Ukko's Fury Setup

To expand on Eneas' questions:
tp bonus moonshade > Str earring? Or not?

To answer your question about belts, I think the elemental belts are the best option.

In abby you should be close to, if not capping crit rate w/ atmas and gear and the 30% base on the first hit.. so in abby I don't think the earring is that great. Outside, well I don't know that we have enough info on how steep the crit rate curve is w/ TP to know really. I do not believe that any TP bonus applies to what level of aftermath you get, so that shouldn't be considered.

thanks for the reply, it seems like the blitz vs tyrants ring debate is still being hashed out..I'll stick with blitz for now, tyrants is still 2m.

It's been mentioned several times before but once again...

If you're not proc *** switch go RR/SS/Apoc, otherwise switch out SS for VV.

Outside maybe on old content and some dynamis mobs would I bother with ddex set, otherwise if accuracy is fine stick to Str/Attack/DA.

Emp head+2 beats Twilight Helm. If no accuracy issues (you shouldn't inside abyssea) Grim beats Twilight Mail. Heafoc/Crit damage N hands beats Ravager's +2 inside. Use rancor collar if Crit rate isn't capped, otherwise use elegorget. Use Atheling outside over Fortis.

Few quick notes on this also:
Atheling beats fortis
Thunder/breeze/light gorget beats ravager's gorget
ravager head +2 beats twilight like Neisan said
grim beats twilight body
pyrosoul beats spiral... but obvious statement is obvious
haefoc beats ravager hands +2
claymore grip beats brave... unless you are capped crit rate which it doesn't look like it depending on atmas used inside abyssea

Damn you Neisan you ninja edited almost all of my advise.

Swap out Twilight for Af3+2 head, Blood rage -> Mekira-oto/+1
Swap out Ravager Gorget for Rancor Collar, Blood rage -> ele.gorget
Swap out Twilight body for Grim/+1
Swap out waist for ele.waist
Swap out af3+2 hands for Heca+1(+4%crit dmg aug)
Swap out af3+2 legs for Heca+1(+4% crit rate)*, Blood rage ->AF3+2
Swap out brave grip for claymore

SWAP OUT VV FOR APOC PLEASE.



*can also use the augmented pants with crit/wsdmg.

**Probably a repeat of the last 2 posts but youll be sure theres no conflicting info now.

OK thanks for the replies. So according to you guys(and with what i can get within a couple of weeks), inside i should have this:

with RR/SS/apoc
I messed up my item set (was playing around at 3 AM please forgive me), since i have Rancor collar already, and the fortis manlte shouldnt have been there in the other set lol.
I am trying Ein to get heca legs and i have abj to make heca hands, i need to make some money tho for the pyrosoul ring/grimcuirass, plus farming another abj for augments.

But i have still a question about grim body (lol maybe i'm thick): why is that att+30 worth losing 15 dex and 25 acc? when thwilight set is good? (feel like i went through all that trouble with shynryu for nothing now lol).

Also, i dont even know how to start up spell cast let alone program scripts (thats why i try to stick to 1 ws set and one tp set), can anyone point me to a spellcast for dummies kind of guide pls?

Also, shall this same set both inside and outside? if not is the set i was thinking for outside any good? anything to change?

Eneas, il motivo x cui la Grim risulta migliore rispetto a Twilight in Abyssea sta nel fatto che con RR sei gia' al massimo dell'accuratezza e del crit rate determinato dalla DEX (il cosiddetto dDEX).

Fatta eccezione per quando hai Berserk attivo, situazione in cui Zahak mail risulta migliore rispetto a Grim, non avrai sempre l'attacco "cappato", per cui Grim > Twilight.

Fuori da Abyssea la tua DEX dovrebbe essere sufficientemente elevata da cappare o quasi la tua dDEX (almeno per i vecchi eventi, per VW serviranno probabilmente Twilight Body, Pipilaka e vicisimili), per cui gli stessi set dovrebbero andare bene, specialmente se riesci a ottenere Heca hands, legs & Co.

I assumed that dex/acc would still be a problem in some situations even inside abyssea, but maybe i misread.

just trying to get things straighten up for my warrior.I have been hoarding a bunch of gear and try to figure out the optimal sets for inside/outside since i am all over the place lol.

Warrior isn't my main hence the Ukon-1 and I normally am RNG only, but these are the sets I'm looking at for when I get these last 6 coins and get to use WAR. Reading back some I think I'm alright, but any adjustments are welcome.


Swap in AF3+2 hands for Restraint

For WS swap Mekira-Oto and AF3+2 legs for Blood Rage. Hands with 4%, legs with 3%; working on getting 4%

ok thanks Sheelay :D

For WS swap Mekira-Oto and AF3+2 legs for Blood Rage. Hands with 4%, legs with 3%; working on getting 4%
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Mask+2 still wins over Mekira-Oto+1 with blood rage up.
With berserk up, use Zahak's mail over grim if you don't have a rancor collar. With a rancor collar, you'll be at 99% crit rate inside abyssea with those N.legs and grim should win.

What are people's thoughts on Hachiryu Haramaki outside abyssea for Ukko's? And for that matter, how about inside as well?

I looked through the whole thread and it wasn't mentioned at all.

I think mostly because other (easier/cheaper) options are almost always superior.

On a related note, what do people think of these sets for Ukkos:

Inside Abyssea

TA+3, acc+8, zanshin+5 on the body. Crit damage+ on hands.

Outside Abyssea

Focus more on dDex. +Crit damage on legs/hands. Stp+6, DA+3 on body.

Have spellcast condition for AF3+2 hands and Armada body use while blinded.

Uncertain what best WS legs/body would be when using mighty strikes or even blood rage. Since don't need dDex from Haidate, but would lose the 4% crit damage..

Can't use Kemas Earring.

Should be ravagers anyways, unless someone has another suggestion?

Any other comments?

TP Bonus Moonshade with the obvious caveat that I don't know if you augmented it differently, or potentially Centaurus if cRatio uncapped but not sure what your base attack looks like. DA is pretty devalued when you're looking at a 2 fTP, 2-hit WS and a decent base DA rate.

EDIT: Or Vulcan's like Serj mentioned instead of Centaurus, I forget about the stat+4 earrings a lot.

Vulcan's Pearl or Moonshade earring will be the best for ws iirc.

Don't focus on ddex outside either. More than likely you're far off the sweet spot and are gimping your output.

I think all of this has been covered tbh. I don't know why people keep bumping this thread.

27 pages is a lot to skim through for most people. If someone had a post on the first page they could edit with relevant information, however...

Pretty much what Leon said. Not only are there 27 pages of info, there's 27 pages of largely different/conflicting info.

Do we have any evidence to back up not trying to cap dDex outside Abyssea? I assumed braver's drink + the dDex build I listed would put me around 140-150 dex. No idea what various VWNM stats are however.

If the answer is positively no (with evidence), what body/legs based on buffs/situations? (Between Armada, Augmented Valk, Grim+1, Twilight) and (AF3+2 legs, Crit+ augmented Heca+1).

Also, I've already augmented Moonshade, so that's out. So I guess I'll pick up a vulcan earring.

I don't remember the exact data but Sawtelle parsed a fairly low critrate (<10%) fulltiming something like 170 DEX vs the T1 Mandragora.

Well not sure T1 Mandragora would be a good choice, since it's a mnk type mob and may have some stupid +VIT/DEX to it.

There's also the crit+4% damage on Byakko legs, and 12 more acc on Armada body (over augmented valk).

The question I never really got answered whenever looking into crit rate is the exact relationship between dex and crit rate. I know it's not linear, but the current school of thought is "cap dDex or don't worry about dex".

Just looking for more robust tests.

5 digit sample sizes, 5 digit sample sizes everywhere.

Testing starts a few pages in and covers quite a few data points. Distilled info is on BGwiki.

Thanx for the link. Guess it's AF3+2 legs for WS. Body I guess changes based on buffs.

Greeting fellow Warriors!

tryin to update my gear to the latest Warrior fads so here I am!

TP:

Recently changed back to my Ravagers Gorget over Rancor because I found myself dieing more then I would like at Voidwatch lol...

Adaberk Augmented with +5 STP and +1 DA



WS:

Grim +1 for Zerk down WS..



Ok so a few questions I have for y'all if you don't mind :3

at what point does Hecta Subligar +1 augmented with lol+2 crit hit come into play for Ukko's if it does at all..

Heafoc mitts, Mekira-oto +1 and Hecat feet +1 with +4 STR augment for when Blood Rage is up.. I was reading a few posts up that +2 head still beats out Mekira-oto +1 (sucks I was just starting to like that hat xD) annnnyway any tips or suggestions would be appreciated :3

Not saying it's definitely better, but Faz Hat +1 & Radiant Mail with Tyrant Ring is probably better in VW, if you're not getting marches or anything.

I've outparsed a few others using that set over their +2/zelus/blitz or zelus/armada/blitz, but it's VW so procs and deaths and that type of thing have a huge pull on parses.

I'd say during restraint down, Faz Hat+1/R. Mail/Perle hands/Tyrant ring is probably the clear winner (I've been close to, or capping accuracy with stalwarts, only dipping low with kaggen's debuffs).

Edit: For WS, that's basically what I've seen to be the best. Get TP Bonus moonshade, like previously stated on this page.

Yeah I was interested in trying out the Faz +1 and R.mail but I'm 0/20+ on that damn body lol.. oh also I forgot to mention I have +2% WSDmg and +2 Crit Hit rate on my legs

do your wotg quest already ya lazy sob!

offer still stands remember!

on a more on topic note

on a restraint up set, do i lose 6-hit if you swapped out tyrants ring for blitz to cap out gear haste and use hagnia stone instead of ravagers orb for TP?

also, is TP bonus moonshade best for ws? currently running a regain earring but that can be swapped whenever.