Also, we never had a canonical explanation about Yue's ending.
Well, all of Ryu's family members had horrible endings.
Random Thoughts.....What Are You Thinking?
Random Thoughts.....What are you thinking?
I find the weirdest crap sometimes looking up xi stuff. A channel for rmt and some people are in their videos reading a script. All comments on videos are bot like. Its like an AI pretending to be a youtuber for a company
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Seems legit
Dont nitpick the minor details
Draylo said: »
Finally platinum tales of arise, def one of my fav games in a while
YIKES I played that a bit, *** despise Tales Series, the only good ones were abyss and symphonia but gratz anyway
Pantafernando said: »
Also, we never had a canonical explanation about Yue's ending.
Well, all of Ryu's family members had horrible endings.
Well, all of Ryu's family members had horrible endings.
you can see her in dragnier, before the ending there were some special text logs
https://bof.fandom.com/wiki/Yua_Bateson_(Patty)
seems like the advance version added her in an ending
Yeah, but its still implicit, and apparently Ryu never meet her again, his only relative.
Well, when you fight against two opponents of equal strength, you can afford being passive and let them untouched.
You need to bring down one of them asap. Or they will team up against you
You need to bring down one of them asap. Or they will team up against you
Xenoblade 3 leaked. Be careful out there
With FFIII out of the way, my next stop to fill in the FF gaps is a 100%-ish run of FFXII. I hate the Zodiac job system, though, so it looks like I'm going to have to emulate the original (I have it for PS2 but the console is not working great anymore).
Has anyone tried PCSX2, the PS2 emulator? If so, how easy is it to operate?
Has anyone tried PCSX2, the PS2 emulator? If so, how easy is it to operate?
pcsx2 is the one I use, it's as simple as it can be, it's just click and play. Unlike epsxe for ps1 where you have to change settings to make it work.
Also had that same " I want to play the version that has more stuff but I hate the idea of the jobs system in XII" debate.
I still haven't picked lol. Should play the zodiac version but it kind of completely changes the way the game plays.
Also had that same " I want to play the version that has more stuff but I hate the idea of the jobs system in XII" debate.
I still haven't picked lol. Should play the zodiac version but it kind of completely changes the way the game plays.
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
pcsx2 is the one I use, it's as simple as it can be, it's just click and play. Unlike epsxe for ps1 where you have to change settings to make it work.
Also had that same " I want to play the version that has more stuff but I hate the idea of the jobs system in XII" debate.
I still haven't picked lol. Should play the zodiac version but it kind of completely changes the way the game plays.
Also had that same " I want to play the version that has more stuff but I hate the idea of the jobs system in XII" debate.
I still haven't picked lol. Should play the zodiac version but it kind of completely changes the way the game plays.
The general consensus seems to be that the Zodiac job system is great, but I have a really hard time wrapping my head around the notion that restricting job board freedom would be enjoyable for me when the whole point of the run would be to get and do everything. Beyond that, if I wanted to play with job restrictions then I could impose them upon myself. I don't need the game to force it for the sake of "fun".
But it's good to know that the emulator is simple to use. It makes the decision that much easier for me. Thanks!
The idea is that the original is too easy, you never have to sacrifice anything. Everyone can do everything.
Zodiac makes you take a healer and costs you dps, it's a "better" balance. It makes sense, it's a better experience when you aren't running 4 characters that are all the best at everything. and of course, has extra stuff.
Zodiac makes you take a healer and costs you dps, it's a "better" balance. It makes sense, it's a better experience when you aren't running 4 characters that are all the best at everything. and of course, has extra stuff.
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
The idea is that the original is too easy, you never have to sacrifice anything. Everyone can do everything.
Zodiac makes you take a healer and costs you dps, it's a "better" balance. It makes sense, it's a better experience when you aren't running 4 characters that are all the best at everything. and of course, has extra stuff.
Zodiac makes you take a healer and costs you dps, it's a "better" balance. It makes sense, it's a better experience when you aren't running 4 characters that are all the best at everything. and of course, has extra stuff.
Yeah, I understand the premise, it just doesn't suit me well. I like the idea of having to start out specialized for the sake of balance but being able to expand past that if you want to put in the effort. As awkward as the sphere grid was, that concept worked out fairly well in FFX. You just need other systems in place to ensure that the characters still feel unique.
Afaik, the PS4 zodiac age you can decide if you want to restrict the job or no.
Personally, i like that because it gives some uniqueness to otherwise generic fighters.
Also, one of the highest point in my last XII play was the challenge mode, where i progress just a bit in the main game then went to check how far i could go to the challenge.
The downside is that as soon as you beat the challenge, all thats left in game is the optional bosses and the story, because you end too strong with the gear obtained
Personally, i like that because it gives some uniqueness to otherwise generic fighters.
Also, one of the highest point in my last XII play was the challenge mode, where i progress just a bit in the main game then went to check how far i could go to the challenge.
The downside is that as soon as you beat the challenge, all thats left in game is the optional bosses and the story, because you end too strong with the gear obtained
Asura.Eiryl said: »
it's a better experience when you aren't running 4 characters that are all the best at everything
Tell Hollywood.
It kinda feels like they did it backwards. The jobs shouldve been the og and then made it more fun and open when they added extras.
Like you mention it works well in X, start out balanced and then they merge if you want them to.
Like you mention it works well in X, start out balanced and then they merge if you want them to.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
With FFIII out of the way, my next stop to fill in the FF gaps is a 100%-ish run of FFXII. I hate the Zodiac job system, though, so it looks like I'm going to have to emulate the original (I have it for PS2 but the console is not working great anymore).
Has anyone tried PCSX2, the PS2 emulator? If so, how easy is it to operate?
Has anyone tried PCSX2, the PS2 emulator? If so, how easy is it to operate?
Pretty sure you can choose which version you play in Zodiac Age. I can pop it in real quick and find out.
Edit - No, not seeing that option. Anyway, whatever job you choose, you get that entire job board, without seeing the rest of it. There are plenty of nodes, I don't even have them all selected at level 90. It helps lessen the idea that you are missing out on things.
Asura.Eiryl said: »
It kinda feels like they did it backwards. The jobs shouldve been the og and then made it more fun and open when they added extras.
Like you mention it works well in X, start out balanced and then they merge if you want them to.
Like you mention it works well in X, start out balanced and then they merge if you want them to.
Well 12 isn't a good game. Bad story, bad cast, bad summons, not a good battle system. The weapons and bounties were fun, Gilgamesh specifically, but other than that, it's not good. I do think that the Zodiac system helped it a lot, but it still has so many shortcomings.
The HD remaster of XII has the option, but it's not like that iirc.
It lets you choose Zodiac, or original, there's no way to play zodiac without jobs. (but its been a long time since I looked)
It lets you choose Zodiac, or original, there's no way to play zodiac without jobs. (but its been a long time since I looked)
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
It kinda feels like they did it backwards. The jobs shouldve been the og and then made it more fun and open when they added extras.
Like you mention it works well in X, start out balanced and then they merge if you want them to.
Like you mention it works well in X, start out balanced and then they merge if you want them to.
Well 12 isn't a good game. Bad story, bad cast, bad summons, not a good battle system. The weapons and bounties were fun, Gilgamesh specifically, but other than that, it's not good. I do think that the Zodiac system helped it a lot, but it still has so many shortcomings.
I'll give it a fair shake, but my hopes aren't particularly high. Maybe I should have saved some of the more beloved titles for last. It's going to be a slog going through XII, all three games of XIII, and then XV just so I can be caught up. Most/all of those titles are not exactly seen as high marks for the series.
Asura.Eiryl said: »
The HD remaster of XII has the option, but it's not like that iirc.
It lets you choose Zodiac, or original, there's no way to play zodiac without jobs. (but its been a long time since I looked)
It lets you choose Zodiac, or original, there's no way to play zodiac without jobs. (but its been a long time since I looked)
I can't find anything about a remastered version of the original but I'm still looking into it. Also, there is a way to reset licenses in the newer versions of Zodiac Age, so you're not locked into jobs permanently and you can even reassign Espers. I think that's a nice touch.
I would love to play some more with gambit system.
My dream actually is to make my bots in FFXI gambit-like and replay FFXI like a FFXII extended version.
There is a long way of programming to replicate that AI though.
My dream actually is to make my bots in FFXI gambit-like and replay FFXI like a FFXII extended version.
There is a long way of programming to replicate that AI though.
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
It kinda feels like they did it backwards. The jobs shouldve been the og and then made it more fun and open when they added extras.
Like you mention it works well in X, start out balanced and then they merge if you want them to.
Like you mention it works well in X, start out balanced and then they merge if you want them to.
Well 12 isn't a good game. Bad story, bad cast, bad summons, not a good battle system. The weapons and bounties were fun, Gilgamesh specifically, but other than that, it's not good. I do think that the Zodiac system helped it a lot, but it still has so many shortcomings.
I'll give it a fair shake, but my hopes aren't particularly high. Maybe I should have saved some of the more beloved titles for last. It's going to be a slog going through XII, all three games of XIII, and then XV just so I can be caught up. Most/all of those titles are not exactly seen as high marks for the series.
Out of all of those 12 is the most playable. It's not a bad game to play, just ignore the story. It's worthless. You are saving the kingdom as Princess Ashe and some street rats. That's the story. The zones aren't bad, the enemies are well designed, the dungeons...they have enough save points to make them manageable. The summons really are worthless for essentially the entire game, though.
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Pantafernando said: »
I would love to play some more with gambit system.
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Pantafernando said: »
I would love to play some more with gambit system.
My dream actually is to make my bots in FFXI gambit-like and replay FFXI like a FFXII extended version.
There is a long way of programming to replicate that AI though.
My dream actually is to make my bots in FFXI gambit-like and replay FFXI like a FFXII extended version.
There is a long way of programming to replicate that AI though.
Once upon a time I had hope that we'd get a gambit-like system for trusts in XI to lay the foundation for an eventual transition to an offline game. But after seeing countless online games just die, the reality hit me that whenever a game is near its end the devs are far beyond the point where they care about devoting the time and resources necessary to make an offline transition happen. It would need to be planned for and baked in from the start.
it's never not infuriating to think about how simple (not great, but effective) 12's gambits are and how significantly they'd improve trust, yet could never give half a *** about doing it.
Even the adventuring fellow has the makings of a gambit system. You can set their style and deactivate aoe.
Even the adventuring fellow has the makings of a gambit system. You can set their style and deactivate aoe.
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Even the adventuring fellow has the makings of a gambit system. You can set their style and deactivate aoe.
I still wonder what they'd do to XI after it's "done". Remember how much money they devoted to XIV because they absolutely refused to have a numbered title be erased from existence. Now it's very prolific.
Would they really just let a numbered Final Fantasy stop existing?
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