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Ukko's Fury Setup
Cerberus.Hiryo
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By Cerberus.Hiryo 2011-07-11 16:34:15
Yeah Claymore is what i use, pole is on a couple of sets from old WAR sets lol
Not worth bothering with a Restraint down set then I take it?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2011-07-11 17:57:25
As long as attack uncapped/accuracy capped I'd use it, unless you're having inventory issues.
Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-07-11 19:14:11
If you had a Strigoi to replace the blitz with, sure, but for a Keen ring I'm kind of meh on it.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2011-07-11 19:43:46
Strigoi only offers 1 fstr over keen. You would see basically the same return with either assuming nothing else changed. Is it worth it? For someone saying he is going to fulltime RCBs+1 I would think so. could go all out and use this restraint down set(I think current top) which increases attack by 27+6ga skill.
Edit: could use strigoi or onierw/e with the latent TA also.
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Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-07-11 20:00:52
that's actually quite good...
By macsdf1 2011-07-11 20:39:29
How come no one uses fazuelo helm + radiant mail in tp setups? 8% haste and 5% dbl attack seems better, just take an accuracy hit is all, but you gain more attack and str.
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By Valefor.Kungg 2011-07-11 20:57:24
Hmm.. any idea where I can improve my TP and Ukko's sets? with the maint I have been seeing a few different sets that are quite different then mine o.o.. time to update some sets any tips are welcomed!
TP:
WS:
Grim body +1 when Zerk is down / legs augmented with +2 WS Dmg and +2 Crit..
Quetzalcoatl.Neisan
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By Quetzalcoatl.Neisan 2011-07-11 20:59:30
macsdf1 said: How come no one uses fazuelo helm + radiant mail in tp setups? 8% haste and 5% dbl attack seems better, just take an accuracy hit is all, but you gain more attack and str.
Well, as far as my server is concerned, unless you find someone to synth it for you neither exist.
Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-07-11 20:59:55
Are you subbing nin or something? thats a lot of stp
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2011-07-11 21:00:19
macsdf1 said: How come no one uses fazuelo helm + radiant mail in tp setups? 8% haste and 5% dbl attack seems better, just take an accuracy hit is all, but you gain more attack and str.
People like the Set proc from war (Using 4/5 AF3+2) Or the stats on Armada Hauberk's augments.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2011-07-11 21:04:52
macsdf1 said: How come no one uses fazuelo helm + radiant mail in tp setups? 8% haste and 5% dbl attack seems better, just take an accuracy hit is all, but you gain more attack and str.
Last I checked it was because 1) both pieces rather rare 2)the sphere effect doesn't apply to the wearer so you need to pick up storetp elsewhere. 3) who wants to run around looking like they are wearing a pheasant on their head.
@kungg You are wearing a 6 hit so the white tath/hoard/rose strap are doing nothing for you. replace with ravager's ord/blitz/claymore respectively. Beyond that shoot for getting an augmented E body and it would be good. WS set is close enough for rock and roll.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-07-11 21:07:09
Odin.Sawtelle said: the sphere effect doesn't apply to the wearer so you need to pick up storetp elsewhere ^
Also the fact that the ensphere bodies more or less don't exist.
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By macsdf1 2011-07-11 21:10:57
If you had one, would use you use it? I get enough stp with a hoard ring on. Only got a nq hat, so sitting at 24% haste. Alignment was perfect when I crafted it, it just didn't HQ.
And I like the Lubu look! Looks different than your run of the mill warrior anyhow.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2011-07-11 21:19:22
I would probably use moonshade regain earring(I think covers the loss) instead of hoard. Faz helm/mail likely would beat standard zelus/e body build.
By macsdf1 2011-07-11 21:22:25
Yeah I'm super lazy when it comes to quests, haven't done any wotg at all yet. Can prob 3box it all sometime. Even too lazy to get my whm recall scrolls hehe.
Valefor.Corvin
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By Valefor.Corvin 2011-07-12 00:23:53
Does Bellicus Cuissed with ws damgage and crit hit rate beat out byakko haidate with 4 crit damage when berserk is up?
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2011-07-12 00:30:57
Unless the byakko's are doing a lot for your crit rate, Belli should be better outside. Inside belli hands down.
By Nabis 2011-07-12 13:08:47
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2011-07-14 15:03:01
Easier to just ask then look through all the posts, but Bellicus(ws dmg+2%) vs Bellicus(Crit rate+3%) vs Byakko's(Crit dmg+3%)? inside and out~ thinking crit rate Belli, but I'm no math person, so thanks in advance :D
By Entourage 2011-07-14 22:07:47
Asura.Kaisuko said: Easier to just ask then look through all the posts, but Bellicus(ws dmg+2%) vs Bellicus(Crit rate+3%) vs Byakko's(Crit dmg+3%)? inside and out~ thinking crit rate Belli, but I'm no math person, so thanks in advance :D
D) Ravager's Cuisses +2
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By Asura.Kaisuko 2011-07-14 22:22:51
Entourage said: Asura.Kaisuko said: Easier to just ask then look through all the posts, but Bellicus(ws dmg+2%) vs Bellicus(Crit rate+3%) vs Byakko's(Crit dmg+3%)? inside and out~ thinking crit rate Belli, but I'm no math person, so thanks in advance :D
D) Ravager's Cuisses +2
Well what about with berserk up/down RCB etc, just saying "Ravager's Cuisses +2" is almost no help lol
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2011-07-14 22:49:50
inside I would think the critrate+3 Bellicus might pull ahead with capped attack, outside crit rate bellicus on hard things like vwnms, and byakko's on standard things(IE: einherjar mobs/dynamis currency farming fodder)
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-07-15 00:28:30
Asura.Kaisuko said: just saying "Ravager's Cuisses +2" is almost no help lol
Ironically it's kinda similar to not saying what buffs you have.
By Entourage 2011-07-15 00:38:04
I really doubt it depends on buffs, even with 999 attack, I'd take 5% DA over only 3% crit rate and miniscule STR. I toss all bellicus not 2/2 or 3/2 for that very reason (crossing fingers.. 0/~700).
Augmented Byakko's idk... I'm not a fan of them in any situation. Not for WAR.
Valefor.Leith
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By Valefor.Leith 2011-07-20 13:45:32
has anyone tested +2 legs vs Calmecac Subligar? bought one when it came out in anticipation for an Ukko's piece but if its not worth it ill sell back before price drops lol
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-07-20 14:00:38
Entourage, I think at that point, the 5% DA is diminishing returns for sure with all the other DA pieces/trait/merits war gets, no? That could be why augmented Bellicus are better even with 2 crit 2 WS dmg.
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By Bahamut.Danthebk 2011-07-20 14:01:43
Entourage said: I really doubt it depends on buffs, even with 999 attack, I'd take 5% DA over only 3% crit rate and miniscule STR. I toss all bellicus not 2/2 or 3/2 for that very reason (crossing fingers.. 0/~700). Augmented Byakko's idk... I'm not a fan of them in any situation. Not for WAR.
Except for outside of abyssea using Ukkos with high attack (berserk and/or rcb) where a ddex ws set pulls ahead.
Valefor.Leith
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By Valefor.Leith 2011-07-20 15:22:11
Valefor.Leith said: has anyone tested +2 legs vs Calmecac Subligar? bought one when it came out in anticipation for an Ukko's piece but if its not worth it ill sell back before price drops lol
Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-07-20 15:25:55
+2 is better. sell the subligar.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-07-20 18:38:36
Ifrit.Eikechi said: Entourage, I think at that point, the 5% DA is diminishing returns for sure with all the other DA pieces/trait/merits war gets, no? That could be why augmented Bellicus are better even with 2 crit 2 WS dmg. DA always has decreasing returns, just like every other stat that affects per-WS damage. There's not a magic threshold where it suddenly has decreasing returns or anything of the sort.
Calmecac are only decent if the acc matters.
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Hello, i'm almost halfway on my ukon so i just started thinkin about some possible WS sets, but well, i'm not sure what i should build, STR or DA Crit ecc.
Any suggestion is appreciated ^-^
1st set mainly focused on str could be like this :
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/205175
2nd set with some more DA Crit% and Crit dmg :
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/205179
i'm also thinkin about Twilight helm and Ares's flanchard
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