Spellcast And Hp Buff
Spellcast and Hp buff
I 'try' to use a sorc ring in abyssea, and have my convert gear set for my precast, is there any way to cancel the hp cruor buff also when equipping latent gear?
You can, but it doesn't do you any good for Sorc Ring. Only rings with "true yellow hp" latent work by canceling cruor buffs (Minstrel's, etc). You still have to go by your non-buffed hp for Sorc Ring when calculating your latent hp.
I know, that is why I want to use spellcast to click off the hp buff, while still using my latent gear.
using sorc ring in abyssea is pretty shitty imo since things usually hit for more hp than you have.
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sup tavjon
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If you are concerned with the HP buff in aybssea messing up your sorc swap set, I would highly reocmmend you find a new swap set, or tweak it. Even having like 1600 HP in abyssea on my BLM, I have yet to have an issue getting my set to do its job. If there is another issue with that buff, I apologize, and please elaborate on it. Also, if its an issue on convert, its over my head, as I have never had an issue with that in abyssea either.
Sorc ring goes by your base hp, so let's say your latent hp is 750/1000... even in abyssea it will be 750, (I.e750/1600).
Cancel plugin. Find the ID for the buff, and use spellcast to run the cancel plugin.
Here's an example of how I've used it:
<if spell="Utsusemi: Ichi">
<if advanced='$defcast = 1'>
<action type="equip" when="Precast" setgroup="pld_nin" set="UtsuIchiShield" />
<action type="equip" when="Midcast" setgroup="pld_nin" set="UtsuIchiShield_Hands" />
<action type="command" when="aftercast">wait 5;spellcast var set defcast 0</action>
</if>
<if advanced='$nocancel = 0'>
<if advanced='$defcast = 0'>
<action type="equip" when="Precast" setgroup="pld_nin" set="UtsuIchi" />
</if>
<action Type="Var" cmd="set nocancel 1"/>
<action type="midcastdelay" delay="2.7" />
<action type="Command" when="midcast">
cancel 66;
</action>
</if>
<action type="command" when="aftercast">wait 5;spellcast var set nocancel 0</action>
</if>
Here's an example of how I've used it:
Quote:
<if spell="Utsusemi: Ichi">
<if advanced='$defcast = 1'>
<action type="equip" when="Precast" setgroup="pld_nin" set="UtsuIchiShield" />
<action type="equip" when="Midcast" setgroup="pld_nin" set="UtsuIchiShield_Hands" />
<action type="command" when="aftercast">wait 5;spellcast var set defcast 0</action>
</if>
<if advanced='$nocancel = 0'>
<if advanced='$defcast = 0'>
<action type="equip" when="Precast" setgroup="pld_nin" set="UtsuIchi" />
</if>
<action Type="Var" cmd="set nocancel 1"/>
<action type="midcastdelay" delay="2.7" />
<action type="Command" when="midcast">
cancel 66;
</action>
</if>
<action type="command" when="aftercast">wait 5;spellcast var set nocancel 0</action>
</if>
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Cerberus.Trixta said:
Sorc ring goes by your base hp, so let's say your latent hp is 750/1000... even in abyssea it will be 750, (I.e750/1600).
Are you sure? >_>
If so, is it the same thing for ugga pendant?
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Cerberus.Trixta said:
Sorc ring goes by your base hp, so let's say your latent hp is 750/1000... even in abyssea it will be 750, (I.e750/1600).
Are you sure? >_>
If so, is it the same thing for ugga pendant?
For uggly:
Active while MP is less than 51%. This is calculated at the completion of the spell and only includes MP bonuses from visible equipment (Head, Body, Hands, Legs, and Feet) and merits. "Convert HP to MP" effects are not included in this calculation.
And yeah, both sorc ring and conjurer's ring ignore +% gear and buffs which I believe is what the cruor HP buff is, similar to giant's drink in besieged which doesnt affect your base hp maximum
Ok well just went out to test the sorc ring, and to say the least I feel like the biggest noob ever.
Could just as well have been nuking without a second ring >_>
Could just as well have been nuking without a second ring >_>
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Ok well just went out to test the sorc ring, and to say the least I feel like the biggest noob ever.
Could just as well have been nuking without a second ring >_>
Could just as well have been nuking without a second ring >_>
Lol I was like that with SMN and conjurer's ring latent, took me a bit to realise it wasn't working unless I was at true <76% HP
Just cancel HP buff, and if you are complaining about getting one shotted, or killed in 2 hits you need to l2blm.
Shiva.Matsuro said:
Just cancel HP buff, and if you are complaining about getting one shotted, or killed in 2 hits you need to l2blm.
Having 30% HP when you -ga/ja kill groups of mobs is cool
I stopped using my latent rings for all my jobs in abyssea, just not worth it considering the need to have a large hp pool for most things.
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Cerberus.Eanae said:
Cancel plugin. Find the ID for the buff, and use spellcast to run the cancel plugin.
Here's an example of how I've used it:
<if spell="Utsusemi: Ichi">
<if advanced='$defcast = 1'>
<action type="equip" when="Precast" setgroup="pld_nin" set="UtsuIchiShield" />
<action type="equip" when="Midcast" setgroup="pld_nin" set="UtsuIchiShield_Hands" />
<action type="command" when="aftercast">wait 5;spellcast var set defcast 0</action>
</if>
<if advanced='$nocancel = 0'>
<if advanced='$defcast = 0'>
<action type="equip" when="Precast" setgroup="pld_nin" set="UtsuIchi" />
</if>
<action Type="Var" cmd="set nocancel 1"/>
<action type="midcastdelay" delay="2.7" />
<action type="Command" when="midcast">
cancel 66;
</action>
</if>
<action type="command" when="aftercast">wait 5;spellcast var set nocancel 0</action>
</if>
Here's an example of how I've used it:
Quote:
<if spell="Utsusemi: Ichi">
<if advanced='$defcast = 1'>
<action type="equip" when="Precast" setgroup="pld_nin" set="UtsuIchiShield" />
<action type="equip" when="Midcast" setgroup="pld_nin" set="UtsuIchiShield_Hands" />
<action type="command" when="aftercast">wait 5;spellcast var set defcast 0</action>
</if>
<if advanced='$nocancel = 0'>
<if advanced='$defcast = 0'>
<action type="equip" when="Precast" setgroup="pld_nin" set="UtsuIchi" />
</if>
<action Type="Var" cmd="set nocancel 1"/>
<action type="midcastdelay" delay="2.7" />
<action type="Command" when="midcast">
cancel 66;
</action>
</if>
<action type="command" when="aftercast">wait 5;spellcast var set nocancel 0</action>
</if>
Come to the aid of a fatty? Lol thanks bud.
Solution is dont use sorc ring. Honestly you want to lost over 65% of your HP for 10 MAB???
How about getting the proper atmas that add will give you well over 100 MAB if you really wanted than tell me 10 MAB is a big deal.
How about getting the proper atmas that add will give you well over 100 MAB if you really wanted than tell me 10 MAB is a big deal.
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Shiva.Matsuro said:
Just cancel HP buff, and if you are complaining about getting one shotted, or killed in 2 hits you need to l2blm.
So you're telling me if SE added 2 rings and you had to wear one on blm:
Lvl 90 Ring HP +1400
Lvl 90 Ring +10 MAB
You'd choose the second one?
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If a BLM has 2 HP, that's 1 more than it needs.
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Bismarck.Maxse said:
Shiva.Matsuro said:
Just cancel HP buff, and if you are complaining about getting one shotted, or killed in 2 hits you need to l2blm.
Lvl 90 Ring HP +1400
Lvl 90 Ring +10 MAB
You'd choose the second one?
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Shiva.Matsuro said:
Just cancel HP buff, and if you are complaining about getting one shotted, or killed in 2 hits you need to l2blm.
So you're telling me if SE added 2 rings and you had to wear one on blm:
Lvl 90 Ring HP +1400
Lvl 90 Ring +10 MAB
You'd choose the second one?
Yes I would, any good DD that knows their place does their best to do the greatest possible damage without taking hate, BLMs should not need any HP+ since the idea is to do maximize damage over time.
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Shiva.Matsuro said:
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Shiva.Matsuro said:
Just cancel HP buff, and if you are complaining about getting one shotted, or killed in 2 hits you need to l2blm.
So you're telling me if SE added 2 rings and you had to wear one on blm:
Lvl 90 Ring HP +1400
Lvl 90 Ring +10 MAB
You'd choose the second one?
Yes I would, any good DD that knows their place does their best to do the greatest possible damage without taking hate, BLMs should not need any HP+ since the idea is to do maximize damage over time.
and I bet you anything I can do more damage than you while having 2.5k hp, I can get hate in 1-2 nukes If I want 10 MAB is nothing.
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Bismarck.Maxse said:
and I bet you anything I can do more damage than you while having 2.5k hp
That's some nice HP build/atma you got there for nuking on BLM
Siren.Kunimatsu said:
Bismarck.Maxse said:
and I bet you anything I can do more damage than you while having 2.5k hp
That's some nice HP build/atma you got there for nuking on BLM
Im not using HP atmas that would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE but i have 5 abyssites of merit.
It would be absolutly HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE to not only not take that 70% hp buff but to also lower your base hp another 24% all for 10 MAB?????
If I want full dmaage atma of ultimate atma of beyond atma of MM that's 50 int 80 MAB 110 MAB if ice...
Ya let me lose a ***ton of hp for 10 MAB that makes sense!
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Siren.Kunimatsu said:
Bismarck.Maxse said:
and I bet you anything I can do more damage than you while having 2.5k hp
That's some nice HP build/atma you got there for nuking on BLM
Im not using HP atmas that would be HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE but i have 5 abyssites of merit.
It would be absolutly HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE to not only not take that 70% hp buff but to also lower your base hp another 24% all for 10 MAB?????
If I want full dmaage atma of ultimate atma of beyond atma of MM that's 50 int 80 MAB 110 MAB if ice...
Ya let me lose a ***ton of hp for 10 MAB that makes sense!
cause its really that big of a deal yo
I don't really see what all the fuss is about considering most of the time Blms are only used for Grellow and by the time the mob is ready to be seriously damaged they'd get about 1-2 nukes off before the thing is dead from melee damage (unless your LS is derping the mob). Who cares if you have 300 Hp or 3000 Hp majority of the time taking hate isn't an issue, and if it is you're doing your job wrong. Also Enmity Douse and or Gnostic's drink are really nice things.
I solo a lot of ***on SMN while keeping conjurer's ring active, which is ~756HP and I have no trouble, even when avatars are down and i'm the one kiting, I can kite ironclads/aggressor antlion and never come close to getting killed.
Kiting/shadows/stoneskin, so much better than standing there with an abundance of HP while willingly lowering your performance/damage.
Sure you have all that MAB from atmas etc, but in my opinion you're still lowering your potential by not having sorc ring on top of that.
Kiting/shadows/stoneskin, so much better than standing there with an abundance of HP while willingly lowering your performance/damage.
Sure you have all that MAB from atmas etc, but in my opinion you're still lowering your potential by not having sorc ring on top of that.
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Siren.Kunimatsu said:
I solo a lot of ***on SMN while keeping conjurer's ring active, which is ~756HP and I have no trouble, even when avatars are down and i'm the one kiting, I can kite ironclads/aggressor antlion and never come close to getting killed.
Kiting/shadows/stoneskin, so much better than standing there with an abundance of HP while willingly lowering your performance/damage.
Sure you have all that MAB from atmas etc, but in my opinion you're still lowering your potential by not having sorc ring on top of that.
Kiting/shadows/stoneskin, so much better than standing there with an abundance of HP while willingly lowering your performance/damage.
Sure you have all that MAB from atmas etc, but in my opinion you're still lowering your potential by not having sorc ring on top of that.
It's like no one's ever heard of Blink/Stoneskin/Mana Wall/all the other things we're allowed to use to keep ourselves alive when Hp is low/we're in doodoo water.
Siren.Kunimatsu said:
I solo a lot of ***on SMN while keeping conjurer's ring active, which is ~756HP and I have no trouble, even when avatars are down and i'm the one kiting, I can kite ironclads/aggressor antlion and never come close to getting killed.
Kiting/shadows/stoneskin, so much better than standing there with an abundance of HP while willingly lowering your performance/damage.
Sure you have all that MAB from atmas etc, but in my opinion you're still lowering your potential by not having sorc ring on top of that.
Kiting/shadows/stoneskin, so much better than standing there with an abundance of HP while willingly lowering your performance/damage.
Sure you have all that MAB from atmas etc, but in my opinion you're still lowering your potential by not having sorc ring on top of that.
Mp is definitely a none issue in abyssea if you need that +1 mp a tick you have far bigger problems like getting proper atmas sounds to me like you dont have MM.
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