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By Anna Ruthven 2016-09-17 11:22:26
I prefer root beer to cream soda.
Ever drink any of those Jones' sodas? I'll be honest.
I hate Jones soda with quite a passion. It tastes off to me, almost bitter. Idk.
I can not stand them. I bought the cream soda version and it took me weeks to force myself to finish the last one off. That last one was rough. To each their own. But you're WRONG!
>.> I don't like the weird flavors.
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By Leon Kasai 2016-09-17 11:33:12
Welp. Finishing up loose ends on XI; cleared RoZ. Eald'narche died way faster than I expected. Accidentally auto-attacked him to death before I even had time to set up any JAs.
Now to go punch Bahamut in the ***.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-09-17 11:33:47
By Enuyasha 2016-09-17 12:08:12
So Yoshida's idea of Ark Angels for XIV is just to rerender and implement the original party from 1.0.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-09-17 12:10:04
So Yoshida's idea of Ark Angels for XIV is just to rerender and implement the original party from 1.0. They are different from Ark Angels.
By Enuyasha 2016-09-17 12:12:26
So Yoshida's idea of Ark Angels for XIV is just to rerender and implement the original party from 1.0. They are different from Ark Angels. Thematically they are supposed to be you and your friends but the "Dark" version.
They arent the 5 tears Altana cried to create the races: But they are basically the same thing.
I mean, i love the fact that somehow you get to fight the original party from 1.0, but it doesnt make much sense otherwise.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-09-17 12:14:20
Thematically they are supposed to be you and your friends but the "Dark" version.
They arent the 5 tears Altana cried to create the races: But they are basically the same thing. How is those two statements the same thing? That's like saying a brontosaurus and a chair are the same cause both have four legs..
By Enuyasha 2016-09-17 12:23:12
Thematically they are supposed to be you and your friends but the "Dark" version.
They arent the 5 tears Altana cried to create the races: But they are basically the same thing. How is those two statements the same thing? That's like saying a brontosaurus and a chair are the same cause both have four legs..
Hydaelen chooses you and your friends for whatever reason to become the Warriors of Light Louisoix saves you from being roasted, somethingsomething plot line huge climax now there's dark ones.
Other than who creates them and why they are created, fundamentally it is a mirror image.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Im interested to see how it plays out but it's the same concept for a different universe.
Uhmean
Pretty gosh darn parallel
I DDDDDOOOOOOOOO want to go to the planets moon though, cause why do Ascians get to play around in space but i dont. ITS MY 12.99 GOSH DARNIT!!!
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-09-17 12:43:53
ffxiv rage?
fun fact: most of Eorzea main content and ideas is borrowed from every other ff title. Eorzea main content is far from "Original". This is why i dont like it.
That parallel you just posted is more than enough to eat my trumpets, i hate that they just repurpose models from other games too. It's so infurating. I hated it when i saw that the adamantoises where just higher res ffxi turtles.
Like theres a line where it's funny and where it's not.
Like FFXI has Bubbly burnie and he is a joke.
FFXIV Has him, and he is huge and a house wrecker...
THATS FINE
But when it's like recycling and recycling and recycling. The game even recycles gimmicks for boss fights. It's so infuriating to me.
This is why i couldn't play FFXIV, because the recycling of content from other final fantasy titles is just aggravating. Their Models, Their story points.... There is a Very small ammount of originality to ffxiv.
And before "Well FFXI Does it", FFXI does, but it's refreshing when they do it. It's got it's own little charm too it and much more like "Thats freaking awesome". Like With Pandy warden and his Unity version, same NM, but so much more in depth too him. Ya know? That and it's a revamp version of like 8 year old content... IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE! And more of a nod to the old times of the game.
But 14.. it's just every newww patch is just copy pasta... <_< >_>;;
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By Leon Kasai 2016-09-17 12:49:07
If you really must *** and moan about how the Warriors of Darkness are a reference to a previous FF, at least use the right example.
They originally appeared in FF3; they are not a reference to 11's Ark Angels.
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By Enuyasha 2016-09-17 12:51:10
ffxiv rage?
fun fact: most of Eorzea main content and ideas is borrowed from every other ff title. Eorzea main content is far from "Original". This is why i dont like it.
That parallel you just posted is more than enough to eat my trumpets, i hate that they just repurpose models from other games too. It's so infurating. I hated it when i saw that the adamantoises where just higher res ffxi turtles.
Like theres a line where it's funny and where it's not.
Like FFXI has Bubbly burnie and he is a joke.
FFXIV Has him, and he is huge and a house wrecker...
THATS FINE
But when it's like recycling and recycling and recycling. The game even recycles gimmicks for boss fights. It's so infuriating to me.
This is why i couldn't play FFXIV, because the recycling of content from other final fantasy titles is just aggravating. Their Models, Their story points.... There is a Very small ammount of originality to ffxiv.
And before "Well FFXI Does it", FFXI does, but it's refreshing when they do it. It's got it's own little charm too it and much more like "Thats freaking awesome". Like With Pandy warden and his Unity version, same NM, but so much more in depth too him. Ya know? That and it's a revamp version of like 8 year old content... IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE! And more of a nod to the old times of the game.
But 14.. it's just every newww patch is just copy pasta... <_< >_>;;
XI uses other creatures from the same species, which allows them to reskin everything to death.
XIV is a true niche themepark MMO that shouldve just been called Final Fantasy Online (Same with XI, but for whatever reason they decided to add numbers to them) with how much it piecemeals FF4 and whatever other titles they sample.
Im not exactly angry with it, im just more sort of disenchanted i guess? Meanwhile: More Hildibrand cause YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY weird japanese humor and less actually playable content for endgame.
If you really must *** and moan about how the Warriors of Darkness are a reference to a previous FF, at least use the right example.
They originally appeared in FF3; they are not a reference to 11's Ark Angels.
Yea, but they chose this route as well. FF3 was just YOUNermind FFWiki is based god, which is what i was expecting seeing as how you only saw darkside derplander in the MSQ and it made his accomplishment of soloing Ravana more intriguing as a story. Using the whole party from 1.0 is not that, it's something else at this point.
In order to balance light and dark for one person and his group of side characters who hold no other significance than to just say they were there (as Koji Fox said at fanfest, even though there is ONE WoL[you] the story considers the other members of your party just equal randoms who help you to take down whatever challenge arises and the story itself changes who the WoL is based on which character is playing that role) we create dark doppelgangers of the entire legendary party of who the legends are made about (Even though the WoL is only one single person as the MSQ would like you to believe).
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-09-17 12:51:12
If you really must *** and moan about how the Warriors of Darkness are a reference to a previous FF, at least use the right example.
They originally appeared in FF3; they are not a reference to 11's Ark Angels. Ik lol.
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2016-09-17 12:56:23
Just threw my WIFE Mysticat a surprise party on game with all our friends :D
Thank you Everyone that came and everyone that couldn't come but send their Regards :D
Pics are posted :D
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-09-17 12:56:46
ffxiv rage?
fun fact: most of Eorzea main content and ideas is borrowed from every other ff title. Eorzea main content is far from "Original". This is why i dont like it.
That parallel you just posted is more than enough to eat my trumpets, i hate that they just repurpose models from other games too. It's so infurating. I hated it when i saw that the adamantoises where just higher res ffxi turtles.
Like theres a line where it's funny and where it's not.
Like FFXI has Bubbly burnie and he is a joke.
FFXIV Has him, and he is huge and a house wrecker...
THATS FINE
But when it's like recycling and recycling and recycling. The game even recycles gimmicks for boss fights. It's so infuriating to me.
This is why i couldn't play FFXIV, because the recycling of content from other final fantasy titles is just aggravating. Their Models, Their story points.... There is a Very small ammount of originality to ffxiv.
And before "Well FFXI Does it", FFXI does, but it's refreshing when they do it. It's got it's own little charm too it and much more like "Thats freaking awesome". Like With Pandy warden and his Unity version, same NM, but so much more in depth too him. Ya know? That and it's a revamp version of like 8 year old content... IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE! And more of a nod to the old times of the game.
But 14.. it's just every newww patch is just copy pasta... <_< >_>;;
XIV is a true niche themepark MMO that shouldve just been called Final Fantasy Online (Same with XI, but for whatever reason they decided to add numbers to them) with how much it piecemeals FF4 and whatever other titles they sample. i would call it far from a niche park with it basically being WoW...
Maybe a bit closer to Tera...
The game is far from "Niche" or "Original"
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-09-17 13:00:54
Or maybe im just being grumpy today...
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-09-17 13:01:49
All FF use throwbacks to previous titles. Reusing mobs from older FF is normal and a staple in the saga. Actually, it's expected.
I get more mad when I see Valefor being a random pigeon or Quetzal a turkey.
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-09-17 13:05:48
It just annoys me when my brother is like "FFXIV is the most original game evar"
But theres also a point to that "Staple" or borrowing things from other games has a line. Like theres, "Oh thats cool way to represent that thing from a previous game" and then theres "Ok that's the dumbest callback to this thing ever". 14 is "Ok thats the dumbest call back to this thing ever" like 24/7.
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By Asura.Vyre 2016-09-17 13:06:02
ffxiv rage?
fun fact: most of Eorzea main content and ideas is borrowed from every other ff title. Eorzea main content is far from "Original". This is why i dont like it.
That parallel you just posted is more than enough to eat my trumpets, i hate that they just repurpose models from other games too. It's so infurating. I hated it when i saw that the adamantoises where just higher res ffxi turtles.
Like theres a line where it's funny and where it's not.
Like FFXI has Bubbly burnie and he is a joke.
FFXIV Has him, and he is huge and a house wrecker...
THATS FINE
But when it's like recycling and recycling and recycling. The game even recycles gimmicks for boss fights. It's so infuriating to me.
This is why i couldn't play FFXIV, because the recycling of content from other final fantasy titles is just aggravating. Their Models, Their story points.... There is a Very small ammount of originality to ffxiv.
And before "Well FFXI Does it", FFXI does, but it's refreshing when they do it. It's got it's own little charm too it and much more like "Thats freaking awesome". Like With Pandy warden and his Unity version, same NM, but so much more in depth too him. Ya know? That and it's a revamp version of like 8 year old content... IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE! And more of a nod to the old times of the game.
But 14.. it's just every newww patch is just copy pasta... <_< >_>;;
To me, in XIV, whenever they repurpose some NM's name for like a Fate Boss and all that, it's usually a hilarious reference to FFXI. I enjoy seeing all the hi-def XI references in armor and stuff too. Nostalgia triggers.
As for the other game references, it's pretty much the same as FF9. You like FF9 don't you? I mean, it's not got the same aesthetic(XIV is like, LOOK AT HOW BISHI I MAKE EVERYTHING), but when it references other FFs it still takes into account an in game lore for them.
For instance, the Empire of Garlemald from the land of Garlond. FF1 reference to Garland, very duh, but fairly creative in that he hasn't been referenced this way before. All their leaders look like him to some extent(their armor). They use magitek armor and gunblades, another cool way to mix and reference two FFs at once.
All of the primals have backstories related to in game beastmen, most of which are not in other FFs (The Amal'jaa, the Ixal, the Gnath, the Vanu, the Kobolds etc).
I love that they make many FF1 and FF6 references. I think they make them the most.
Only thing that irks me, is that they gave us a really shitty story to go along with a very shitty "raid" for Alexander. Hopefully they'll go back to Coil level storytelling for future raids.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2016-09-17 13:14:15
For instance, the Empire of Garlemald from the land of Garlond.
It's on the continent of Ilsabard, Garlond is the family name of Cid and Midas
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-09-17 13:16:09
Vyre Basically reinforces what i said, Theres the cool way to make those references. And then the sucky way FFXIV goes about it...
It's more stealing than it is making it look cool and being a fresher look on the original design.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2016-09-17 13:17:30
All of the primals have backstories related to in game beastmen, most of which are not in other FFs (The Amal'jaa, the Ixal, the Gnath, the Vanu, the Kobolds etc).
While some dragons (Bahamut, Tiamat etc) are a nod to older FFs they have their own original storyline and language/way of speaking etc
By Enuyasha 2016-09-17 13:20:26
Bismarck.Dracondria said: » All of the primals have backstories related to in game beastmen, most of which are not in other FFs (The Amal'jaa, the Ixal, the Gnath, the Vanu, the Kobolds etc).
While some dragons (Bahamut, Tiamat etc) are a nod to older FFs they have their own original storyline and language/way of speaking etc I like the addition of Midgardsormr and Hraesvalgr as well, the Dravanian Horde storyline was well put together. I do want to fight Tiamat, but i can accept how they entered that particular big named dragon into the world of XIV.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2016-09-17 13:21:10
There are still 2 unnamed dragons though, we might meet them down the line
By Enuyasha 2016-09-17 13:22:02
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »There are still 2 unnamed dragons though, we might meet them down the line hopefully Jormungand comes out to play.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-09-17 13:38:43
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »There are still 2 unnamed dragons though, we might meet them down the line hopefully Jormungand comes out to play. Jormungand and Vrtra maybe?
This is a thread that I found on another website I post at. It can be really really interesting. I thought it deserved a place here.
Post your random thoughts for the day here, or anything else that intrigues you.
For starters, is it possible to give constructive critism to someone who doesn't have a neck? I totally just walked by a girl who didn't. Someone isn't getting a necklace for Valentines day!
And who decided black and white can't be colors? I want to say a racist. I really do.
Inb4thisthreadgetsreallywtf
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