Best Job?

PUP BEST JOB FTW!!!!!!

I knew you would claim that this body allows for 1 minute crit damage up but nope, it's 30 more second and 20% crit. It increases the damage therefore 15% of the time by ~15%

15% x 15% = 2.25%. Oh look I was right, side grade.

It also ups everyone elses damage and not just the war so im sure its going to do a lot more then you are giving it credit for

looking at bloodrage myself also makes me feel its absolute ***as well, sure it's aoe, but hey most typical DD's have near cap crit damage and an already high crit rate, as far as outside abyssea it's probably decent for the occasional party epeen dmg.

.............................What the hell is this?

in case you didnt get it "lolpup"

if you did i'll promptly stfu

60/300, or 1/5, is 15%. Brilliant.

Still waiting for you to prove WAR with no berserk caps attack on everything in the game.

since when pld is more useful than sch? idk why is listed in that list

lolbrd

what would pchan do if everyone blocked him

Talk to himself through another account

Someone new will always bite

(1) Ok for the third time you are an idiot. Blood rage is 30s and the body adds 30s so the body's contribution is only 30s. Stop acting like body less war can't use blood rage

(2) if you knew a bit about your job or game mech you would be able to do it.

8 + Combat Skill + 3STR/4 + (+attack from gear) + (+attack trait/ability/minuet)
=
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/195853

skill=361+16+7=384
STR=(base ~90)+47+(40+30 from atmas)=117
attack from gear&trait= 10 trait+79=89

total attack food less= 625
total attack red curry= 793

normal mobs ranging ~97 have around 420 def
attack caps at 2.2*420*0.85=785

Oh look you cap

Beserk 3/4 of the time : 0.75*793*1.25+0.25*793=941 on average


3/4 of the time any attack on gear pretty much is useless as you would be overkill by about 141 attack.
1/4 of the time you almost exactly cap attack, but this can also be done (fairly easily) with alternative gear.

In any case the attack on those gear serves no purpose.

Inbefore : trying to save face by assuming NMs have more def (while it's more level correction), inability to buy a 6k food, inability
to cast dia3, you are wrong pchan, butthurt, you don't play, etc..

In case someone followed this why COR is a fail job.

I wasnt aware COR only had Attack roll, lol.

All other suck balls

Been watching this thread for awhile now why are you still here,you have nothing better to do then just spam nonsense? More so when you no longer play i dont see your reasoning bud.

Edit MNK + WHM

Re: this thread
Almace/Ochain PLD.

i went over pchan's math and he is indeed correct so i will give him that much.

on the other hand shut the *** up pchan, chaos roll is one of the more useless rolls from cor, fighter's and allie's roll to name two are just a couple rolls that they SHOULD be using.

Just No. DA roll fails to put out damage allies roll is the most useless one I can think of. COR is useless get over it.

care to explain to me how 10-20% double attack rate increase fails to put out damage and my mistake i was thinking of regain roll which gives 3-5 tp/tic

It only took three or four tries to get him to put the numbers up, so thanks for that. Interesting read, at least.

Not every single group bothers to use brd/cor/rdm in a party. Given that RDM is basically dead weight in a slot without the ability to cast Cure 5 and by your own admission COR is a "useless" job, I'm not sure why you had to require one to cement WAR as not needing JAs.

Better, I'm not sure why you'd ask a bard to give minuets when double marches blow away the difference.

So, yes, your math is correct, albeit extremely situational. In a situation that no decent party would let happen, at that.

Good work, though, I guess. You proved your point by requiring the useless jobs you said had no purpose. Other than "foiling" my gear selection, I guess.

You're using an extremely long-winded "I'd rather hit harder, not faster" claim that idiots refusing to wear haste used. You do realize this, yes?

Putting Hastes in melee parties has long been a silly practice seeing as you can cast Haste on people who are not in your party.

Touche, durped and didn't think of that. My group hasn't used a RDM in ages.

Nowerdays in abyssea:
MNK + WHM 2
+(BRD if you need elemental resists) or NIN for extra tank / red !! 1
+ BLU/nin BLM/brd for grellow 2
+ WAR for red. 1

= 6/6 party

i havent really done the math for other jobs besides dnc but as far as dnc goes there is no longer a need for a brd in party for marches.

Pchan has it in her/his head that you can cap haste without marches so a brd should be giving attack songs instead.

Are you referring to hitting the attack delay cap using dual-wield gear and haste? Just curious.

yes and if you dont hit the cap, using even 1 march is not as effective as say.... minuet