Blm Gear Outside Abyssea

Well a surefire way that i use, your convert set whether it zenith or w/e. Use that, switch back into nuking gear. Then just hit "Y" or "+" twice, go up and deactivate the HP Boost buff, it reactivates itself after about a second but you still drop the HP.

Sometimes it's just enough to drop the buff and not even use convert set.

Personally i like to keep my HP yellow just so i know, as not many people are 100% on whether the buff counts or not.

Works for me ^^)

Like I said:

Idle Hp outside: 972
Nuking HP is is 975
HP down set leaves me at: 725

In abyssea with hp buffs: 1755 HP
HP down set: 1305
HP to activate sorc: 1316

The exact same gear, same sc xml, everything, drops my hp by 250 outside, and 450 inside. Both leave me in yellow, and at 74% WITHOUT cancelling hp buff. It is scaling the HP bonus based on your base hp. Those inside numbers are in abyssea Konschtat, so no dominion/etc buffs.

The cruor buff is applied LAST, so if your base HP is 75%, your cruor HP is 75%.

This makes more sense than a lot of other posts I've read, and solves my problem. My assumption was any piece of gear that swaps out 50 HP for MP would be taking 50 HP off your fully buffed total, and giving 50 MP to your fully buffed MP total. I'm over here trying to do the math in my head going "how the hell do you swap out 700+ HP without getting your face punched in..."

Thanks

Ok just tested it. Including merits I have base 975 hp blm/rdm

I proc at between 740-745

In mis right now my base hp is 1755. I still proc at between 740-745. Which means the cruor is counted at all for sorc ring. You need to be at the same actual hp as you would to activate outside. Not the same percentage not the same amount lower than your now max

Idk where you got your supposedly active info but I did multiple nukes ranging all the way down with only sorc ring on and sc off to make sure nothing interfered on the same mob. So maybe you need to stop spreading misinformation

As far as equip -hp then cancelling... it's kinda awkward for sc to do that

As far as the part about cruor applying last is true.

Like equipping the -235 needed to proc outside dropped me 432. Ie 1.8 times as much which is how much hp was boosted.

So I should only need -564 instead of like 1k in gear to proc... at least in that zone. But this will vary by zone and abyssite of merits and dominion/bastion

Yes, i'm sure >< . Ive gone over this countless times with many people and they just dont seem to wrap their head around the fact that the cruor buff doesnt affect it. I could post pics if necessary buy you should really just go out there and ceck if you dont believe me.

well i tested this when abyssea first came out and my ring didnt work <.<
dasva tested it yesterday and it didnt work for him either so it doesnt look like they changed anything >:
thanks das btw ^_^

according to wiki (yes i know lolwiki)


so i dont know.. i still question if you ever really tested nuking with/without the ring to see if its still working, or if you just look at your yellow hp/75% and assume it does @.@

Yes the cruor buff doesn't effect it. At all. You have to have the same hp amount to proc wether or not you have cruor buff. From yesterday I can garuntee you aren't proccing with no 1300 or whatever hp you said you were

Guess I'll fraps it and post it. ill post the link later.

Sure go ahead and frap. Wont change the fact that with 1700 hp I wasn't active at 745 hp and was active at 740 going up and down several times. The exact same amounts as it was for outside of abyssea

I suggest you rethink how you "test" it first

Wow, I guess you are right. I must have had some kind of af3 Proc when I tested. I converted so that I would have less than the outside threshold and it did activate. That's what I get for only nuking once to see if the dmg increased. GDI.

Time to edit my sc then. Use normal HP down rules outside, and only equip sorc ring under threshold HP inside.

FWIW, Nukes without soc were 5571. Nukes with sorc active were 5776. Nuked 4 mobs each way this time to ignore af3 procs. Did have an af3 proc for 5837 with HP buff on, likely what threw me off the 1st time too.

Yeah that's why I did it naked. Elimates any other possibility include sc just being lame and not equipping right. I just don't get hp nuke most the time anymore. Interesting note without hp buff I lose 80% more emnity from dmg taken :)

BTW, anyone else find it funny that we can one shot VTs? lol

Too bad you dont get lights if you one shot a mob, need to sleep/bind it first ; ;