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Best Job?
By Luz 2011-01-10 06:02:53
Unicorn.Marrs said: Areis said: Given Abyssea :
Monk & White Mage
Given anything non-abyssea...
yeah still Monk & White Mage
New content might a reason for the balance to change and it's not that in certain situations some things might benefit more. But in the be all end all when your questionnaire is tallied I can't see anything coming out on top over these two either.
Edit : Yeah Blu is versatile, but frankly if you have anything else leveled in any sort of group play... odds are you'll be asked to bring that instead, can do... and can do compared to anything else that does i think it falls by the wayside and it's versatility doesn't make up for lack of specialization in group play.
Why whm instead of rdm?
Cure4 only sucks
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 06:04:06
It's more fun to try and duo ***as neither MNK and WHM too.
BRD and SAM is a fun combo.
By Artemicion 2011-01-10 06:04:33
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 06:05:13
Artemicion said: I play what's fun!
Scandalous!
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 06:06:06
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Asura.Buddhsie said: I don't know about BLU being a bandwagon job, I'm yet to see any other BLU who's doing it right either (you're probably one of them, hence the criticism). Calling me a fanboy isn't going to make your argument any less stupid.
I am not mounting an argument at this movement, and nor will I be at this point in time. You just keep on covering all those bases and having uber DD boosts with your CDC. I don't need to mount an argument from anything I have read so far.
Shiva.Flionheart said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Asura.Buddhsie said: If there's anything I've proven through playing this game is that unorthodox jobs have the potential to be better than bandwagon jobs. And my opinion with how the game currently is is that blue mage is by a mile the job that fits the description of this thread, ignorant criticism aside. That's my answer for you.
Ignorant fanboys aside, BLU is in fact a bandwagon job now.
BLU was always a bandwagon job.
More so with abyssea out now.
I dunno, I remember there being a ton of fail BLU's on shiva, and everyone was levelling it. The only good BLU I've ever seen on Shiva is Duey lol.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-01-10 06:06:16
Every job is a bandwagon!
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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-01-10 06:06:21
Luz said: Unicorn.Marrs said: Areis said: Given Abyssea :
Monk & White Mage
Given anything non-abyssea...
yeah still Monk & White Mage
New content might a reason for the balance to change and it's not that in certain situations some things might benefit more. But in the be all end all when your questionnaire is tallied I can't see anything coming out on top over these two either.
Edit : Yeah Blu is versatile, but frankly if you have anything else leveled in any sort of group play... odds are you'll be asked to bring that instead, can do... and can do compared to anything else that does i think it falls by the wayside and it's versatility doesn't make up for lack of specialization in group play.
Why whm instead of rdm?
Cure4 only sucks
True, especially if you're dou'ing with a mnk like i was stating, simply because the % of hp healed with a monk on cure4 is going to be ridiculously low. I always thought regen should work on a specific % the hp of the person you cast it on has, but that would most likely create other problems.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-10 06:07:44
Sylph.Kimble said: Every job is a bandwagon!
Actually most jobs aren't lol.
imo of course.
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By Asura.Buddhsie 2011-01-10 06:08:35
I'd be happy to show you some time what BLU can do Spicyryan, I think you'd be surprised.
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By Caitsith.Marleysativa 2011-01-10 06:14:03
What context OP? For most of what I do it's always MNK, WHM, BLM, THF.
Depends on the people you do stuff with really.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-01-10 06:15:01
Thing is with most jobs, a lot of people get the idea it sucks just because a lot of people play the more popular jobs and dont play them well. Honestly, inside abyssea, Blu is a very good DD. But im never sure if you are just trolling or being serious.
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By Asura.Buddhsie 2011-01-10 06:15:55
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Asura.Buddhsie said: I'd be happy to show you some time what BLU can do Spicyryan, I think you'd be surprised. Oh, you little naive thing you.
Hah! Challenge accepted! I never get sick of making people feel insignificant!
I am kinda sad that DNC became a bandwagon job though :( I was humiliating DDs well before Abyssea came out ; ;
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By Caitsith.Marleysativa 2011-01-10 06:19:04
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Asura.Buddhsie said: Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Asura.Buddhsie said: I'd be happy to show you some time what BLU can do Spicyryan, I think you'd be surprised. Oh, you little naive thing you.
Hah! Challenge accepted! I never get sick of making people feel insignificant!
I am kinda sad that DNC became a bandwagon job though :( I was humiliating DDs well before Abyssea came out ; ;
Woooosh
*sigh*
Just give up dude, I'm pretty sure the ***they say is a job trait from the game that somehow translated to RL.
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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-01-10 06:27:49
Caitsith.Marleysativa said: What context OP? For most of what I do it's always MNK, WHM, BLM, THF.
Depends on the people you do stuff with really.
My point is these can all be part of the equation to decide as well, for example another 1 - 10 category could be necessity to a party/alliance/duo partner etc.
Like I said, I realize this is a complex question.
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By Caitsith.Marleysativa 2011-01-10 06:28:42
Lol, it's just that I hear it all the time. Most BLUs are horribad. While I know 2-3 pretty good ones, they don't have a specialized role and that hurts them. Maybe when we finish Chant for one of ours my opinion might change (DD-wise), but for now they seem to be of limited use.
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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-01-10 06:29:23
Unicorn.Marrs said: Caitsith.Marleysativa said: What context OP? For most of what I do it's always MNK, WHM, BLM, THF.
Depends on the people you do stuff with really.
My point is these can all be part of the equation to decide as well, for example another 1 - 10 category could be necessity to a party/alliance/duo partner etc.
Like I said, I realize this is a complex question.
Which blu would actually do good in as well, being that it could heal a partner is well. Seems like blu is doing fairly well in this thread no?
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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-01-10 06:29:41
I wish there was someone here to speak up on Pups behalf.
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By Artemicion 2011-01-10 06:30:34
DRG is the best cause they have spears, and dragons that breathe FIRE and stuff...
/child'slogic
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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-01-10 06:32:38
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Caitsith.Marleysativa said: Lol, it's just that I hear it all the time. Most BLUs are horribad. While I know 2-3 pretty good ones, they don't have a specialized role and that hurts them. Maybe when we finish Chant for one of ours my opinion might change (DD-wise), but for now they seem to be of limited use.
You forgot the part where most of the DD damage of a BLU comes from spells and not swordchucks. I am sure VV would help offset that a good amount though.
Whats the big deal if its magic based or not? Dmg output is dmg output. Sure some mobs are resistant to magic, but others can be easily susceptible and/or even strong against physical dmg.
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By Asura.Buddhsie 2011-01-10 06:33:43
I agree, it's not that blue mage is not a specialised job. It's more that blue mage can change to become a specialist in any aspect.
A complex question to say the least, simply because of what we can be talking about, dmg output, soloing, the necessity of having a healer, whats the mob etc...
But, if you had to decide which job would be the best to take to 90 (99, whatever), taking these things into account what would you say comes out with the most pros? For example consider a graph, a questionnaire of scale, 1 -10, one category is DMG output over speicified amount of time, one is the ability to Solo on a scale of 1 - 10 (which would most likely rest on the amount of mobs the job can take on as opposed to which can take on the least)
Of these categories, what job would you say comes out with the most points?
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