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 Bahamut.Dasva
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-06 15:46:23
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So as far as I can tell I've yet to get an archery ws to proc blue. Granted I haven't been paying attention for awhile especially pre-discernment.

But recently I fought shinryu twice and had it be archery and gone thru all 4 ws on wikis list 3-4 times all clean and no proc. Then I did Turul same thing but only could run thru them a little over twice before it died :(.

So anyone eles having some problems with archery blue procs? Tips? I can get everything else just fine from different color procs to doing it with different weapons. Someone suggested it might be some different delay with ranged ws but I do fine with marksminship...
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By Ramuh.Yarly 2011-02-06 15:51:12
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Shinryu is just hard to proc on. We had an earth ws reading for Ironclad Pulverizer not long ago. Had to earth crusher like 4 times before staggering it and all 4 of those ws looked clean to me.

Also, people have told me my ws missed (missed as in timing was off, not actual miss) when I was 100% sure it was clean.

gg lag
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By Diabolos.Sovereign 2011-02-06 15:55:50
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cant say I've ever experienced any issues, they just follow the same rules as every other stagger. Cant stagger during tp moves, cant stagger while casting, cant stagger during 2hrs. A few exceptions include mobs (like Ironclads) who cannot be staggered during a standard melee attack. Shinryu may fall into that category, I'm not sure.

Either way, only advice I can say is just keep trying.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-06 15:56:21
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Well on shinryu I've been specifically only count ones as clean as ones where he has pulled his arm back from his attack and that his next move is another normal attack and not spell/ws.

And turul... it casted all of about 2 spells and used 0 tp moves once I started doing archery ws and I was stunned thru one of those spells anyways.

Very annoying losing brews to this when I can proc everything else just fine. Like on shinryu I've yet to not get any other ws to proc the first time
 
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-06 16:08:10
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Shinryu is like Ironclad I think so, every hit is a TP move so you need to time it correctly and watch lag, but if you get a message from discernment then it went clean 100%.
Oh I know how shinryu works. I can proc anything else on him everytime barring him deciding to cast/ws right as I hit maccro. Like when it's dagger or marksmenship I do just fine. Red procs yep everytime. Just archery
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By Leviathan.Alkalinejoe 2011-02-06 16:36:37
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Maybe it's just glitches a lot. I've claimed Marvin once at 7:01 gametime and the blue !! proc was still club. Another person in my LS says the same thing happened to him on an Ironclad.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-06 16:44:24
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Oh no it's not about the game time. I have discernment and it is saying archery...
 
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-06 16:51:23
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Doesn't explain Turul though
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-02-06 17:23:20
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Seen plenty of em proc blue!
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-02-06 17:47:36
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Shinryu is like Ironclad I think so, every hit is a TP move so you need to time it correctly and watch lag, but if you get a message from discernment then it went clean 100%.

I'm pretty sure discernment can proc when the WS/spell is not clean.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-06 17:51:34
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Phoenix.Kirana said:
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Shinryu is like Ironclad I think so, every hit is a TP move so you need to time it correctly and watch lag, but if you get a message from discernment then it went clean 100%.
I'm pretty sure discernment can proc when the WS/spell is not clean.
You can do it all the time lol.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-02-06 18:20:25
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I haven't had any issues with archery. I bring my trusty level 1 bow with iron arrows ftw and I've gotten it every time it's been archery. Might just be lag. I do all my archery ws manually because I never use bow for anything so maybe that would help (rather than macro)?
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