Freezing Brew Timer

This post... is already something most people knew, displaying publicly isn't gonna win you any popularity prizes, but bring attention to it from the developers that this is something that now needs to be patched and/or the banning of people doing it.

It's kinda like finding a back exit to sneak into the movie theatre, the kids that do it keep hush hush about it, but then there's the one kid that does it and has to brag to everyone else about how they can get into the movie theatre for free. While all the original people /facepalm and kiss goodbye to their free movies ; ;

Wouldn't be surprised if it gets the same treatment as Boost eventually, wearing off when you talk to any NPC.

Except for this isn't new. It's been around and well known about since the start of the game. Hell, was even abused w/ smn burns saving 2hr for additional blood pacts.

yeah this is nothing new, thats just how it works with basically every buff since the inception of the game. It was never a big deal, since it's largest exploit was usually extending a flee timer. We used to do it all the time while camping Sandworm/Ixion against competition. We'd usually leave a PLD at the C.A., and he'd pop a pair of powder boots and then engage the NPC, effectively halting their timer. Then once a scanner found the HNM, he'd port out to the zone and already have flee up to reach the mob ahead of our competition. Worked real well until whoever we were camping against saw it and started doing it too lol

Either way, now that brews are out and this is becoming a common occurrence, it might be time to see if they can patch how this works. As if abyssea wasnt already easy enough... Of course, I guess there are still linkshells out there who take 4 brews to kill a single Rani, and still call it an accomplishment. So whatever...

What was the point of that? To save 1-2 seconds of the use of the powder boots?

A lot of times that 1-2 seconds made all the difference between getting a claim or losing it.

one more reason HNM was a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE concept.

Only time I can see this somewhat useful is trying to spam Rani's with an empyrean. Other than that, who the *** wastes 200k on things like Sobek, seriously?

Like Armageddon 2shotting rani XD

That's 1 too many! Also Charged whisker will do more!

Pretty much just to get the drops faster.

Oh Laffter, you brought me laughter indeed.

Wastes 200k lol? Apparently someone hasn't done a cruor burn yet. Can easily get 200k in 2 hours, probably less with more people. We were getting 100k an hour with just 3 of us, thf blu rdm. I agree that brewing sobek for the sake of killing him is fail, considering how easy he is, however, brewing him for the sake of saving time might actually be more efficient. If you have 6 people, that's 1200k cruor every 2 hours. If you kill 6 sobeks with 1 brew (if everyone has key items), then that's 36 sobeks you can potentially kill for every 2 hours of farming cruor. Even if you can only kill 3, which I think any job can do, that'd be 18 sobeks. Some jobs like BLU should have no trouble killing 6 though. I don't know, it seems like a good plan to me. I tried this on isgebind, using the taru npc that runs around near there. Was able to get 3 done on BLU. Probably could do more if I set EG as well as CW.

imo those 2 hours of farming cruor would be better served just killing *** Sobek. It's not as if it's a long fight, the longest part of the fight is procing !! but w/e people going to do what they feel is best

This is older than sin. People did this with powder boots and Sandworm/Ixion all the time.

That's why I was saying only if you were killing like 25 sobeks with that brew

So here's the irony of your entire plate of ***you spewed.
In your words, and your words exactly:

Yet, it would make sense to waste 2 hours to farm 200k?
Who gives birth to you people?

most people have a ton of cruor already. so they don't have to go out and farm just to brew. it's just a matter of spending so much time in abyssea you'll replenish any amount of cruor you'd use. considering a person could sit at conflux 7 and kill 9-10 sobeks with one brew. it's pretty worthwile. especially if you have a bunch of pops.

Ok, so kill/waste 9-10 sobek pops w/o grellow or take 5-10min longer per kill with a better outcome? Either way you STILL have to farm up more sets so there will always be downtime. Unless of course they're one of those people who still have 30 zombies in their linkshell using a point system to feed the elder heads.

Could do more... I think the real limiting factor is getting enough people with KIs than brew time if you got the right jobs ws etc. Everyone get tons of mules to 30 to help each other out!

Also some people are spamming sobek for their empyrean weapons so proccing blue isn't a big deal...

Yea, really, once you make enough empyreans for your group/ls, the +2 items of things like sobek/ciren-croin are just gonna rot at that time. Since b;ue/yellow doesnt matter for empyrean items, may as well blow them up asap once you have some th on.

Newer things like Isgebind, Apademak, alfard you may as well proc red/blue/yellow THEN blow them away till people get their items. Still, once procd, its more efficient to blow them up in 3-4 ws than to fight them for 5-10 minutes.

As a few have mentioned in the last couple posts, why not have a few people together to proc yellow then brew each one. Still doesn't take that long and gives you as much from it as a group doing it any other way assuming you dont need crap from red or blue. (which you could just add people and do anyway) Never need to waste it.

I don't see it as game breaker honestly.

i never said you can't proc yellow on sobek. my group has most +2's from sobek finished, so it's not really a big deal either way. the only bad thing about sobek and a brew is that he can still kill you. whether you brew it or not you will STILL always have to farm more pop items. i don't see how that's an argument. i personally don't think it's worth brewing it, but my friend who was 10 skins away from his kannagi did. nuff said.

People should learn to keep their mouths shut not every thing should be shared with people let them figure it out or hear word of mouth posting stuff like this is like saying look at this please fix it might as well use to your advantage other then spilling it in a thread good job people expect a update soon !!!

I finished 90 Ukon 2 weeks ago without using this exploit once. I'm mostly worried about gimps with no chance of completing an Empyrean weapon destroying this for everyone. As people start to spam everything using this it will become an issue and they will be forced to patch it.

1/22/09... Last time people 'hid' exploits like this, they BANNED a bunch of people. Risking your account over having a brew last a while doesnt seem worthwhile to me. :/

Also, why /wouldn't/ this be on the same level as the exploit? It's a massive glitch that allows you to have max HP/MP and Stats for only 3 minutes, but instead can make it last an hour? Even if you believe its not on the same level, its not you that matters when it comes to deciding whether or not. SE may not seem to be able to 'afford' banning more people, but they havent exactly made the best choices as of lately have they... D:

Fyi freezing a duplicating drops is to diffrent things.
I've personal never used it but what I'm saying is if it is put in game why not use it to your gaming advantage It not our Fault the SE didn't make it where we couldn't use it, but it's one of those things they should have thought of. Last i checked it's not the gamers job to find these and point it to the people they hire to do this job . Just a theory for the salvage one is some cry baby who couldn't get get help mythic. So they cried to a gm about something they over heard in spite of someone they proably disliked and SE decide wow we F*c%ed up and was so embarassed they decided to ban those who took advantage of their data mistake wasn't like they used a 3rd party program which half the FFXI user that play on computer use anyway. Imo was a d**k move to do

It's clearly stated in ToS that abuse of game mechanics can lead to temporary or permanent ban.

Yes, it's there and it makes things easier. In the end, when it becomes widespread, they're going to do something about it.

And don't forget, MMORPGs are always in beta, so it is, in fact, the players' "job" to report glitches.