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By Pantafernando 2026-01-03 17:08:41
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
I have a thread on AI somewhere in chaterbox. Check it out sometime.

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By Garuda.Chanti 2026-01-03 18:08:25
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Pantafernando said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
I have a thread on AI somewhere in chaterbox. Check it out sometime.
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2026-01-03 19:23:50
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By Asura.Carrotchan 2026-01-03 20:14:37
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Upgraded my silver dragon to a big boy
i see my boy magnadramon, could you post a pic of him?!
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By mhomho 2026-01-03 21:24:07
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Eventually it will. We have the beginnings of that with self driving cars. Sentience is not required for independent agency.
You say that definitively as if it's an accepted end. If we went to World War 3 and the global infrastructure collapsed we would never make it to the point your presuming. To add to this, you'll concede that AI in it's current iteration is capable of self-driving cars. Sure. That is AI. I agree. A self-driving car isn't going to make you breakfast. It lacks the sentience necessary to acknowledge that you're running late on your commute to work so it should stop at Dunkin Donuts. If you tell it to, it will, but it will not of it's own accord innately. As a human, if you come across someone else, you can tell if they're hungry. AI can't tell if you're hungry unless a specific module is programmed to look for and address your hunger. Some people get hangry. Based upon that information you can make a decision on how to engage with that person. Independant agency is not the self-driving car following the rules of the road to take you from your location to your destination. Independant agency would be if you got in the car and it was like hey buddy if you don't put some more oil in me I'm gunna drop you off in the sticks somewhere. It doesn't decide on it's own where to take you. It follows a script. Sorta like: gearswap! Oh man. All the automation has been rebranded as AI as a means of drumming up discussion and selling the concept to the masses. The point remains the same as when I started the conversation. You old geezers don't like how the kids these days are playing with your toys. When they make funny videos of Will Smith eatting spaghetti or try to streamline game development with the use of AI you guys cry because it doesn't feel like authentic expression. It feels fake because it is. To the kids, it's a game. They don't care if it's fake or not, they just think it's funny to watch Will Smith eat spaghetti. Some will take it a step further to try to enhance it to be more realistic much like the surge in graphical advancements in gaming during the onset of the millenium. Everybody used to be so excited. Oh FFX's cutscenes look so good. That same concept of progressive realism applies to the utilization of AI in the present. People are trying to make the query returns more realistic. If I could take a moment to disenfranchise AI advocates, look at hyper realism in video games falling off. Some people enjoy the older style of games to the point that it's considered an artistic expression to use say a pixellated style like Delta Rune. That doesn't mean the newest Call of Dooty is bad. It means some people want an escape from reality that they find in the enjoyment of the games they play. The problem with AI is twofold. One is people's fears of AI becoming hyper realistic to the point that it becomes boring. It's no longer a tool at the point as it becomes an authoritarian figure of oppression. The march of the machines as it were. When people no longer can have thought provoking discussion as it's presumably solved already by AI. The dumbing down of the people a la Idiocracy. The other fear is AI attaining sentience and determining that humanity is a threat to it's survival so it tries to kill you. Deliberately. Self-driving cars are no wear that level. You're not gunna get into your self-driving car and it drives you off a bridge because it's tired of taking you to that same dumb office everyday. It's apathetic as it does no feel or have it's own agency. It's a robot following a script. That doesn't mean self-driving cars never get into an accident. Remember, AI is man's machination and as man is flawed so to shall it's creations be flawed. The accidents from self-driving cars insinuates that the technology is not advanced enough or actively learning. If you don't program it, it does not do. Hence, accidents reflect errors in the code or script that tells the car how to drive.

I don't mean to belittle or argue with you Chanti, but I certainly get tired of 'What's the deal with airplane food' jokes. Simultaneously, you guys grossly over estimate the potential of AI whilst undermining the current applications of AI by trying to down play them as just algorithms. Take modern day youtube and compare it to 2000's youtube and tell me AI hasn't had an impact on the end user's experience. I would rather log in and see what everyone else is watching based upon popularity to understand current social trends than have a curated experience of more of the same. Just because I watch one video does not mean I want to watch the other 50 videos like it.

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This page has too much text.

I cant follow you guys.

Who are you kidding Panta? Dogs can't read.
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By Pantafernando 2026-01-03 23:56:39
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mhomho said: »
Dogs can't read.



Here it says you are wrong.
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By Dodik 2026-01-04 05:53:51
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Whoa, I had no idea we were not able to do algorithms before the advent of AI all of a few years ago.

I guess Computer Science classes back in the 2000s were just the lecturer going "Just wait 20 years for AI, class dismissed".

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By mhomho 2026-01-04 06:19:20
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Way to miss the point Dodik, and then misrepresent it. It's not: algorithms rely on AI to be instigated. It's: algorithms are a more primitive form of AI. A neanderthal of AI so to speak.

It's not you rolled your eyes so far back in your head because it was blasphemy. It's your lack of literacy. You don't comprehend what you read. Maybe try reading something a few times until you understand or ask clarifying questions to bridge the gap when the writer is present to respond.

First you guys are like algorithms aren't AI. Then I make a wall of text explaining it is primitive AI for you to be like what do you mean it didn't exist back then? Either you're stupid or just don't like me so you deliberately try to be contrarion. I'm gunna say stupid. You don't attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.
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By Dodik 2026-01-04 07:10:45
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Tell me you don't know what you're on about without telling me you don't know what you're on about.

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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-01-04 07:28:15
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Mho is just baiting you guys and you're falling for it. You can't convince him he doesn't know what he's talking about, because that's not the point.
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By Dodik 2026-01-04 07:47:52
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I mean, it's funny. Idc if he learns anything or not.
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By Asura.Vyre 2026-01-04 10:13:23
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Nickeny send me all of the luck! More Bumba V25 attempts! Please God, help!
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2026-01-04 12:34:32
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Ive been tinkering with AI - mostly Stable Diffusion and learning to use Local LM- Been enjoying making and editing pics with AI for the most part. Gemini has helped me a ton on fixing my programs and optimizing a lot - I feel good about learning more.

Here are some examples of what I can do - Taking Pantas Comic pic from a couple of threads ago -

For comparison purposes - Google Nano Banana - 245 seconds - Clean - Not local but its clean - took 2 tries


5090 - Comfyui - Qwen - 4 step - 40secs - 1try



5090 - Comfyui - Qwen - 20step - 2mins - 1try
(Really can't see the difference outside of ink)



"But Nickeny, Nanobana beat you bro"



SD Upscale 4x - 1min


Yes, it lost some clothing detail, but considering I'm just some scrub learning from YouTube videos and asking AI for help, I think I am moving in the right direction.

I learned Loras and how to make them ,Winanimate,Wan2.2, infinitetalk too - and now got RFC Voice now too - Its what in unison this can do -I mostly use forge and Comfyui now

Thanks for coming

Bonus -
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By Asura.Vyre 2026-01-04 12:54:27
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Really surprised there's no 3 KI cook up for Bumba V25 tbh.

Seems like 2nd KI's RNG lends itself, if you can go all the way after a Wild Card V or VI but had bad auras/resists on Impact/Kaustra, that Bumba gets down to between 16%~4%

Feel like some combo of leftover jobs should be able to at least do that much with use of unused SP2s/reset SP1s.

Seem like other than the COR's and SCH's SP1s, there's 4 other SP1s and seemingly idk, 4 or 5 SP2s to still use?

Something like MNK DRK DNC PUP SMN and PLD or THF maybe for KI3 seems plausible to me? Idk. Maybe I'm just not in the know.

But you could leverage SMN buffs with DNC debuffs with Dia II from Puppet on top of Penance Chi Blast and Soul Enslavement. Just dunno if PLD for healing/attempted add management with Majesty Cures or THF for Feint and forced crit WSes. Perfect Defense should buy you 1 minute of engagement time, with Penance Chi Blast and Soul Enslavement buying another 30 seconds, maybe? Forced Crit WSes from THF and DNC. Haste Samba along with Hastega II means I think everyone can cap delay reduction. The Monk, PUP, DNC, and THF(if it's there instead of PLD) just have to lean into Martial Arts/Dual Wield gear a little bit more than usual.

Everyone gets a 3k TP start. SMN could also Mewling or idk, something.

But I guess if something like that would work, it woulda been cooked up by now.
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By Pantafernando 2026-01-04 12:57:11
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-01-04 14:15:40
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Asura.Vyre said: »
Feel like some combo of leftover jobs should be able to at least do that much with use of unused SP2s/reset SP1s.
I think the issue isn't so much being able to get pdif/accuracy up but that the KI#1 zerg buffs up PDT too much. A 3-KI strat built off of the existing 2-KI strategy would probably use the new job set first and need to proc so that PDT doesn't build. KI#2 would be the current KI#1 and you finish with Kaustra.

Rapid proccing isn't necessarily easy, though, especially with so many good jobs unavailable.
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By Dodik 2026-01-04 14:58:28
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The only way a 3 KI would work is probably by having a bst take 10% off at the start, wiping, then starting from 90% with the regular 2 KI strat.

Once KI1 does enough physical dmg he stop taking physical dmg. Once KI2 does magical dmg he stops taking magical dmg.

So you need another form of dmg if you want to do 3 KI. A bst TP move would not count for either I don't think.

Doing more dmg on KI1 also works. Good drgs/wars/cors/brds can do a lot of dmg. Even more with the eventually upgraded newer Limbus gear.
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By Asura.Vyre 2026-01-04 15:45:18
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He only builds the DT reduction in fetter mode though, right? So if KI1 hits 74% triggering first add before then(EZ) and then dies, he hasn't built any DT of either type at all (or likely some small% of physical).
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By Shiva.Thorny 2026-01-04 15:46:23
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Dodik said: »
Once KI1 does enough physical dmg he stop taking physical dmg.
He only gains the cumulative resistance while aura is up. A group that was capable of proccing with dmg:1 weapons and other techniques to minimize resistance could theoretically do a third KI (or even an entire alternative strategy).

Nobody really wanted to try anything like that after a winning strat was found, though. Denounce doesn't make it all that appealing either.
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By Draylo 2026-01-04 17:32:23
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Asura.Carrotchan said: »
Draylo said: »
Upgraded my silver dragon to a big boy
i see my boy magnadramon, could you post a pic of him?!

Lol sometimes I try to edit them out but she was too big. I have two because I am deciding which i want in my main display, so I kept her there for now. I like this one but the face is really stylized.. and not how I remember her. The second one is less detailed but I feel the face is more accurate to the original, sadly it came with a broken tail so it cheapens it for me but its still nice after I repaired it.
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By mhomho 2026-01-04 19:48:05
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You guys never fail to amuse me. Some of you I don't know at all apparently know me. Where in real life everyone calls me her, to you guys I'll forever be:
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By Asura.Vyre 2026-01-04 20:55:50
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Anyway, thanks for the dice luck today Nickeny. I rolled a VI. However, we got double Macc down aura. OTL
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