Random Thoughts.....What Are You Thinking?

we are biologically much closer to herbivores than you seem to think.

it would suck compared to the standard american diet of addictive tastiness yeah, but the only nutrient we wouldn't be getting with a purely space plant diet would be vitamin b12, (which is injected into some of your commonly edible animals since they cant get it naturally due to industrial farming limiting their day to day,) and it's more efficient to take a supplement for that anyway regardless of how much meat someone eats.

you would not die from any form of malnutrition, but you're right you'd spend a *** of oxygen and calories and time maintaining your bones and muscles in zero G, since everything would start to atrophy the second you left.

Not at all, and prolonged exposure without any sort of artificial environment would require extensive physical therapy if not cause permanent damage.

I'm not saying we shouldn't travel space as we most certainly should, but there are a lot of obstacles in the way. Really as soon as there's money to be made by vast amounts in space, we'll see it happen.

don't forget we've had people go to space for an entire year and just work out a *** to counter the atrophying of their bones and muscles too.

Nasa is working on a few ideas with the radiation problem

Tsk those fit and healthy vegans sure dont know better! Here have some delicious tofu <3

There's nothing healthy about being malnourished.

And I don't doubt that at all. But that goes against Josi's original premise of solar-only setup.

You literally cannot feed plants the further out you go in space, and we are talking about deep-space explorations, not just explorations within our solar system.

And plants require such filtering too. But even then, they will all die before you even hit Neptune.

But never gone beyond the moon. It's like sleeping outside in your front yard for a year and then claiming that you are ready to travel outside your state (or in your case, country) by yourself with no human assistance (food, shelter, clothing, or any of the niceties of civilization).

tbh you guys are focusing on light, but really the issue is water. even composting and a filtration system to clean waste you're going to run out of water. growing plants especially on the scale you're talking about is super water intensive. every round of plants/consumption is going to cause some water loss. essentially you'll be able to grow less and less each time. nutrients for feed and light will be the least of your worries.

All of this is pointless conjecture. There's a mass relay just outside of the edges of Sol waiting to be activated so that it can connect us to our very first intersolar war peaceful spreading of freedom, capitalism, and democracy.

*nitpick-mode activated*

We aren't the Sol system, we are the Gaia system!

We are biologically omnivores, full stop. Any exclusion of food types in our diets is either from environmental circumstances or behavioral choices.

Don't mind Josi.

He is Canadian and therefore always mistaken about everything but moose and syrup.

Its finally getting a bit chilly here, down to the 50s. I guess I will put a fleece on.

Wimp

I've evolved to eat whatever the *** I want and mom can't stop me.

Do you stay up late and watch those pornos you always dreamed on watching?

>.>

that's why this trip would require what the opening post mentions, going from one frozen asteroid to the next, to break off chunks of ice as needed since even with plants engineered to need less water, you'd go through a crapload of it, especially sweating and exercising as much as one would need to, to counter normal muscle and bone atrophy

plus if we can mine that much water, it means we can turn the excess into oxygen to breathe and hydrogen to power the ship

Star Wars is getting the reviews I expected, and I think it will be a lot worse movie than what they are saying about it. On the plus side, Mandalorian finally got its ***together today.

You hush and what problem have you had with the Mandelorian thus far?

If you had the power to do all that mining and electrolysis you probably wouldn't need the power from the hydrogen. But sure you could use it for propulsion maybe if we still wanted to use combustion propulsion.... though if you have a power source doing all that I'd imagine you'd go for some kind of electromagnetic propulsion

Eps 4-6 were terrible.

I don't agree but ok. Now off to watch ep7.

ok. so we're playing full science fiction where we can easily stabilize and mine water off of asteroids and we somehow mastered hydrogen fuel engines which we can't even do on earth. a lot of the water on the asteroids and comets varies wildly from the water on earth. the layers of water on asteroids also is very thin layers of ice surrounding it that would be almost impossible to gather efficiently short bringing the asteroid in side your ship and letting the ice melt and collect on the floor into drains. even then you're dealing with water that has been collecting radiation unfiltered from lack of atmosphere (do you want monster plants, cause that's how you get monster plants.).you're dedicating your already limited resources into an asteroid hopping mission for very little return.

the technical advancements that would be needed to turn us into essentially space hobos looking for water, would actually be better spent on fixing earth.

If I was to be generous, I would say episode 5 was terrible, episode 4 was acceptable, and episode 6 was pointless.

I mean if you want an extremely volatile bomb to power your ship...

NASA already uses liquid hydrogen as rocket fuel for the space shuttle since it’s ~35% better than conventional fuels, combined with liquid oxygen to keep the combustion going.