Arizona Congresswoman Shot At Public Event

Stop feeding that troll and maybe he'll go away xD

Nobody is breaking any new ground calling him a nut job, it goes without saying anyway.

I'd agree... I'm convinced he truly believes all the ***he's constantly spouting off.. If he was just a troll, he'd have to be the most committed and determined troll of all time.

On topic, has anyone found a picture that shows the parts of her brain that were actually hit (like one of those 3-D computer generated models that shows a head and the path the bullet took)? I tried googling around for one, but to no avail.

Dude, a 34 year old should be slightly less delusional.

I haven't found any pictures yet but there's a little bit of information about where it hit on the net.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting - Source

Can't feed what isn't there.

I think the FBI heeded my advice and investigated him and his ramblings, lol.

nope, and freedom loving can never go too far.

It clearly has.

I disagree

So freedom is a concept exempt of zealotry?

indeed

Am I being trolled, or are you this naive?

freedom is the utmost importance, even more important than lives, you sir are not being trolled by any stretch of the meaning.

You even admitted there should be limits:
So you're either trolling or being an idiot.

You officially frighten me.

I don't know what's so frightening about that, wasn't the United States founded on the concept of Freedom is worth Loss of Life? We took on the greatest military power of the day over (an arguably distorted) sense of freedom, so certainly enough people were willing to die for it then.

It just seems to be a form of justification for yesterday's tragedy over something as vague as a concept, subjective under definition and purpose, especially when applied to something as complex as an entire country operating under a republic.

While you are correct, in the case of being under the vice of a tangible tyrant, freedom cost us many lives and we prevailed in the end.
However, when people begin making imaginary threats over something as simple as partisanship and enviably resort to violence, then there is a significant problem and this motto we've grown up on becomes rather counter productive.

Difficult to explain, but I hope you understand where I'm coming from.

It's the same reason why this "war on terror" bothers me. You're no longer fighting for a cause or some specific organization; you're attacking a concept, an idea that can't be specifically targeted or eliminated. I mean, during world war 2 we had young teenagers lying about their age so they could join the war effort. Because we had beyond a shadow of a doubt that we were fighting something that was 100% undoubtedly cruel and horrible. We knew we were on the right side. But around the time of vietnam, that focus or understanding of what we're fighting for became more vague and clouded, and became more and more questioned as to whether ulterior or political motives were the cogs turning the war and costing lives of thousands. Even now, fighting in the middle east has me wondering what we're really aiming for and whether or not it is ourselves that are no better or possibly operating under the likeness of the "terrorists" themselves.

I think the only right answer is the inability to answer. There's too much gray when it comes to the philosophy of true Freedom.

As long as there is society, there will never be absolute freedom.

indeed.

If one asks if I want to live not being free or die, I'd probably choose to live, however when it comes to such a thing as revoking rights it's a matter of living free or possibly dying, I'd rather live free than be crippled by fear of the unknown, just sayin'.

Of course there are limits for people who are shown to be dangerous or untrusted, ie: felons, crazies, retards but to make people do ore of the red tape just to buy a gun, especially if they already own some is just silly. The idea of banning guns is sillier. Especially when it comes to this particular event, quite frankly nothing in this event had anything to do with lack of gun control.

Also the level of red tape is and should be based upon what the said weapon is. (at least according to this one gun nut I was talking to a few weeks ago.)

Aye, it's a vague concept, and difficult to apply over an entire mass with varying points of view and fundamentals. Hence our hybrid democracy that operates under various forms of both socialism and capitalism within the shell of a republic. It's why we have partisanship. But for media rhetoric to be so loosely utilized, as illustrated by Palin's little facebook poster, it can have potentially harmful results on followers that take things too literally or seriously for their own good. It is an obligation and responsibility for political figures, regardless of party association to maintain a degree of moderation and balance in what they dish out to the public. It's also why I'm very upset over Sarah Palin's complete and utter lack of taking responsibility for her actions and indirect influence to what happened in Arizona.

clicky

nothing about that event had anything to do with gun control, no amount of gun control would have prevented it, the people who still wish to do harm still get guns, just letting you know.

I spoke nothing of guns or controlling them.
Just saying it's upsetting when high profile political figures can run their mouths to the public so loosely and avoid responsibility when those who may or may not be mentally stable take things too literally or out of context and decide to commit such acts as we saw this week.

To a degree, politicians should be responsible and own up to the cause and consequence of their rhetoric.

Gun control is as pointless as the "War" on drugs. Government boondoggles, nothing more.

I think because pretty much the foundation of American values nowadays is on Envy and Greed, we are prone to violence. But I lost all faith in mankind the day I learned to masturbate (Unrelated though), so my bar is set really low.

still freedoms don't really have to do with what happened yesterday, not much of the political right have an accurate concept of their actual freedoms or rights, but as for Sarah Palin and the like, they do indeed lead a mass of idiots, it's not surprising this happened at all. As for punishing them for indirectly causing it, I have mixed feelings on and don't really have an answer.

To equal it out some leftist nut should off Palin, that'd be fair, no?

some people just can't handle the truth man

indeed on the first part, and on the second part sadly it's true.

I (and I'm going to assume everyone else here, or at least I would hope) wish we lived in a world where nobody wanted to kill each other, poverty and hunger and weapons were gone, but everyone likes to dream that just isn't this world. Working towards it is fine but you have to be a realist when it comes to it not an optimistic fool.