats worse is that they would get all pissy over that nm, if it was sobek then maybe a bit of butt hurt would be understandable but if im reading right its the buggard? I'm pritty sure all nms rage and get stupid powerful after an hour anyways so doubt they will be holding guk for 12 hours and if they do they will probably just end up getting raged at by 1/3 of the abyssea shells on your server XD

waiting for a GM would of taken anywere from 30 mins to 3 hours. and by the time they would of contacted me. so we would of been in the same boat with 7 people watching a delevel fest and the rest of the story was we proced red on the NM, poped 4 more Bogarts, 4 lizards claimed the Pestie 2 times. poped sobek 2 times. got 3 skins and left. as for offering to help them fight something. its agenst my Lses policy to help compeating Ls's. sry if you cant kill it dont touch it.

I totally misread the OP XD I just had to re-read it after I saw this.

Disregard my last post >_> I probably wouldn't have given them more than 1~2 RR's before I took it.

I could understand zombieing a NM if it was at like 1-2%, any more then that (maybe max of ... let's say 10%) either just give it up, let it depop, or get some more people to help you kill it.

yes just the buggart NM, not sobek.

Oh wait... I misread that then, it was the buggard NM?


/facepalm


yeah i'd have took the NM after the first wipe, if they wipe to something that piss easy... they deserve to not have it.

So uh, just for the record, this is a bugard:


And this is a bogart:


I don't know what a buggard/buggart is though, sorry. I'm not trying to be rude, but the numerous misspellings are funny... and confusing. <.< BUGARD.

Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with what you did. You tried to repay them with a pop item, and they were wasting everyone's time. Nothing to stress over. I agree with those that suggested helping them kill their couple of pops, but if your LS is really against that.. Meh. Sucks for you when you get stuck waiting forever watching people solo mobs you need every other pop.

Oh no an extra 'g', let's crucify him!

Get over it, you know what they meant.


Bitching about spelling is stupid.

Grammar police on page 1... This thread will go to epic places for sure now :P I'm sorry for not knowing the correct spelling, I just know them as the big lizard things that tend to have an akwardly low defence. I also apologize for the lack of period after my :P, I'm just a *** that way.

Not only did you do the ~right Thing~ you did the most ethical option available. ***, 80% is probably 19% lower than anyone else would have let it get.

Zombieing minax bugard with no chance of recovery was foolish on their part, you did them a favour by taking it.

It would have been faster for them to just give it up, recover and try again after you finished.

Its not like you took it when they were still able to fight, they lost and were clutching at straws to hold it, wasting everyone's time.

sorry for the grammer and spelling errors. i used freaking spell check . stupid pc your supposed to be smart and make it so i makes words goodz no more porn for joo pc no more porn!


that will teach it. thanks for the comments. while we have been doing the emp weapons we have watched many a sobek go unclaimed and could of taken it, its not our way, the old days are over. now if it had been Sobek and he had started zombieing it i would have offered to let them lot the stones, cards, katana and polearm. we did that a few times for random soloers to speed up the process and even making sure we got them atmas if asked. 99% of the time people jsut wanted the katana or the +2 items they could care less about the skins. while we have done him so much for the LS the stones and cards are pileing up on mules.

p.s thanks again for the comments

You could have offered to help them somewhere between the third and forth death yo-yo or sat back and watched them while singing the hardcore classic "Zombies don't thrash" for another hour. Both would have been better.

Maybe they had help on the way. Maybe they like dieing. Maybe that's their style of fighting. Who are we to judge them?

Stealing is wrong and it's your guilty conscience that led you to post. All the agreement in the world isn't going to cleanse your soul.

Travel at once to the cathedral in North Sandy and throw yourself at the mercy of Altana and beg her for her forgiveness. Once you have prayed for forgiveness, you must travel to windurst, and there you must find a noob, a REAL noob, someone that has never played before and you will pl them all day and then at the end of the day give them 100k gil.

Only then will your soul be cleansed enough for Altana to look favorably upon you once again.

Amen

I'm against stealing NMs from people, but this would be an exception that I'd be okay with. You could have helped them, but I don't view that as your, or anyone else's responsibility.

Maybe I'm just jaded by bad experiences, but teaming up with random people has a way of biting you in the *** one way or another.

Since I'm basically going against my character by being okay with stealing someone else's NM I have to redefine my own guideline.. That would be, bring enough people, the right jobs and everything else that is required to kill the NM, don't expect anyone to just stand around while you make a foolish attempt at killing it.

Also, if I was in their situation, having people waiting around, being unable to kill it to begin with, after a few deaths I would just offer the NM up, I've done it before.

You should use bots.