Blade: Hi WS Set.

I thought that at first too but I'm not that big on a 10% counter even with +2 legs and putting on yonin. Call me a half *** ninja, meh I guess. But yeah it does seem weird but IDK it just works out for me. When your evasion fails and goes through your shadows the overall bonus isn't that high imo. I never see myself counter but once in a great while. It's never saved my *** ; ;. Ik the numbers and stats, and doing what I am doing is lolnin but yeah..

Why didn't you accept my MSN invite. :(

My job preferences are 1THF 2NIN 3MNK. Because a month ago I thought that Glavoid was gonna be too tough a hurdle to jump I settled and made the Daka+2 (which I now sorta regret). Just going down the line I thought that the Kannogi was pretty easy to complete and I had a friend making an Almace so we decided to do it together as to alleviate some boredom by having more people there. Once I have finished the Sobek Skins I plan on either re-vising the dagger and doing Glavoid/Itzapapalotl or just being happy with the NQ and moving on to MNK. (would probably go with the vera's)

I never use MSN give me a min.

lol you plan on doing chloris over glavoid? Have fun with that. While I will agree that Vh2h is better than twasher, if you thought your main job wasn't worth going through tahrongi canyon... wtf why mnk your 3rd?

NIN's my secondary job too lol

Chloris is a joke, been duoing it with friend to get his weapon as well as Glavoid. Both are jokes to any well geared/skilled players.

Never said that.. I'm saying look at chloris pop nm chart.. look at glavoid pop nm chart.. Give me glavoid > chloris. Plus like I said.. his main is thf.. yet he didn't think it worthy enough to get twatwasher.. but his mnk is 3rd and getting Vh2h. Plus more people camp chloris than they do glavoid making it harder still to get pops. I've duo'd chloris many a times as whm/rdm mnk/nin. It's not hard you get unlucky though sometimes with a doom not coming off. But even weakend you can hold his *** till your mnk comes back up.

Chloris over Glavoid only because my first fight with glavoid was not very pretty (musta had a bad experiance) and at the time I thought it was too much for me to handle. After a few months of abyssea it really doesnt seem like too much to do so I'll have to go back and rework some stuff. Ya chloris isnt going to be easy but the quality of the HQ empyreans is so much superiar to their WoE counterparts that its really no question.
Why do I enjoy ninja more than monk? I'm not too sure how to answer that~ definatly been having more fun last few months in abyssea on MNK but before that I only really pulled out the MNK for salvage. Since abyssea my Jin's were doing much better damage than my Ascetic's Fury so that may be a reason. . . and that I generally have a RDM to come heal me and ninja seems a better tanking option when accompanied by a RDM.

Easy enough spend 30 mins cap all light, war and rdm farm gold chest, while nin and whm farm non chest NM which is only one. start farming other NMs as other 2 of 6 man get there full pops. have them run over to pop non KI chest NM then run away while you finish it off. takes about 2 hours or less for 6 full pop sets.

But yes still compared to some others it is a pain.

You can get all the Tahrongi KIs from chests...

Pretty sure MNK/WAR could tank Chloris weakened lol, such a joke.

mnk > nin tanking most situations. But yeah nin is a nice tank in abyssea as well. Like dragua... give me a mnk over nin on that ***. Just kills it so much faster.

No way, I have monk and Nin, Well played smart nin > then well played smart mnk...

Problem is not many well played, even if they do have the gear.

LOL have you tried that low man? It doesn't help.. even with a full alliance like we did.. we still had to go and farm the nms as well. Some times you get lucky but most times you don't. Unless you are farming both glavoid and Chloris it doesn't really work out as well.





Ik this but have you done that? especially low man

We have no issue with it. KI drop like candy if you are fast to cap lights. but we also in 6 man trade off to run around doing KI NMs also, and each have checklist out saying who needs what and next.

MNK is vastly superior as a tank for many situations just because it's going to do more damage. Even MNK/WAR makes for a very safe tank just because of Counterstance and the additional damage from all those counters certainly doesn't hurt. I'd happily take a NIN for NMs like Azdaja and Indrik though, where the extra safety actually matters.

In our ls.. we have a one of the better nins on the server. And one of the better mnks on the server. Our mnk still kills ***quicker. The nin did catch up in dmg once got blade:hi even still.. once mnk got Vh2h it wasn't a contest again. While Macone is a good *** nin and I will take him on anything tank wise ninja, Amano does kill ***quicker on mnk. In general mnks kill quicker if both are skilled at job and both geared well.

lol go and take what I said and break it down technically. I wasn't gonna say all that as it should be common sense :p

quicker kill but also more likely to die when fighting finesse style fights. IE glavoid.

Also worth mentioning: depending on what type of procs you need to get out of the NM you may prefer a NIN or MNK. MNK can get you all those blue during blunt~ where as NIN can get you a good portion of red when you KI farming. ***gets situational~

I wasn't responding to you, and I wasn't discussing the efficiency of chest farming for KIs in Tahrongi. We did farm a Verethragna and Ukonvasara back in January though, generally with only 3-4 people.

Lol 1 word... LUCK... again we had an alliance and we capped out lights even had like 100 (yes IK that really doesn't matter about the 100 lights) amber.. still were not getting ki's a lot of times. The best bet is to farm NM's while having a FC burn going on. It also helps to even buy pops if you got the gil. Either way that ***is luck even if you have all 3 abyssites for that ***like we all did.

What about Glavoid requires finesse? Don't heal it, Stun Disgorge, collect win. WAR + WHM can duo Glavoid, ffs.

we use Mnk/War, Nin/War, War/Sam, Whm/Rdm, Blm/Brd, Blu,War

For Nms,

Blm/Brd, changes to Rdm/Whm for KI farming days, since we only event 3 hour max we do one day fully farm as many KI as we can, next day pop NM and mercenary.

So normally we will 50% NM red trigger, then do the 10-30 sec burn down. depending on NM

Np misunderstood

I'd still rather have a mnk. You can always have a war and mnk and nin there as well. That takes care of that problem.

How is glavoid finesse? Glavoid goes down like a sack of potatoes... he's weak as ***.. the only thing that will hurt ya is his 1 tp move... but even still if you are smart.. he won't do that much dmg. have a blm there to stun. With mnk subtle blow ja's he won't tp fast enough to get another tp move off before stun is off. Lol even have mnk/dnc to stun if you absolutely have to.

I love your comments Sooo much sometimes, being you dont have war or whm (*^.^*).

But you dont even have to stun it, Use Bar spells atma and songs, which is over kill.

Are you seriously trying to say that just because I don't have those jobs means I don't know what I'm talking about? Conceptual thinking is hard bro. So is watching my lsmate finish 2boxing it as I enter the zone, or reading how Cairbear and Shikiyo on Levi did it for Cair's Ukon. And there's no way I have access to other characters...

Ignore him. Let him go use his Afflictors and WS in an Epona's on his WAR. Lol.

Naw just another bandwagon player hitting the scene, with your come at me bros and non sense. No real end game gear to speak of, maybe some abyssea pieces, I guess that is cool. Not even a blu or Nin abyseea weapon. IDK, I solo'd my kannagi in about 2 weeks. Cuase abyssea is a joke.

So i dont disagree with you there, but you are still talking out your ars. I have fought those NM many time making weapons for people. And you can just toss monk 2 hours at everything with meds and whm.

Well you can and I iwll be there to laugh at you when you wipe and claim that pop as you lay face in dirt ;)

You just lost all credibility ... lol cause playing a job is hard to understand yo! Lol I have nin and whm.. and my buddy is mnk who I duo with all the time.. So plus telling night he doesn't know (from what I can tell I'd prolly take his word seriously even if it was pup), due to the info he gives is based off facts. I don't get what you are trying to even pull with that comment. You sound like you lvl'd your job from brady guides with that kind of talk

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