Non-abyssea Xp

You can't meet people or have fun at lv 90?

I didn't realise you were in every party on every server ever.

I'm pretty sure I talked plenty in my parties and enjoyed meeting new people through them.

How about the people that want to exp for a short amount of time.

It's pointless to go to aby if you're not going to stay long enough to get exp up to a decent point. Yes i know it doesn't take long but there's also the time of finding the people for it and usually it's over the 6 people for a normal exp party (counting yourself).

1/3rd the people to find, often can nab a few friends too to speed it up in my experiances.

Most camps are open because people are aby obsessed.

Getting skill ups as you go instead of waiting till you're done exping and going back to something you hope you can hit.

I personally miss the old exp parties cause it was rare to have people in it doing nothing. Everyone has those exp parties with too many leeches, people afk for way to long if not just gone till kicked.

my 2 cents : 1 hour or so to make a conventional 6 man PT vs . 2-3hrs to make an abyssea alliance (since most ppl wont go expin in there with less than 15 75+) . Under Lv 75ish Old school would probly more time efficient . as a side note i skilled my friends Polearm on his WAR from 0 to 180ish . that took about 10-15 hrs and i spent probly close 100k on bloody bolts . so the time saved leaching in abyssea under Lv75 probly all comes out in the wash from skillin up those gimp skills , unless of course you have jobs that use those skills .

personal note : i took SCH from 45 to 90 thru abyssea already havin RDM/BLM/WHM @90 . even with the new EXP mechanic i would have done this , however if it was my first job past 75 or even 80 i probly woulda old schooled it til skills were capped for 75 seeing how the skill ups 75+ are sfew and far between .

sum up : do what makes you happy . its a game , have fun . the new mechanic is obviously to make EXPing in smaller groups in non-abyssea easier and EXPing in normal PT set ups @ lower lvs comparable to Leaching in abyssea except you do your skilling up as you Lv (2 colibri with one Stone5) and dont have to wait from EXP to build .


edit: what immortal said ^

Summoner burns are fun at 600+ exp/kill

Not sure what your server was like.
But xp parties were fun as hell.
Hanging out, xping witih friends, talking, and trying your best to out dmg other people lol.

I find the grind was the main reason the FFXI players PLAYED ffxi.

If you wanted an easy ride the whole way, you would be on WoW.

Grinding =/= hard. Just more time consuming and tedious.

But thats exactly what the first 6 years of FFXI was.

And thats exactly what set it apart from every other MMO.

That's not what you said in your previous post. Your previous post was regarding difficulty.

Implied ffxi was hard by saying if you want it easy, go to wow.

time consuming and tedious can be easy, it's just time consuming and gets old fast. For example, I'm playing a game where my objective is to press X 1,000 times. That is very easy. It's just going to take time and it's going to get old fast.

Well whether you want to view it as implied "not easy" or implied as "hard" they're still both wrong. The game was and always has been easy as ***. I have more trouble w/ Ninja Turtles the arcade game than I ever have w/ ffxi.

Time is a form of difficulty. It was indeed hard for me to find much time to xp for the first 6-7 years I played ffxi

You also pretty much only play jobs that are melee, ws, melee ws, etc... Of course everything's easy to you, lol.

And just for the record

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hard

involving a great deal of effort, energy, or persistence: hard labor; hard study.

Old school FFXI was damn hard in that respect, lol.

look at all the haters rating down haha, losers.

No job in this game is hard, lol. I've played more jobs than you think. I just happen to have the ones in my personal account to be the ones I enjoy most.

I've played traditional tanks, I've played mages, etc. I just choose not to level them on my account cause I don't particularly enjoy them.

As far as hard goes, the majority of the NES roster was tougher than this game.

You have to have them at lvl 75+ to know if they are hard or not... geeze didn't you know?

90 and solo'd on them as well as played pivotal roles in a pt/alliaince on them. Without using windower on dial up internet.

Man, NES games were hard as hell, lol. Pretty much the majority of all games made today are easier than most of the NES roster.

And I dunno, things like apollyon NW/SE(?) solo clears seem pretty hard to me. I could probably do them now but even then they wouldn't be what I'd call easy. Also crowd control in dynamis at 75 without having the aid of 3rd party sleep timers while trying to actually do other things (heal/nuke/cure/whatever) is not super hard but it's hard enough that you see people that SUCK at it. There are other things I could think of but that's what's off the top of my head.

The hardest thing about NES games was.. you couldn't save at all on most of them!

Who needs saves when you can have 40 character long passwords like metal gear solid!

So whats stopping you from chatting in abyssea parties? derp

Everyone is AFK

Theres alot that sets standard exp pts apart from abyssea pts in terms of time. Its something you should really consider when thinking about exp pts. for one, you start with a higher exp/kill thought this has always been present, but now its a much larger gap.

6 man pts should in theory be easier to build then 18 man pts. However, due to so many people being abyssea onry, it might be hard to find people that arn't just trying to keywhore there jobs to 90. In fact its so bad, that there are more people trying to leech then there are 75-90. And even when there are 75+ most are gimp.

Exp rings can be used outside of abyssea zones, and FoV can be used to gain exp bonuses, However from what I've seen with FoV most require you to kill mobs that are hard to reach, meaning for most you can't chill by a book and do page after page, this isnt true for all FoVs just most.

Old school pts are perfect for people who don't want to keywhore for whatever reason, be it lack of stones, lack of curor, just plan dislike, lack of Abyssea Add-ons (cause not everyone can afford it), or Time Constraints due to the fact that they don't have all day to wait on a pt just to spam a trade macro, and 3 hours just for the exp to get to the point where there actually getting it. Also, the new exp rate is great for leveling jobs you only want to level to sub, and only need to level for just a few levels, I got 6 levels on my whm in 2 days, duoing for a few hours each day.

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