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Random Thoughts.....What Are You Thinking?
Random Thoughts.....What are you thinking?
Josiahkf said: »
Almost 3 am wow
Hold me closer tiny dancer
Count the headlights on the highway
Lay me down in sheets of linen
You had a busy day today
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Artemicion said: »
Hold me closer tiny dancer
Count the headlights on the highway
Lay me down in sheets of linen
You had a busy day today
Josiahkf said: »
Decided to get anal+4 and redo all my chars inventories all at once. tired of being 75/80 in 20 places
takes so long though, if only there was a place with mog storage/safe/delivery/satchel/sack/locker we could all stand so I can spam trade 100 times instead of zone trade zone trade zone lol
takes so long though, if only there was a place with mog storage/safe/delivery/satchel/sack/locker we could all stand so I can spam trade 100 times instead of zone trade zone trade zone lol
omg my brain is fried. x.x
Almost done typing!
Lakshmi.Aelius said: »
-Gives a giant cookie-
sowee.
sowee.
*noms*
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
I don't really give up a lot at all honestly... Jamadhars + tabard + sash (you should really always use those 3 unless you have DL, then my build only loses like 7 acc but i dont have DL), then I use the sanction: int+40 hat to cap my sub stat along with the int+7 bracelets to help hit that cap. I don't think I'm losing much at all honestly. My main stat and sub stat are both pretty much at cap and my acc sits at like 389 that way.
Hm yea that would work fine, but you also have to realize DPS is the damage your doing during your melee phase, base damage doesnt mean anything in XIV at all except for BRD.
They killed the stat the second they added DPS into the Weaponskill damage formula because DPS is both your melee and WS damage making base damage very moot.
Edit:
Just basically explaining to you why Garuda's is the superior weapon.
GraddHelian said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
I don't really give up a lot at all honestly... Jamadhars + tabard + sash (you should really always use those 3 unless you have DL, then my build only loses like 7 acc but i dont have DL), then I use the sanction: int+40 hat to cap my sub stat along with the int+7 bracelets to help hit that cap. I don't think I'm losing much at all honestly. My main stat and sub stat are both pretty much at cap and my acc sits at like 389 that way.
Hm yea that would work fine, but you also have to realize DPS is the damage your doing during your melee phase, base damage doesnt mean anything in XIV at all except for BRD.
They killed the stat the second they added DPS into the Weaponskill damage formula because DPS is both your melee and WS damage making base damage very moot.
Edit:
Just basically explaining to you why Garuda's is the superior weapon.
Aren't you forgetting that once you cap your base stat/secondary you're supposed to load up on att+? That's where the Jams come in. +30 is a pretty big bonus imho /shrug.
edit: or am i getting it wrong?
BAHAHAHA I'M DONE!!!
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
GraddHelian said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
I don't really give up a lot at all honestly... Jamadhars + tabard + sash (you should really always use those 3 unless you have DL, then my build only loses like 7 acc but i dont have DL), then I use the sanction: int+40 hat to cap my sub stat along with the int+7 bracelets to help hit that cap. I don't think I'm losing much at all honestly. My main stat and sub stat are both pretty much at cap and my acc sits at like 389 that way.
Hm yea that would work fine, but you also have to realize DPS is the damage your doing during your melee phase, base damage doesnt mean anything in XIV at all except for BRD.
They killed the stat the second they added DPS into the Weaponskill damage formula because DPS is both your melee and WS damage making base damage very moot.
Edit:
Just basically explaining to you why Garuda's is the superior weapon.
Aren't you forgetting that once you cap your base stat/secondary you're supposed to load up on att+? That's where the Jams come in. +30 is a pretty big bonus imho /shrug.
edit: or am i getting it wrong?
While it is boosting your damage yes, attack isnt that strong of a stat to begin with, I just can't see 30 attack making it a stronger weapons than Garuda's especially when Garuda's is going to have higher Stat caps in the first place.
how much of a stat cap difference is that .8 DPS making?
and att is certainly a strong stat when you're main/secondary are capped. Just look at the massive att bonus from Power Surge on drg, or fists of flame on mnk (i main wind typically, but this is just to illustrate a point). Fists of flame are 100 att and that is a noticeable difference in dmg. The flame jams give +30 which is 30% of that (obviously). It's a good stat boost imho.
and att is certainly a strong stat when you're main/secondary are capped. Just look at the massive att bonus from Power Surge on drg, or fists of flame on mnk (i main wind typically, but this is just to illustrate a point). Fists of flame are 100 att and that is a noticeable difference in dmg. The flame jams give +30 which is 30% of that (obviously). It's a good stat boost imho.
Odin.Eikechi said: »
how much of a stat cap difference is that .8 DPS making?
I know Garuda's hovers around 358STR/315INT Ifrits sits around the 350/310 Range, i'd put Uldah's claws somewhere in the middle of that.
When I said Garuda's crushed it I didn't realize you could stat bonus it fairly efficiently.
The DPS difference is still going to be stronger on the weaponskill side though and the same should remain for your melee damage, if anything the weapons are pretty close if your unlocking the set bonus.
But once you start adding Darklight into the picture Garuda's comes back on top.
Sorry for the slow responses doing Hard Mode Nael with LS <.<
Mind posting your exact gear setup for me Eik?
Edit: Stats too please.
Sure. Gimme a few minutes. I'll go ahead and change to mnk (i'm in game crafting atm) and get sanction and all that ***.. What side stats do you want? Base att/acc/int/str? (my felt gloves need improving. I have str+33's but i've blown up about 30 of them trying for higher ><)
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Sure. Gimme a few minutes. I'll go ahead and change to mnk (i'm in game crafting atm) and get sanction and all that ***.. What side stats do you want? Base att/acc/int/str? (my felt gloves need improving. I have str+33's but i've blown up about 30 of them trying for higher ><)
Uh Just lemme know your STR/INT/ACC.
Pretty sure it's basically relic > garuda > flame > ifrit. The difference between garuda and flame is minimal, but it's there. And other gear can make or break that difference as well. However, there are times when you won't be able to have sanction up too, so you'll have to account for that, etc.
Main hand: Flame Jams
Head: Uldah Officer's Cap
Body: Flame Tabard
Waist: Flame Sash
Hands: Felt Bracers with STR+33
Legs: Felt Trousers with 11/11 STR/VIT for 15 STR total
Feet: AF (obviously for the wind bonus)
Earring: Explorer's
Neck: Electrum Gorget+1
Bracelet: Flame Sergeant's Bracelet
Rings: Double Rubelite+1
STR:342 INT:302 Att:558 Acc:389
Obvious Improvement would be DL Body for higher STR and higher STR melds on legs/hands so I can swap out for an INT ring, but I'm working on the crafts so I can actually get those melds done. Like I've said I've blown up like 30 friggin felt bracers trying for ANYTHING higher.
Head: Uldah Officer's Cap
Body: Flame Tabard
Waist: Flame Sash
Hands: Felt Bracers with STR+33
Legs: Felt Trousers with 11/11 STR/VIT for 15 STR total
Feet: AF (obviously for the wind bonus)
Earring: Explorer's
Neck: Electrum Gorget+1
Bracelet: Flame Sergeant's Bracelet
Rings: Double Rubelite+1
STR:342 INT:302 Att:558 Acc:389
Obvious Improvement would be DL Body for higher STR and higher STR melds on legs/hands so I can swap out for an INT ring, but I'm working on the crafts so I can actually get those melds done. Like I've said I've blown up like 30 friggin felt bracers trying for ANYTHING higher.
Should be swapping out the boots for something else. :3
Asura.Dominate said: »
Should be swapping out the boots for something else. :3
Why on earth would I want to lose that additional -10% WS cooldown? I mean MAYBE in 2.0 when TP generation (and mnk specifically) gets an overhaul, but prior? Idk about that.
edit: Also in regards to the sanction comment, I always have a scroll on me. If I'm dying 3 times in a single event where I can't replenish it (like between runs or w/e) then something is wrong strategy wise, not with my gear persay.
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Main hand: Flame Jams
Head: Uldah Officer's Cap
Body: Flame Tabard
Waist: Flame Sash
Hands: Felt Bracers with STR+33
Legs: Felt Trousers with 11/11 STR/VIT for 15 STR total
Feet: AF (obviously for the wind bonus)
Earring: Explorer's
Neck: Electrum Gorget+1
Bracelet: Flame Sergeant's Bracelet
Rings: Double Rubelite+1
STR:342 INT:302 Att:558 Acc:389
Obvious Improvement would be DL Body for higher STR and higher STR melds on legs/hands so I can swap out for an INT ring, but I'm working on the crafts so I can actually get those melds done. Like I've said I've blown up like 30 friggin felt bracers trying for ANYTHING higher.
Head: Uldah Officer's Cap
Body: Flame Tabard
Waist: Flame Sash
Hands: Felt Bracers with STR+33
Legs: Felt Trousers with 11/11 STR/VIT for 15 STR total
Feet: AF (obviously for the wind bonus)
Earring: Explorer's
Neck: Electrum Gorget+1
Bracelet: Flame Sergeant's Bracelet
Rings: Double Rubelite+1
STR:342 INT:302 Att:558 Acc:389
Obvious Improvement would be DL Body for higher STR and higher STR melds on legs/hands so I can swap out for an INT ring, but I'm working on the crafts so I can actually get those melds done. Like I've said I've blown up like 30 friggin felt bracers trying for ANYTHING higher.
That build is actually pretty nice, definatley makes going after the set bonus for those worthwhile, your ACC is rather low though, for most content i'd suggest trying to sit in the 405-410 Range, Garuda and Hard Mode Nael youd probably want around 430-440 or so.
If you ever do Miser your probably fine though, I know ifrit extreme you should be around 398 (Normal ifrit is actually more evasive than Extreme oddly enough).
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Asura.Dominate said: »
Should be swapping out the boots for something else. :3
Why on earth would I want to lose that additional -10% WS cooldown? I mean MAYBE in 2.0 when TP generation (and mnk specifically) gets an overhaul, but prior? Idk about that.
edit: Also in regards to the sanction comment, I always have a scroll on me. If I'm dying 3 times in a single event where I can't replenish it (like between runs or w/e) then something is wrong strategy wise, not with my gear persay.
You keep the effect when you put something else on the same way youd do for AF body.
Well if I change over to 14/14 STR/DEX felt trousers that would alleviate a lil acc, as well as vamping up my felt bracers so I can use 1 int 1 acc rings. I have like every type of ring+1 since I'm 50 gold, so that's not an issue. Or I can even use food for acc.
GraddHelian said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Asura.Dominate said: »
Should be swapping out the boots for something else. :3
Why on earth would I want to lose that additional -10% WS cooldown? I mean MAYBE in 2.0 when TP generation (and mnk specifically) gets an overhaul, but prior? Idk about that.
edit: Also in regards to the sanction comment, I always have a scroll on me. If I'm dying 3 times in a single event where I can't replenish it (like between runs or w/e) then something is wrong strategy wise, not with my gear persay.
You keep the effect when you put something else on the same way youd do for AF body.
Well it also lets me swap around my fists. Flame for TP phase and wind for when I'm about to combo up. I don't always do flame for TP phase, but I do jump fists often enough to keep them on all the time so I don't have to /attackmode off to switch and all that crap.
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Well if I change over to 14/14 STR/DEX felt trousers that would alleviate a lil acc, as well as vamping up my felt bracers so I can use 1 int 1 acc rings. I have like every type of ring+1 since I'm 50 gold, so that's not an issue. Or I can even use food for acc.
The 405-410 is before ACC food/Party buffs~ Tuna Kabobs specifically.
Edit: Miser you can probably use attack food, she literally has no evasion.
GraddHelian said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Well if I change over to 14/14 STR/DEX felt trousers that would alleviate a lil acc, as well as vamping up my felt bracers so I can use 1 int 1 acc rings. I have like every type of ring+1 since I'm 50 gold, so that's not an issue. Or I can even use food for acc.
The 405-410 is before ACC food/Party buffs~ Tuna Kabobs specifically.
Edit: Miser you can probably use attack food, she literally has no evasion.
And swapping out 1 ring for an electrum +1 would put me in the 400+ range. So again it comes down to getting some monster felt gloves. 0/30 on triple T3 melds ftl
Odin.Eikechi said: »
GraddHelian said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Well if I change over to 14/14 STR/DEX felt trousers that would alleviate a lil acc, as well as vamping up my felt bracers so I can use 1 int 1 acc rings. I have like every type of ring+1 since I'm 50 gold, so that's not an issue. Or I can even use food for acc.
The 405-410 is before ACC food/Party buffs~ Tuna Kabobs specifically.
Edit: Miser you can probably use attack food, she literally has no evasion.
And swapping out 1 ring for an electrum +1 would put me in the 400+ range. So again it comes down to getting some monster felt gloves. 0/30 on triple T3 melds ftl
Were doing the same thing ive been dumping so much gil into trying to get those made lately lol.
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