Square Enix Security Token - Gimic?

What exactly is this, and is it really all that great? Where there's a will there's a way, surely a gismo cant stop your account being hacked, any more that keeping your info secret and being careful? Sounds a bit like a money making ploy, esp with the "reward" that comes with.. just another stupid gimic? or can this be useful. Plus if this is anything like the gismo banks use to generate passwords.. they can go wrong, Ugh... disscussion go~

Sure it can keep your account safe. Noone is allowed to log into your account unless they type in the password that changes every 30 seconds (assumed) on the keychain.

Yeah should be interesting to see when this comes out.

What will be the Bugs that will also come out of it.

POL msg: Please enter the Correct Password = OMG my Account got stolen ^^

Well yeah... perhaps... lets hope then its better than the "virtual keyboard" that was ment to stop hacking.. but didnt >_>

One of my coworkers plays WoW and they have the same kind of thing. There will be some kind of way to register the keychain to your account and sync it up and then every minute it will generate a random password.

Sure your account can still be hacked but put yourself in the hackers shoes... would you rather want to hack someone that hasn't changed their password since they installed the game and probably used some familiar word, or try and hack and account that is constantly changing its password to some random alphanumeric cluster that is now where near sequential?

My question is, what if you were to lose this keychain by some chance..? Surely there would be some sort of failsafe (maybe, knowing SE..), but how long would it take to fix it? Seems like a real pain in the ***. lol.

You could look at it that way I suppose. But what's more annoying? Losing the keychain, or losing your account, spending weeks trying to get it back only to get presented with a naked character with no money or items?

Depends entirely on how much they charge for it whether this is a good idea or not.

Is it just me, or should the security of the game be covered in the 14.95 we already pay per month?

Same could be said about the WoW version of it, seeing that it is most likely made by the same exact company. But tbh, I'd rather them put more efforts in recovery moreso than security and services to help those that lost everything. Normal circumstance, with all the good antivirus, safe surfing practices, and firefox plugins, you're not 100% safe but you're pretty damn safe. But like all of those, the keychain as well has a very small chance of the gil/gold/whatever sellers still eventually breaking it. So tbh, I rather them step up the efforts to fix problems.

also What happens if you play on different platform @ diff place I use PC and PS2 @ home and i also carry a laptop with me that i use for work out out of the office. If I forget that keychain out home will that mean im screwed to play for the next 3 days that im satying out of town on business trip ,

Can't wait to see it when its available

Hey pyro sup. Prevention will always be the best solution.

Amen Well said

What difference would what platform you play on make?

Ditto <,< >,> v.V ^.^

I'm sure they'll still allow you to give your registration codes, cc#, address, date of birth, social security number, 1st grade teacher's name, favorite color, etc to have your password reset or the keychain password thing removed until a new one can replace the old one.

I leave PS2 and PC @ home and I carry Laptop with me.

I Forget this gadget @ home while i'm out with my Laptop for few Days , Thats what I mean

If you leave home for a few days and forget to take your keychain with you, that'd be your fault for forgetting it. The platform you play on would make zero difference to the likelihood of finding yourself in that predicament.

I don't think it's a real keychain in my opinion. Though it looks like one. :P But this is just my opinion. I could be wrong, may never know :P

What it says is:

"The token greatly increases the security of PlayOnline accounts by allowing users to log on by using a constantly changing one-time password that is displayed on the screen.

The Square Enix Security Token will be available for purchase through the PlayOnline Viewer in the near future for those who wish to take advantage of the added security this optional service provides.

As a special incentive, each Square Enix Security Token will come with an exciting in-game bonus which may just prove indispensible during your many adventures in Vana'diel!"

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Which is saying that you buy it like if it was a anti-virus thing but its on your pol. Meaning that "allowing users to log on by using a constantly changing one-time password that is displayed on the screen" So the lil pop up will come on for you to change the password while on pol, changing your password and you wont keystroke it in. which to them is reducing the keystroke hack programs to copy your passwords.

So "purchase through the PlayOnline Viewer in the near future for those who wish to take advantage of the added security this optional service provides" means its an optional service like the buying registration code & transfer service.

So I believe it is NOT a keychain. :)

It's undoubtedly a good idea to improve security. Many large companies, and banks in particular, use this form of security for access to their databases, on top of other login safeguards. However, this is SE. Give it some time before jumping out of your seat to buy one.



It's true. Blizzard introduced the same thing a few months back to protect WoW accounts, however, 3 weeks after initial production, the thousands of players that purchased the chain were unable to to login to their accounts due to there being a fractional delay in the passcode sync. Some players had to wait weeks for a new chain to be reissued and delivered before being able to log back in.

It's unlikely that this news failed to reach the ears of Square.. hell, its probably where they got the idea from, but seeing some of the sloppy programming errors SE have made in recent updates, I wouldn't put it past them to duplicate that exact error. It's not personal, but the fact is, people DO make mistakes. It's like when a new OS is released. It can be advertised as "Much more secure than our previous product". Not a direct quote, but for every advantage, there is a weakness. In the case of Vista, more than 1.

You will save yourself a LOT of hassle if you wait a few weeks for major bugs to be ironed out than to rush out and purchase the scarcely tested product, which could potentially put your account at even greater risk. This isn't to say that there WILL be errors in the product, but if you value your account enough to consider purchasing the product in the first place, you would wait to ensure that you won't be subjecting it to greater risks.

Hopefully Square Enix won't shoot themselves in the foot as usual and overcharge for this. I'm sure thousands of players will be interested in taking advantage of this... Hopefully it will be a few bucks at most; anything more and it's a bit ***of them really, since this kind of security should come defaulted into the game's coding anyway.

I can just picture the outcry if they dare to make money off of people's accounts being jeapordised.

So what if you're stuck at work and your friend wants to log you in to lot something, and you have no way to relay the new PW to them. >.>

Also, item = Panic Room.

Abit to what I have been relating too, PW is @ home and atm I'm at work and need to log on to check something = Screwed can't log in

that's why hense its not a keychain :(

SE would have ppl calling left and right about their password. I believe it is going to work like how i posted above. There's probably a screen that comes up to do it for you but the thing is, it is saved prob from your ip address or somehow only linked to your account only on your pc. So it will just reduce you from ppl logging into your account etc. I dunno its just an idea

Stop hating and start appreciating you two.

What if this, what if that.

If you forget or lose this gadget thats your own fault. Its like losing the keys to your car or house, you look "funny" to say the least if you do it.

The security this brings to your account outweighs all the possible down sides like forgetting the keychain home while your on a trip (which you have to be talented to do, like forgeting to bring underwear changes on your trip?). No keylogger or mouse position recorder (for the graphical keyboard) can make you lose your account with a password that changes every 30sec or 1min w/e it is? Imagine typing in your password and getting the keys logged. Hacker then tries to log in but damnnn your password has allready expired.

Like someone said earlier depends entirely on how much they charge for it whether this is a good idea or not.

someone having your password isnt an issue with their security if you get a keystroke logger on an outside website, they are simply making it so that if someone does get your password it will be useless when they try and use it since it is single use only. i dont mind paying a few $ for this as long as they dont try and rip us off like Wooooodum mentioned.
one concern that i do have is that if SE is so concerned about our password security, why do they ave us use the exact same account info to log into the linkshell communities as into ffxi

The fact that the keychain comes with an in-game item makes me think it'll be priced above what most people would want to pay for it.

probably, just like everything else that came with an in game item will be overpriced

I think this is a great idea because of how relaxed the passwords currently are to begin with. Your password for FFXI is alphanumeric only with no requirements except that is so long.

I'm in the Air Force and any passwords we used to have before switching to ID cards with chips used to be x number long and must contain 2 capitals, 2 lower case, 2 numerals, and 2 special characters within the first 9 characters.

An easy solution that they should of done along time ago is make it so you just flat out need a harder password to figure out. But since they wont and even then people stupidly use birthdays or some easy to remember word, this keychain/pop-up keygen or whatever you want to speculate it is, is a good idea for security.

i agree that the keychain is a great idea for security, since with a keylogger it doesnt really matter how hard your password is. what i am worried about is that an item marketed for security that should be $6 plus shipping will be sold for $80 with a bonus in game item.