Arizona Congresswoman Shot At Public Event

It's really not funny when people reply to him at this point. All he does is disrupt on-topic discussion and it's just annoying.

Maybe some people want to read on the topic?

Perhaps you could stop trying to make cool posts so the troll doesn't have any reason to post?

you have too look at the whole picture when trying to link these things. The Idea that SP influanced the gunman is nothing more then a political tactic to remove SP from the picture. The poster pictured above is not designed to promote vilance, SP is a politican who appeals to gun owner's and outdoors men the idea of the cross hairs on the map are to continue to draw in those type of people nothing more. Obama himself used this same sytle of going after those he was most conected with for the votes, Pic's with Blackberrys in hand ect to appeal to young people. If the NRA was behind you giving you support and was one of the main infullance in providing you with a job in a time when jobs are hard to find you too might make a map with cross hairs to keep them screaming for more.

Funny, you say look at the whole picture, but totally disregard the correlation between the "targets" of her opposing candidates and the fact that she chose crosshairs to "appeal" to those eager to flaunt their second ammendment rights. The combination of the two is just disturbing, and frankly shouldn't have been so carelessly flaunted as part of her campaign symbolism.

The fact remains that the cause of the shown poster is the "targets" of her political opponents, and the symbol of choice to mark them were with reticules. In the fragility of being a political figure, that's just a big no no in Layman's terms.

I don't honestly believe Sarah Palin would wish harm upon anyone, however, as a political figure, you have to take a degree of responsibility for the actions of others due to her rhetoric. Both her and her affiliates need to simply be more careful with their choice of words and symbols to use within their campaign.

baised of your logic would you aggree that Obama should be held accountable for bring race into an election if a race crime was comment? The fact that this was taken down after the shooting shows it was never ment to insite vilance and you are trying too hard to connect the two this guy was crazy, SP was part of the government that tried to "control is mind" do you really believe someone like this would be infullanced bye someone who was "trying to control ther mind". Also noted SP is a big supporter of the christan relgion this guy was a big basher of it how can you say they are connected baised of 1 pic when so much points in the other direction...your no better then those who tried to connect Obama with Bill Airs and other ratical left your just on the other side point the finger back to those who done it.

All I'm saying is it was a slippery slope Palin was riding on with that poster. Regardless of its links or not to the assailant in Arizona. The fact that this happened simply brings it into light and a much more dire perspective. Whether it was or was not an indirect cause or had links to the shooter, there simply is correlation between what happened, and Palin's propaganda.

I believe everyone, regardless of your influential level should be responsible for what they sow, especially upon others.

Palin is a bit of a door tbh.

Mmm, Bristol Palin... I have nothing else to add to this thread.

P.S. Phyrexius forgot Tupac.

What proof is necessary?
The correlation is blatant.
Crosshairs pointing out Palin's political opponents.
Recent shooting of said opponent in said location of reticule.

More than enough to raise an eyebrow and a few flags at least.
That's of course not to say they are direct causes or direct links to each other, but simply are within remarkably similar territory.

Feel free to disagree, I'm simply pointing out the obvious, and frankly something worthy of concern.

Different thread.
I see no fault in my current logic.
And you haven't really given anything to discredit it either.

Though I will admit, what I say may be out of passion. This whole incident was rather upsetting, and it doesn't help that the news after a certain period of time no longer becomes informative but rather wallows in tragedy.

So you would agree that obama feels that americans are murders and whites are the blame just because he went to MR. Rights church correct? lol i can pull this connection out of thin air without proof just like you do the point is PROOF!!! bring it to the table, give me a statment from SP saying she ment for him to shoot her and ill agree with you. Ideas like this is why there is so many true innocent people in prison, she had a poster with the victims name on it months before the shooting lets lock her up because of what some idiot done.

@Artemicion

You should have your own raido and tv show...your just as good at pointing out fake connections as Glen Beck and Rush only diff between the 3 of you is you dont get paid for it.

I think you're missing my point.
I am simply pointing out that there is a connection, a correlation if you will; mutual relation between two separate things. That's not to say they are direct causes to each other or are specifically linked.

And within that point, I believe it was careless and risky of Palin to use something as obvious as crosshair reticules to pinpoint her political opponents as part of her campaign. Regardless of whether the shooter was linked to this, it remains something of great concern due to this whole incident. It simply brings it into perspective.

Aren't you a charmer?

Exactly.

Spicyryan, stop.

It was just a few pages ago that you said I was "in the ballpark" regarding the connection between Tea Party/Palin rhetoric/imagery and this Arizona gunman's murders.

After months of having you blocklisted, it's been nice to see your posts for a few days. I don't wanna have to toss you back in the basement.

Just stop.

If you do not find a direct cause between the 2 why do you bring in the SP issue on a thread for the shooting?

Because there's a similarity within her political ad and what happened.
Crosshairs <-> Shooter, Location <-> political "target". Do I really need to spell it out?

Palin is an idiot, Arizona outlawed being Mexican.

To most people she is the epitome of the common perception of the Tea Party movement that has been pushing this violent rhetoric so much in the last year? She even capitalizes on that with the poster.