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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-09-05 19:02:10
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Bismarck.Magnuss said: »
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Whoa they actually wanted to hit you? Wtf?
No, it never got to that point. I was just lucky that they didn't try it. If anything, it shows that they do respect me, because from what I've heard, these two aren't the types to hold back.

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I used to argue with almost all of my teachers in school .-.
You are every one of my students.
I argued with most of my teachers too >.> But in my defense they were horrible teachers. How do you lose my entire portfolio of work?!
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-09-05 19:04:31
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Shiva.Spathaian said: »
Not wanting to learn, whatever that's their own choice
The uninterest for the lessons can derive from many things though. From depression or other personal problems at home, to simple disregard for the subject at hand, to being too advanced for the level of teaching being offered in that class. All can lead to frustration, boredom, etc and lead to a lack of participation on all fronts.

But I digress.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2014-09-05 19:07:54
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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Not wanting to learn, whatever that's their own choice
The uninterest for the lessons can derive from many things though. From depression or other personal problems at home, to simple disregard for the subject at hand, to being too advanced for the level of teaching being offered in that class. All can lead to frustration, boredom, etc and lead to a lack of participation on all fronts.

But I digress.
You sound like my SED professor. You're right on the money, and each kid learns differently. It's nigh impossible to get all of them to learn everything I'm teaching them all the time. I try to cater my lessons, but it's tough. It takes every ounce of my creativity to try and create a bevy of perfect lessons.
 
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2014-09-05 19:10:26
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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Not wanting to learn, whatever that's their own choice
The uninterest for the lessons can derive from many things though. From depression or other personal problems at home, to simple disregard for the subject at hand, to being too advanced for the level of teaching being offered in that class. All can lead to frustration, boredom, etc and lead to a lack of participation on all fronts.

But I digress.
And this is understandable. But, sometimes an educator can only do so much. And when it comes to things like being too advanced for a class, while part of the responsibility should fall on the teacher to make sure they're not teaching too far below the capabilities of their students it's also a bit on the students shoulders at that point to seek out classes, or request additional resources/lessons from their teachers to stimulate themselves. I can understand it at a younger age but these are high school students, they have a choice in their classes and more often than not know their abilities and needs.

Edit: Mmm, it's a strong possibility I'm thinking aggressively when I shouldn't right now...
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2014-09-05 19:10:41
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I used to argue with them all too but affectionately, feigning amazement and curiousity; I did it to affirm them and make them think I cared. Teachers drink up earnesty like it's the last drop of water in a dessert so they loved it. It worked enough to graduate at the top of the class too and I got the *** out of there ASAP lol

You need a clone of teenage me in each class mag to snarkily shout down the rowdys!
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-09-05 19:13:34
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I don't know what kind of interactions there are over there between teachers and students so I'll just speak in general from what would be possible here and I think would be good(but no one does cause the class is considered some kind of mixed jelly).
I think the lessons should definitely tackle what is the average level of the class as they can't be tailored for the individuals, however those who have trouble keeping up or situations like those mentioned earlier should probably be given some special care with i don't know, different assignments, projects or something like that to try to level the gap or keeping them interested depending on which side of the issue it is.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2014-09-05 19:22:42
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I don't know what kind of interactions there are over there between teachers and students so I'll just speak in general from what would be possible here and I think would be good(but no one does cause the class is considered some kind of mixed jelly).
I think the lessons should definitely tackle what is the average level of the class as they can't be tailored for the individuals, however those who have trouble keeping up or situations like those mentioned earlier should probably be given some special care with i don't know, different assignments, projects or something like that to try to level the gap or keeping them interested depending on which side of the issue it is.
That's what we in the biz refer to as "differentiation", and in our formal evaluations, that needs to be included in our lesson plans. Even after all that though, it's still difficult to engage students who don't want to engage. In that case, they are horses with water. I can't make them drink.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-09-05 19:23:20
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Doesn't help that many students see teachers as enemies too.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-05 19:24:01
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A lot of new teachers fail to realize that it isn't necessarily the content, but how the content is presented.

It needs to have energy and drive for students to learn, even at their own pace, or to find ways to kickstart the learning process, and speed it up.

I wasn't one to argue with a lot of my teachers, as I was one of the quiet students that ended up reading ahead, or was so far bored from the droning techniques used, that the only way to even connect with the curriculum content, was to reinvent it myself.

Try associating the content in a way that works with their everyday lives in a way that's easy enough to understand, but hard enough to become a legitimate challenge.

Or, do study sessions and mix your lowest grade students with the highest. Because they may connect better with their peers, and share that energy.
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2014-09-05 19:26:31
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »

Or, do study sessions and mix your lowest grade students with the highest. Because they may connect better with their peers, and share that energy.
This, so much this. When utilized works wonders. The biggest problem from it is making sure the students mesh well personality wise.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-09-05 19:28:21
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
mix your lowest grade students with the highest
Honestly I don't think this ever works well. It's only my own opinion but usually the better student feels annoyed to babysit one with difficulties, and the the other feels humiliated(a bit strong word but can't think of a better one atm)for being considered dumber than the others.
I understand encouraging teamwork but forcing it...I don't know.
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By Artemicion 2014-09-05 19:30:05
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This is a stupid question... but:

It's probably unwise to read/write data (ie: play games) while running an HDD test huh?
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-05 19:31:20
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True.

I found that those with a lot of energy, tend to retain information better when it's attributed to physical endeavors, or sports.

In that instance, their brains work just as hard as their bodies, if not more so. They tend to organize their thought patterns much more reliably.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2014-09-05 19:31:21
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The worst thing is when a teacher just spits out facts without explaining why/how/whatever it is how it is, or even can't explain it. Droning on with fact after fact is the most boring thing I can imagine in class.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-09-05 19:31:22
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Artemicion said: »
This is a stupid question... but:

It's probably unwise to read/write data (ie: play games) while running an HDD test huh?

I mean, it won't hurt anything. But don't expect the read/write to reach completion in any sort of reasonable time frame.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-05 19:32:55
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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mix your lowest grade students with the highest
Honestly I don't think this ever works well. It's only my own opinion but usually the better student feels annoyed to babysit one with difficulties, and the the other feels humiliated(a bit strong word but can't think of a better one atm)for being considered dumber than the others.
I understand encouraging teamwork but forcing it...I don't know.
This method is by far one of the greatest and most effective teaching tools there is, and has a much higher success rate than simply giving out paper work, that students would otherwise be far too afraid to ask for help in a large setting, and feeling singled out by doing so.

In the group study method, this effect is lessened by large degrees.
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
The worst thing is when a teacher just spits out facts without explaining why/how/whatever it is how it is, or even can't explain it. Droning on with fact after fact is the most boring thing I can imagine in class.
This is a failure of most history teachers -_- history can be a very interesting subject but it's incredible how tedious it can become with the wrong prof.
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By Artemicion 2014-09-05 19:33:38
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
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This is a stupid question... but:

It's probably unwise to read/write data (ie: play games) while running an HDD test huh?

I mean, it won't hurt anything. But don't expect the read/write to reach completion in any sort of reasonable time frame.

I can live with slow reads/writes, as long as it doesn't compromise the integrity of the test.

Pretty excited, I got my new 3TB seagate drive today.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-09-05 19:34:12
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HDDs are smart at multitasking, it'll just split its "bandwidth" between each concurrent action, slowing them down.
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
The worst thing is when a teacher just spits out facts without explaining why/how/whatever it is how it is, or even can't explain it. Droning on with fact after fact is the most boring thing I can imagine in class.
This is what blocks the majority of students from learning, as it dissuades most from learning to think critically of the content, or how to reach that conclusion.

What it also teaches, in a negative fashion, is that you are supposed to be spoon fed facts, and never question authority or subject matter, and take it as it is.
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By Asura.Vyre 2014-09-05 19:35:22
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I think I missed it, but what grade level are you teaching, Sexy Maggy-poo?
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By Artemicion 2014-09-05 19:37:44
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Though I'm stating the obvious: Long tests are long.

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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
This method is by far one of the greatest and most effective teaching tools there is
I disagree. But then again even the concept of class is different here from the US.
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It's actually a well documented global trend, that was originally taken from studies about how other cultures and education worked in the most positive ways.
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By Artemicion 2014-09-05 19:41:46
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Okay one more dumb question, this time FFXI related:

So with the September update heavily emphasizing on a dragoon's wyvern leveling up to further aid the performance of the DRG itself, how does one "level up" their wyvern in non trash-mob instances where it's just a walk in boss in a separate zone?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-09-05 19:42:24
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Spirit kink
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2014-09-05 19:42:33
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Asura.Vyre said: »
I think I missed it, but what grade level are you teaching, Sexy Maggy-poo?
I have Freshmen and Sophomores that failed English last year. That's my 9/10 Block, and that was the class where I had to kick out my two angels.

Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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The worst thing is when a teacher just spits out facts without explaining why/how/whatever it is how it is, or even can't explain it. Droning on with fact after fact is the most boring thing I can imagine in class.
This is a failure of most history teachers -_- history can be a very interesting subject but it's incredible how tedious it can become with the wrong prof.
I try to get my students working all the time, but there's a lot they can't do alone.
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Artemicion said: »
Okay one more dumb question, this time FFXI related:

So with the September update heavily emphasizing on a dragoon's wyvern leveling up to further aid the performance of the DRG itself, how does one "level up" their wyvern in non trash-mob instances where it's just a walk in boss in a separate zone?

Empathy merits. They'll give you Wyvern EXP for using Spirit Link. @ 4/5 empathy it should take 2 uses of spirit link to cap your rat
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