Ukko's Fury Setup

No, not really. The problem is, if you depend on that slot for stp then you won't be able to easily swap in AF3+2 hands for the Restraint bonus so Avant +1 or Phorcys should be used.

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What about Huginn Hose for UF?

I've been wondering if Drachenhorn is worth the extra attack over Mekira +1, i know it does wonders for upheaval but don't know if 75-100 attack will be better than 4 STR.
Also is the extra DEX noticeable or really not?

A few questions:
What body piece for Ukko's in Nyzul? No Phorcys yet, I'm guessing Grim or Zahaks?
WS gorget vs. Rancor Collar? I think WS gorget + Rancor back is best? haven't been able to get backpiece yet

You will love Rancor back and gorget combo!

Drachenhorn isn't getting you 75-100 Attack. If it was, it would probably be better than 4 STR in most situations. Stick with Mekira, I think. It might be marginally worse on days when the bonus doesn't kick in, but it's much better on days when the bonus does kick in.

Because Drachenhorn is a percentage based buff, it applies to your attack before other percentage based buffs. So in high buff situations (Berserk, lucky Chaos Roll, Stalwart's Tonic, Warcry = ~+100% attack, another +5% is only actually +2.5%. Food doesn't count towards your pre-% buff base), you aren't getting as much out of it as in low buff situations (+5% attack). Furthermore, because Mekira affects base attack (before percentage based buffs), it can actually end up giving you more attack than Drachenhorn in high buff situations. It would give +64 instead of +32 with the above buffs, so you'd need 1280 attack before percentage based buffs (including food) to balance it out. I'd just stick with Mekira +1.

At what point do the augments on Heca hands+1 start becoming gewd for instances where I have Bloodrage/champions drink/atmas on, for Ukko's fury? I saw them on Kaerin's sets, but unsure as to what point they actually start going better, otherwise just gonna use them when I get the highest crit aug :<

Only when you have 4% i think

Heca hands+1 pull ahead of Phorcys hands when you have any amount of Crit rate over the lowest possible with this set:


If for instance you dont have AF2+2 pants and are using Heca+1 pants instead, Heca+1 hands become better. If you gain any amount of crit rate from DEX, or a temp item, or warcry or anything else. Even if youre just bad at WSing at the right time and constantly have 130+ TP, heca+1 hands start to win.

Also: All you need on Heca+1 is crit damage 4. If you can get ACC and Crit damage 4, thats awesome.

*nods*, Thanks. :)

Sooooo my Ukko's set is identical to the one above with the exception of Relic legs+2. I have avant+1 and Heca+1 with 4 crit rate...is there a clear winner between the two? Without Atma/cite or temp items, does Heca legs+1 come out on top for the crit rate?

I *THINK* you should use avant+1, and then heca +1 legs for when you're in abyssea, using RR/SS/Apoc. Or use it if you're aiming for the Ddex set that Kaerin posted at page... 67~?

Ultimately, this is what you should aim for. My set is identical to this one minus the Moonshade.

Mkays, time to get those legs. Kicking myself for all the times I dropped them.

Except Heca hands+1 are generally better, because in pretty much every event thats out your crit rate is enhanced somehow.

And you'll need thunder belt and ogiers pants for Legion/hard voidwatch mobs.

And Mekira hat+1 for when the ws damage boost is active or you gain stuff from the attack, and do not need the ACC on AF3+2/


Avant+1 are better than AF2+2 legs if you gain full benefit from the attack, but that doesnt actually happen right now, since if you need the attack you also need the ACC on Ogiers and will be using those anyway. My suggestion to you is to sell the Avant+1, and just use Heca+1 while you work on acquiring AF2+2. Also, get Ogiers.


I dropped like 6 pairs while playing FFXI over the years, lol.

Yep..lol, I have Ogier's for ACC set but need um...Heca Hands +1 Aby/Anywhere I have Potency effect...which is like most events cept NNI but even then you can get it. Thanks for ze info.

I just got my Armadaberk. :D Is it already better to use than emp body+2? Or is there a certain point with stp/DA that I should reach before it'll be better?

Take the first 3 DA augment you get, which shouldnt be hard, and use tyrants ring with it, then augment it til you get stp and da3 and switch to mars.

I usually use my WAR for Nyzul, working on phorcys set
What should I work on next? WoTG earring I guess? Is Grim better than Zahak's? I'm kinda cheap for new STR earrings, but I'll grab them eventually.


Haidate has 2crit dmg.

Grim is better. Pyrosoul x2. Ravager's earring, Warrior's Cuisses +2. Also, page 71 you illiterate mother****er.

The answer is always "scroll up"

If you honestly use a Ruby Ring, do us all a favor and drop your Ukon. Thanks.

Use ravager's earring for tp, over that green one. Grim if no phorcy's Avant +1 if you don't need acc. Ogier's for acc. STR earring is only good when you WS at 300tp, other than that use Ghillie till tp bonus. Also claymore grip is better.

So did the numbers again and seems I messed up. heca hands and legs combo win over Ogiers/avant by a mere 30 or so damage but must have pretty much perfect augments. Think since i'm lazy and that can quickly get expensive i'll stick to my phorcys advant combo.

SO MUCH ANGER!!! RAWRS!!!



Im not quite sure whats going on here or what you're saying. Maybe I'm tireds.

Angry kitty rawr

I'm sure this has been asked before but I can't find it. The general consensus is that pyrosoul>strigoi?

I had some Acc issues in Legion last night (Hall of Im, first run on WAR) so I switched to this set just using stuff I had on me:


and still only parsed 91% Hit Rate. We weren't getting Feint or Madrigal or anything, but that can't be the optimal high-Acc set. I don't have Armadaberk nor do I have any clear way to obtain one. Short of something like Ziel Pendant + Rancorous Mantle, are there any obvious changes I could make to that set for Legion to squeeze a little more Acc out?