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 Asura.Matzilla
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-02-14 22:06:11
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who said anything about capped skill
 
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-02-14 22:10:45
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My point still stands.

 
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-02-14 22:15:36
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buzzkillington :|
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-02-14 22:18:01
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stalwarts nor berserk are not always active, yet a bard and a cor are

where is your serious god now?
 
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-14 22:21:06
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Technicallly you could make it so both stalwarts and berserk are always up...
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-02-14 22:23:27
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I really rathered my whm didnt melee in most situations
 
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-02-14 22:27:00
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ya das and brews 24/7 and yeah, why would you use hexa with a brew?????????
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2011-02-14 22:28:34
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Asura.Matzilla said:
ya das and brews 24/7 and yeah, why would you use hexa with a brew?????????
Not enough skill for Flash nova.
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-02-14 22:29:25
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seraph strike had capped pdif against your mother lastnight so i still dont see a problem
 
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-02-14 22:36:38
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Asura.Matzilla said:
ya das and brews 24/7 and yeah, why would you use hexa with a brew?????????
cycling blu procs, or on mobs that resist all magic hexa is the best physical we get

soloprocing blue on blunt time would be much more fruitful on your abyssea burned monk

Because you have no friends
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-14 22:36:53
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Asura.Matzilla said:
ya das and brews 24/7 and yeah, why would you use hexa with a brew?????????
cycling blu procs, or on mobs that resist all magic hexa is the best physical we get
Pretty much all nms in abyssea resist magic to some extent. But don't think I've seen one yet that would make a good magical ws worse than any physical
 
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-02-15 14:33:47
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Summing up what we all came up with, I guess this would make the best Hexa build. Just putting it out here as a reference next time I wonder how I could improve my set and don't want to start another topic

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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-02-15 16:04:44
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Odin.Sheelay said:
Summing up what we all came up with, I guess this would make the best Hexa build. Just putting it out here as a reference next time I wonder how I could improve my set and don't want to start another topic


Marduk's Crackows
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-02-15 19:07:07
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Fenrir.Gradd said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
Summing up what we all came up with, I guess this would make the best Hexa build. Just putting it out here as a reference next time I wonder how I could improve my set and don't want to start another topic


Marduk's Crackows

:o I forgot about those, thanks! I wish I had a group of friends that still did Salvage :/

Nvm on that lol, this is more accurate: I wish I could still play regularly so I could meet any of my friends on game to do w/e
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-02-15 19:36:30
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still wondering if brutal is only not worth using if doing dw hexa, or if it applies to single wield hexa as well. merman's has 1 more att, but meh. there's also backlash torque, but no acc on that. i use acp haub, not sure what that vs augur's would be like.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-02-15 19:40:35
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Asura.Ludoggy said:

Not enough skill for Cataclysm.
ftfy
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2011-02-15 20:20:24
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Phoenix.Fredjan said:
Asura.Ludoggy said:

Not enough skill for Cataclysm.
ftfy
whoa whoa...clubs here, no staves allowed.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-02-15 20:23:24
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Ramuh.Lorzy said:
still wondering if brutal is only not worth using if doing dw hexa, or if it applies to single wield hexa as well. merman's has 1 more att, but meh. there's also backlash torque, but no acc on that. i use acp haub, not sure what that vs augur's would be like.

The issue with Brutal apparently is that it's not as big of an improvement to a 6 hit WS (since the max Attack x round is 8) as it is for lower hit WSs, and it doesn't have anything to do with single wield or DW. You will, however, want to use Brutal for TP.

DW is the ideal SJ for a melee WHM due to the higher DoT, but of course there are way less scenarios in which you'd be subbing /NIN.

There is a new crafted +7 Attack Earring I believe, but I can't seem to recall what its name was.

ACP Body would potentially be the best TP choice (being the only body with +DW option for WHM) with the right augments and the 3rd best Hexa body, with Augur and Marduk as top and 2nd best bodies.

Of course it all depends on your overall gear and whether or not you need stats such as Accuracy on the body slot.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-02-15 20:40:42
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dw does make a difference because the offhand hit makes it a 7hit ws, meaning that brutal can only affect one hit as opposed to 2. so brutal is better for non-dw than dw, but i don't know by how much.

i tp in goliard, i don't dw enough on whm to bother with dw acp. and you're looking at 8 mnd vs 10 att with like 20% mod? good to keep in mind if i change acp body (back when i got it i was whm blm brd onry), but i'll probably stick with haub for now because even if it's lower damage the acc is nice.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-02-15 21:05:32
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You don't get an extra hit on WS by Dual Wielding two weapons instead of one.

The reason Brutal is usually a great TP and WS piece is because it grants a 5% Double Attack chance to jobs that wouldn't otherwise have access to Double Attack and because it grants 1 STP which in several TP builds can be vital to reduce the number of times you need to swing your weapon to reach 100 TP.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-15 21:09:37
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Odin.Sheelay said:
You don't get an extra hit on WS by Dual Wielding two weapons instead of one.
Yes you do. Not only that but the hit from your offhand gives as much tp as the first main hand hit so dualwielding will also increase your tp return on ws by alot
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-02-15 21:12:01
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Odin.Sheelay said:
You don't get an extra hit on WS by Dual Wielding two weapons instead of one.
Yes you do. Not only that but the hit from your offhand gives as much tp as the first main hand hit so dualwielding will also increase your tp return on ws by alot

If that's true I guess I need to pay more attention to my tp returns ._.' when I DW..
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