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 Ragnarok.Anye
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2012-04-15 00:38:44
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Hi, when I say drop it, I mean drop it.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-04-15 00:39:15
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All MNK sets involving Thaumas are mine then too.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-04-15 00:42:18
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-04-15 00:44:02
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Not needed Mitosis.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-04-15 00:44:10
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Ragnarok.Anye said: »
Hi, when I say drop it, I mean drop it.
Needz more:
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Chill
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-04-15 00:46:11
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Not needed Generic.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-04-15 00:46:15
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Hey, let's keep trying to get a useful ffxi information thread locked with random *** from people. GREAT IDEA.
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2012-04-15 00:51:08
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Back to the discussion, guys. New page, new start.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-04-15 00:53:10
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Ragnarok.Chronosphere said: »
Since no one cares about Ukko's anymore, I thought I'd share my Shattersoul set

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edit: I added trademark/copyright symbols to my sets since they are mine and not yours
Just gotta say, since shattersoul is int modded, there are definitally some improvements to be made in that set.
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2012-04-15 00:53:50
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:x I changed the title back--it was a joke, really. :(


Ragnarok.Anye said: »
Back to the discussion, guys. New page, new start.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-04-15 02:03:05
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What Anye said:

What I imagined:
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By Ragnarok.Ejiin 2012-04-15 02:41:20
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Kaerin said: »

High-Mid-level: This also functions as your +ACC set:


Best:

The Valk set is at BEST 1.3% better than the Armada set, and that's assuming Valk with your amazing augments versus a plain DA3 STP5/6 Armada. The advantage goes as low as 0.14% on very weak fodder mobs.

Realistically, most people won't be getting +10 Acc augment on their Valks, which really hurts it on higher end content. The second you become uncapped Acc, which is happening more and more with events, such as newer VW and Legion, the Valk set takes a nosedive, making the Aramda set the "best" set for a majority of people on higher end content.

That being said, I'm personally still going for a Valk for the situations it is the best, but I fully realize it's at best a side grade that will cost 10s of millions.
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By Kaerin 2012-04-15 02:57:51
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Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
That being said, I'm personally still going for a Valk for the situations it is the best, but I fully realize it's at best a side grade that will cost 10s of millions.

Maybe you'll get lucky and it will be cheap! I paid 25 mil for mine and server jumped a mule to buy it. But I also loaded that mule up with gear that cost me 4~ mil each and sold it where I jumped to for 6m-9m each. Ended up profiting 18m on the whole deal lol.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-04-15 03:30:22
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Difference on fodder mobs becomes even more slight if Fulad is viable. Then again, with the current status of legion it's probably more difficult to obtain than Valkyrie's.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-15 14:30:54
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So I'm at a point where Phorcy Salade is viable but can't figure out what ring to use in tandem with it. The set is almost the Armadaberk set up above 3 posts, but I don't have the HQ or Phos. Looking at that set, it looks like Mars ring is the common choice but I'm wondering if there are any other alternatives.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-04-15 14:45:00
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Not particularly, after Tyrant/Mars's you're looking at stuff like Excelsis/Keen etc., which are clearly inferior. Not sure how it is on your server but Mars's rings are fairly cheap at least on mine (as long as you're not buying one blatantly overpriced).

Although after checking ffxiah my server has a lot more in bazaars listed than yours does...
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-15 14:50:01
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I'm not really worried about the cost. I've just never been a fan of Mars ring, as its like the best worst ring. Guess I'll grab a Mars, but I'll keep an eye out for any other responses.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2012-04-15 15:10:35
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Oneiros if you have MP merits. Mars's has always been a good ring for War, not sure how you'd ever consider it the 'best worst'. You sure as heck aren't evading on War.
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2012-04-15 16:00:31
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Eh, you could use Phasmida and Blitz ring instead of Phos/Bullwhip and Mars. 2 less accuracy 8 less attack and for 14 evasion on WAR seems well, stupid. I can almost kinda sorta understand if you feel the HP on Bullwhip is worth it if that's what you're using instead of Phos.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-04-15 16:50:27
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Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said: »
Oneiros if you have MP merits. Mars's has always been a good ring for War, not sure how you'd ever consider it the 'best worst'. You sure as heck aren't evading on War.
This X1000!!! WAR is suppose to hit AND be it. It is the nature of the job!!
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By Leviathan.Haberym 2012-04-15 21:33:21
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Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
Kaerin said: »

High-Mid-level: This also functions as your +ACC set:


Best:

Ejiin's wall-o-text

How do these sets compare the the ideal Fazheluo set with Restraint down?
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-04-15 21:56:17
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Better, difference is pretty slight (Armada build is even closer, but still better).
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-16 00:20:39
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Asura.Leonlionheart said: »
Eh, you could use Phasmida and Blitz ring instead of Phos/Bullwhip and Mars. 2 less accuracy 8 less attack and for 14 evasion on WAR seems well, stupid. I can almost kinda sorta understand if you feel the HP on Bullwhip is worth it if that's what you're using instead of Phos.
I'm not comfortable with the losses on Bullwhip, but I'm not gonna shell out the gil for Phos either, so for now it'd be under the assumption that I'd be using Bullwhip. I don't have Phasmida anyway, got my Mekira first, and I don't really feel like doing Kaggen again.
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2012-04-16 02:30:49
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Asura.Leonlionheart said: »
Eh, you could use Phasmida and Blitz ring instead of Phos/Bullwhip and Mars. 2 less accuracy 8 less attack and for 14 evasion on WAR seems well, stupid. I can almost kinda sorta understand if you feel the HP on Bullwhip is worth it if that's what you're using instead of Phos.
I'm not comfortable with the losses on Bullwhip, but I'm not gonna shell out the gil for Phos either, so for now it'd be under the assumption that I'd be using Bullwhip. I don't have Phasmida anyway, got my Mekira first, and I don't really feel like doing Kaggen again.

Ninurta, Speed, Sonic, Velocity belts are the only other options then if you want that. Additionally you could sacrifice the hands slot for Perle, Dusk+1, or Brego and use whatever belt you want.

Or, if you have 3 Atmacites and only play WAR in VW, Atmacite of Latitude is a good addition to Discipline/Coercion. It comes with 3% Haste and 50 TP bonus (which is quite welcome on Ukko's Fury or Upheaval). Gives a lot of wiggle room in TP sets. Atmacite of the Valiant also works and might even be better at level 15, but I feel 50 TP bonus at level 10 Latitude is a better use of cruor if you're hard pressed for it.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbathboy 2012-04-16 12:41:44
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Asura.Leonlionheart said: »
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Asura.Leonlionheart said: »
Eh, you could use Phasmida and Blitz ring instead of Phos/Bullwhip and Mars. 2 less accuracy 8 less attack and for 14 evasion on WAR seems well, stupid. I can almost kinda sorta understand if you feel the HP on Bullwhip is worth it if that's what you're using instead of Phos.
I'm not comfortable with the losses on Bullwhip, but I'm not gonna shell out the gil for Phos either, so for now it'd be under the assumption that I'd be using Bullwhip. I don't have Phasmida anyway, got my Mekira first, and I don't really feel like doing Kaggen again.
Ninurta, Speed, Sonic, Velocity belts are the only other options then if you want that. Additionally you could sacrifice the hands slot for Perle, Dusk+1, or Brego and use whatever belt you want. Or, if you have 3 Atmacites and only play WAR in VW, Atmacite of Latitude is a good addition to Discipline/Coercion. It comes with 3% Haste and 50 TP bonus (which is quite welcome on Ukko's Fury or Upheaval). Gives a lot of wiggle room in TP sets. Atmacite of the Valiant also works and might even be better at level 15, but I feel 50 TP bonus at level 10 Latitude is a better use of cruor if you're hard pressed for it.
I have never even consider the Atmacite for haste. I am a little uncomforable about the negitive stats on Bull. Thank you for the idea.
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By Kaerin 2012-04-17 18:38:51
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Whats with all the hating on Phos belt? If you can afford armada or valk, and tatters to augment them, how can you not afford a 3-4m belt, a 500k cloth and a 20k skin? Am I missing something and speed belts and stuff are super stupid expensive on every server other than Odin or what?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-04-17 18:49:09
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Its not even available on Shiva.

Hi Anye!
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By Leviathan.Haberym 2012-04-17 19:24:30
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Kaerin said: »
Whats with all the hating on Phos belt? If you can afford armada or valk, and tatters to augment them, how can you not afford a 3-4m belt, a 500k cloth and a 20k skin? Am I missing something and speed belts and stuff are super stupid expensive on every server other than Odin or what?

Speeds are going for 6-8m here after update.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-17 19:26:01
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As much as I'd like a Phos belt, it's just not worth the investment right now.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-04-17 19:27:40
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4mil+ for 75 HP... eh. Effort/reward ratio applies here, especially if you're not on a lot.
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