Making Final Fantasy VII Harder

FFVII Class Challenge

Given Aeris’ scripted “leaving” once she does all other Classes are allowed to use specified Summon.

Paladin (Cloud)
Materia:
Magic - Restore, Barrier, Shield, Time?
Summon - Alexander, KOTR
Command - none
Independant- Cover, HP Plus, Pre-Emptive, Enemy Away, EXP Plus
Support – “All”
Items: Can use all items except greens and nuts
Accessories: Protect Vest, Silver Glasses, Headband, White Cape, Fairy Ring, Peace Ring, Ribbon, Safety Bit, Tough Ring

Magic Knight (Cloud)
Materia:
Fire, Ice, Lightning, Poison, Barrier, Shield, Seal, Silence, (whatever Materia allows you to attack with Holy)
No summon (except to be used to put elemental status on weapon or armor)
No command (maybe Deathblow since its closest to Darkside)
Speed Plus, HP Plus, MP Plus, Magic Plus
All?, Elemental, Added Effect, MP Absorb, HP Absorb
Items: Can use all items except greens and nuts
Accessories: Tetra Elemental, Cat’s Bell, Circlet

Dark Knight (Vincent)
Poison?, Gravity?, Mystify?, Destruct
Hades, Odin?
Deathblow, Double Cut, Slash-All
Counterattack, Enemy Lure, HP Plus, Gil Plus,
All?, Elemental, Sneak Attack, Counter, Add Effect
Items: Vampire Fang, Ghost Hand, Ink, Hyper, Dazers, War Gong, Cauldron, Kiss of Death,
Accessories: Cursed Ring, Fury Ring, Reflect Ring, Poison Ring, Power Wrist, Champion Belt, Sprint Shoes

Black Mage (Tifa)
Ice, Lightning, Fire, Poison, Earth, Gravity, Comet, Contain, Ultima
No summon
W-Magic
MP Plus, Magic Plus, HP<->MP,
All, MP Turbo, MP Absorb, Magic Counter, Quadra Magic, Final Attack
Items: Can only use Ether & Turbo Ether
Accessories: Talisman, Fire Ring, Earrings, Ribbon, Water Bracelet, Ice Ring, Bolt Ring, Tetra Elemental, Circlet

White Mage/Summoner (Aeris)
Materia: Restore, Heal, Revive, Fullcure
All Summon
W-Summon
MP Plus, Magic Plus, HP<->MP,
All, MP Turbo, MP Absorb, Final Attack
Items: Can only use Ether & Turbo Ether
Accessories: Peace Ring, Jemp Ring, Fairy Ring, Talisman, Fire Ring, Earrings, Ribbon, Water Bracelet, Ice Ring, Bolt Ring, Tetra Elemental, Cat’s Bell, Circlet

Red Mage (Red XIII)
Restore, Ice, Lightning, Fire, Poison, Heal, Revive, Seal, Exit, Barrier
No Summon
W-Magic
MP Plus, Magic Plus, HP<->MP
All, MP Absorb, MP Turbo, Magic Counter, Quadra Magic
Items: Can’t use any items (such is the price to pay for both black and white magic)
Accessories: Star Pendant, Talisman, Silver Glasses, Headband, Fairy Ring, Jem Ring, Fire Ring, Earrings, Ribbon, Water Bracelet, Ice Ring, Bolt Ring, Tetra Elemental, Circlet

Ninja/Theif (Yuffie)
Earth, Heal, Time, Mystify, Seal, Exit
Typohoon, Leviathan
Throw, Double Cut, Steal, Sense, Morph?
Gil Plus, EXP Plus, Speed Plus, Luck Plus, Pre-Emptive, Underwater
Added Cut, Sneak Attack, Steal as Well, Added Effect
Items: Explosive items, Speed Drink, Remedy items, Status items
Accessories: Protect Vest, Fire Ring, Ice Ring, Bolt Ring, Choco Feather, Water Bracelet, Amulet, Sneak Glove, Cat’s Bell, Sprint Shoes

Monk (Tifa)
Restore, Heal, Revive
Choco/Mog, Bahamut
Double Cut, Slash-All, Throw?
HP Plus, Luck Plus
Added Cut, Counter
Items: Can use all items except greens and nuts
Accessories: Talisman, Protect Vest, Power Wrist, Silver Glasses, Headband, Choco Feather, Peace Ring, Champion Belt, Ribbon, Safety Bit, Tough Ring

Archer/Bard/Hunter (Barret)
Restore, Transform, Seal, Mystify, Time, Destruct?, Barrier?, Exit, Shield?
Kjata, Phoenix, Choco/Mog
Manipulate, Morph
Chocobo Lure, Long-Range, Enemy Lure, Enemy Away, Underwater
Added Effect
Items: Can use all items
Accessories: Protect Vest, Power Wrist, White Cape, Peace Ring, Ribbon, Hypno Crown

Gambler/Blue Mage (Cait Sith)
Poison?, Seal, Transform (only for use with Elemental, Added Effect and Magic Counter Materia)
Shiva, Ifrit, Ramuh, Titan (only for use with Limit and/or Magic Counter)
Sense, Enemy Skill, Manipulate?,
MP Plus, Magic Plus, Luck Plus, Gil Plus, EXP Plus, HP<->MP, Underwater
(A low –level Counter and Magic Counter can also be used, preferably on a weapon with 0 Materia Growth otherwise be sure to swap it out once it reaches Lvl 2)
Items: Ether, Turbo Ether
Accessories: Can use all accessories

Dragoon/Chemist (Cid)
Restore, Heal, Revive, Gravity?, Barrier, Contain, (or in place of Magic Materia Enemy Skill)
Neo-Bahamut, Bahamut ZERO
Sense?, Steal, Deathblow, Throw?, W-Item, Mime
Long-Range, HP Plus, Speed Plus, Luck Plus,
MP Absorb, HP Absorb,
Items: can use all items
Accessories: Protect Vest, Power Wrist, Choco Feather, Champion Belt, Ribbon, Safety Bit, Amulet, Tough Ring, Tetra Elemental, Sprint Shoes

Beast/Beserker (Red XIII, Vincent)
Counter Attack, Long-Range, HP Plus, Speed Plus, Luck Plus, Gil Plus, EXP Plus, Pre-Emptive, Mega All
HP Absorb, Added Cut, Steal as Well, Magic Counter (junctioned to any Magic or Summon Materia), Counter (junctioned with Deathblow, Double Cut or Slash All)
Items: none
Accessories: Fury Ring

Breakdown
Cloud – Paladin or Magic Knight
Barret – Archer/Bard/Hunter
Tifa – Monk or Black Mage
Aeris – White Mage/Summoner
Red XIII – Red Mage or Berserker
Yuffie – Ninja/Thief
Cait Sith – Gambler/Blue Mage
Vincent – Dark Knight/Gunner (Dark Gunner) or Beserker
Cid – Dragoon/Chemist



I’ve gotten kind of used to just being lazy and having Aeris use a summon to almost always kill a large group of enemies so I don’t have to deal with them and also to bump up her kill rating to get her Lvl 2-1 Limit. Suffice to say I’m going to trade her out for Barret to train him a bit before his big fight with Dyne. Cloud can be the party healer in Aeris’ absence. Might even trade Tifa out for Yuffie, but I don’t know if I want to give up my Black Mage for an ok attacker who I’d just use to nab some items with the Steal command further drawing out the length of battles.

Doesn't imposing class restrictions totally destroy the only cool and original gameplay aspect of FFVII, I also don't see how swapping Party members is fundamentally different then swapping Materias.



How about you just try not using Auto-Win Combinations? Or Start to Finish using Default Weapons?

Also, Barret should be the Thief.

The Ingraham experience, age 11:

*1 crusty MechWarrior 4 joystick with unmappable controls
*FF7 PC (make sure the disc is all scratched up)
*Equip only green/red materia because "the rest are hecka gay and they don't give you any magics", effectively retarding your stats.
*Shut off the PC at random intervals to simulate freezing up.
*Every 10 seconds, cycle the cursor without stopping then confirm. This simulates more features of the joystick.
*Active only

Ok instead of making a new thread .. I just did the download on utorrent for ff7 like you suggested. The file was the 2.2 one so.I am pretty sure it is the right one. I still can not get it to translate onto my laptop. Says read only and Iso file. I tried to zip it and it doesn't Seem to work. On torrent it says 100 complete and then seeding. Whatever that means. So any help would be awesome. I need something to play while we are down.

Also on the lines of making VII harder - I read somewhere once (Long time ago) That getting to level 100 makes Sephiroth tougher at the end. Any truth in that or just internet retardation at its best?

False rumors

Also, Barret should be the Thief.

You could just use the pc remixer and play on the hardcore mod.

You could just use the pc remixer and play on the hardcore mod.