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By Kujata.Thud 2010-12-20 07:53:48
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hot damn... sadly we have limited access to MAB gear. Only thing I really see worthwile is Novio over a STR earring.
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By Diabolos.Cloudg 2010-12-20 09:57:45
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so I guess i believe it, yes I know its a demon mob,

mob was IT had berserk Warcry Hasso Stalwart's and Ascetic's,
baying moon, ultimate, VV Atmas

i was using Warding Circle when it was up but forgot about that Hamanoha JA,

I can't seem to keep any consistency however, now and then I'd spike like 6k which seems to be my averaged-high dmg, and it went as low as 1.7 with the same buffs / drinks.

I really don't know where the 10k come from.

Edit: used my fudo set, which has haub+1 cause I can't find/make a byrnie +1 ._.
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2010-12-20 10:48:24
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Lol time to take advantage while you can!
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2010-12-20 11:08:49
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Fenrir.Gradd said:
What the hell is up with Koki? I tried testing this out with Herculean slash I was only able to hit 1.4k using a stronger Atma combo, VV, Atma of the Beyond(30 MAB and Ice MAB), and Ultimate.

What about infernal scythe? It would be nice to couple all the MAB gear we can use with these atma if it would work. I'm at work atm or I'd test myself.
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2010-12-20 11:32:27
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Ragnarok.Ashman said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
What the hell is up with Koki? I tried testing this out with Herculean slash I was only able to hit 1.4k using a stronger Atma combo, VV, Atma of the Beyond(30 MAB and Ice MAB), and Ultimate.

What about infernal scythe? It would be nice to couple all the MAB gear we can use with these atma if it would work. I'm at work atm or I'd test myself.

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Fenrir.Gradd said:
Also did infernal scythe barley scraped 1k, although I didnt test out Shadow of Death but I doubt SoD would do anything ground breaking.

oh and Hi ash <3
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2010-12-20 11:33:58
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Ragnarok.Erikthecleric said:
Ragnarok.Ashman said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
What the hell is up with Koki? I tried testing this out with Herculean slash I was only able to hit 1.4k using a stronger Atma combo, VV, Atma of the Beyond(30 MAB and Ice MAB), and Ultimate.

What about infernal scythe? It would be nice to couple all the MAB gear we can use with these atma if it would work. I'm at work atm or I'd test myself.

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Fenrir.Gradd said:
Also did infernal scythe barley scraped 1k, although I didnt test out Shadow of Death but I doubt SoD would do anything ground breaking.

oh and Hi ash <3

Watch Gale Axe break 3k or some ***and DRK still might be stuck with Axes ;X
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-12-20 11:35:19
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Next update DRK gets the most groundbreaking JT ever.....I wouldn't doubt it, though. >_>
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2010-12-20 11:35:38
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Fenrir.Skarwind said:
Ragnarok.Erikthecleric said:
Ragnarok.Ashman said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
What the hell is up with Koki? I tried testing this out with Herculean slash I was only able to hit 1.4k using a stronger Atma combo, VV, Atma of the Beyond(30 MAB and Ice MAB), and Ultimate.

What about infernal scythe? It would be nice to couple all the MAB gear we can use with these atma if it would work. I'm at work atm or I'd test myself.

^
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Also did infernal scythe barley scraped 1k, although I didnt test out Shadow of Death but I doubt SoD would do anything ground breaking.

oh and Hi ash <3



Watch Gale Axe break 3k or some ***and DRK still might be stuck with Axes ;X

...Wonder if Axe/multihit (lookin at u kraken (lol accuracy in abyssea)) with Gale Axe would be worthwhile
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2010-12-20 11:37:20
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Ragnarok.Erikthecleric said:
Fenrir.Skarwind said:
Ragnarok.Erikthecleric said:
Ragnarok.Ashman said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
What the hell is up with Koki? I tried testing this out with Herculean slash I was only able to hit 1.4k using a stronger Atma combo, VV, Atma of the Beyond(30 MAB and Ice MAB), and Ultimate.

What about infernal scythe? It would be nice to couple all the MAB gear we can use with these atma if it would work. I'm at work atm or I'd test myself.

^
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Also did infernal scythe barley scraped 1k, although I didnt test out Shadow of Death but I doubt SoD would do anything ground breaking.

oh and Hi ash <3



Watch Gale Axe break 3k or some ***and DRK still might be stuck with Axes ;X

...Wonder if Axe/multihit (lookin at u kraken (lol accuracy in abyssea)) with Gale Axe would be worthwhile

Level bst, get primal rend :D
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-12-20 11:42:17
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y'all *** want to use MAB atmas for DRK.


not my screenshots.
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2010-12-20 11:47:04
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now if only drk could do that 100% of the time, it would be awesome.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2010-12-20 14:01:23
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I tried trueflight out just for kicks with holy mountain, ultimate, and baying moon and it only did 1700ish. I'm guessing sam ws are just bugged atm because it doesn't make much sense to me. Crappy trueflight did more damage than jinpu outside abyssea, but inside jinpu does more? Maybe because of the str mod.

Also what does that DRK screenshot have anything to do with this thread? Showing off crappy catastrophe lol?
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2010-12-20 14:07:36
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Didn't Oblit say Baying moon, Ultimate and Griffon claw Atmas in his screenshots?

edit: How much was he hitting for on his TP Hits?
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By Unicorn.Tarowyn 2010-12-20 14:14:38
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
Apparently its not a hybrid, I tried looking up other WS is SAM the only job with a "Hybrid" Elemental WS?
Not sure maybe. Idk look up elemental ws and see which ones stack with SA?
NIN gets some hybrid ws'es too (Chi, Teki, To off the top of my head) and I guess lolflamingarrow is too.

Apparently the way these ws's work is that base dmg is calculated as a normal physical ws and than a % of that is tacked on as magic dmg depending on tp (50%/75%/100% at 100/200/300 according to gobli) and then MAB affects that latter magical dmg only.

And jinpu at least was always good against stuff that you could cap atk on and wouldn't resist the magic dmg. Did much better dmg than YGK back when I used to do eldieme escort a lot, hehe.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2010-12-20 16:39:33
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Friend of mine just went out did this on birds, Atma of the Beyond 30 MAB 30 Light MAB, and Atma of the Ultimate, barley scraped 1k with Koki and Jinpu, is this some giant troll attempt, coordinated between all the people who can buy 200k Brew now?

Beyond is technically better than Baying moon unless I am missing something that Baying moon does that makes it spike that high.

So whats up?
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2010-12-20 16:47:06
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I think he had Griffon's Claw also

edit: by he I mean Oblit
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2010-12-20 16:50:01
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
I think he had Griffon's Claw also

Atma of the Beyond

Orly

"Magic Atk. Bonus":Major, Resist Vs. IceAttack+:Major, Resist Vs. LightAttack+:Major.
Increases Magic Attack Bonus by 30, Ice Magic Attack by 30, and Light Magic Attack by 30.

Edit:

Nice ninja edit of your post!!!
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2010-12-20 16:54:15
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lol, thanks, for some reason I keep mixing that up with Minikin Monstrosity...must be me using both of those on SMN as of late...

But yeah, has he tried Griffon's Claw?
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2010-12-20 16:57:37
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
lol, thanks, for some reason I keep mixing that up with Minikin Monstrosity...must be me using both of those on SMN as of late...

But yeah, have you tried Griffon's Claw?

Griffon's claw is only a 20% boost, at most its going to add 200 Damage to a 1k Koki, not 4k more damage..........
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2010-12-20 17:01:38
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Hmmm, touche. Now I AM starting to think it's a brew troll.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2010-12-20 17:04:43
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Hmmm, touche. Now I AM starting to think it's a brew troll.

It has to be unless I am missing something, my LS will be doing baying moon tonight before we gold chest farm Latheine, if I dont get good numbers then yea its a Brew troll attempt.

Friend of mine that tested it for me is a very well geared SAM Altho I doubt standard gear matters much for a MAB based Weaponskill.

Edit:

Also cant find anything about it on BG, altho BG is a giant cluster *** and I have trouble finding stuff there period.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2010-12-20 17:19:29
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Cloudg's post looks plausible however, barring the inconsistency of the WS Damage. I believe it was mentioned that Weapon DMG had a part in the whole thing. I do trust either you or your LS member have a Masamune already though, so that's moot either way...so either it's gotta be brew or it's something totally not mentioned.

Edit: I just remembered the heroes areas mobs change difficulty according to dominion statistics, So he might've gotten lucky on an EM or something
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2010-12-20 17:19:32
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Attack/STR/MATK all seem to boost these weaponskills. I broke about 2k on a DC Tonberry. that was with a double attack proc.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2010-12-20 17:22:13
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Cloudg's post looks plausible however, barring the inconsistency of the WS Damage. I believe it was mentioned that Weapon DMG had a part in the whole thing. I do trust either you or your LS member have a Masamune already though, so that's moot either way...so either it's gotta be brew or it's something totally not mentioned.

No Masamunes in my LS but ill have my Amano SAM try it out w/e he logs in, pretty sure we will get the same results.
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By Cerberus.Trixen 2010-12-20 17:22:17
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i know its worms but this is what i did sam/war on fudo gear, atmas were VV griffon claw and ultimate, so im sure 6,2k is possible with MAB atmas on harder def mobs
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2010-12-20 17:33:44
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Fenrir.Gradd said:
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Cloudg's post looks plausible however, barring the inconsistency of the WS Damage. I believe it was mentioned that Weapon DMG had a part in the whole thing. I do trust either you or your LS member have a Masamune already though, so that's moot either way...so either it's gotta be brew or it's something totally not mentioned.

No Masamunes in my LS but ill have my Amano SAM try it out w/e he logs in, pretty sure we will get the same results.

Oh, really? Because apparently Oblit was using Masamune for it, but wasn't using the Fudo aftermath.

Fenrir.Gradd said:

Also cant find anything about it on BG, altho BG is a giant cluster *** and I have trouble finding stuff there period.
Found this, same guy too
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By Odin.Chazzyphizzle 2010-12-20 17:46:37
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he isn't brewing, if he was brewed he'd be doing upwards of 20k jinpus.
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By Lakshmi.Blacklion 2010-12-20 17:48:21
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Tested this myself With Numerous Gear Sets, And the same atmas the players used on here, There is NO consistency in this, It's all spike DMG Or brews (In my opinion At least), Show screenshots that are near the same time frame of 4-5 Jinpu's doing consistent Damage. If this is a troll attempt i applaud you, Not even i would of thought of this!
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By Diabolos.Cloudg 2010-12-20 18:05:06
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Lakshmi.Blacklion said:
Tested this myself With Numerous Gear Sets, And the same atmas the players used on here, There is NO consistency in this, It's all spike DMG Or brews (In my opinion At least), Show screenshots that are near the same time frame of 4-5 Jinpu's doing consistent Damage. If this is a troll attempt i applaud you, Not even i would of thought of this!

i dont have brew for 200k and i wouldnt waste 2m cruor to troll.

i also said that i couldn't find consistancy in this either but my lowest never seemed to be below 1.5k as long i didnt miss.
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