Twilight Gear

No. But you said healer ;). And if you capped difussion you could AOE haste 5 out of every 10 min!

Night should tell you the time I almost wanted to level RDM cuz WHM didn't seem to have anything over it then suddenly Abyssea.

okay so I see you took time to try to destruct my opinion, I am very glad.

I am not saying that I would make a rdm come over a blm or a brd or w/e, I am just saying that it can help in some situation.It's not 100% useless, like you seems to say.

and hmm refresh isnt always unnessairy.Most ppl like you think that having 3x atmas make you able to spam cure 5-6 forever w/o running out of mp.I did run out of mp, quite a few time (omg surprise!).Curing DDs that just dont care about phys and mag dmg - stuff who take up to 1-2k every 4s, isnt very MP friendly.

oh but yeahhhhhhh atmas make DD gods too -they say

It's funny how this topic is titled "Twilight Gear" and all these people are just crying about overpowered jobs because they are butt-hurt that SAM isn't easily top DD anymore. I think people are forgetting how much easier Masamune empyrean path is compared to unkonvasra or verethragna and a SAM with fudo is far from underpowered. So now it actually takes some time to gear up a job and you cant just throw on some ***perle or aurore gear and be the top DD.

SE has already made the game way too easy with abyssea buffs etc for those people who always complained about endgame gear being too hard to get. Stop crying, stop being lazy, put in some work and even every gimp sam can get a masamune with a pt of 3 ppl, probably even 2, it just wont come over night.

That being said, the TWILIGHT GEAR is pretty cool, best belt for all jobs that can wear except mnk, scythe is fun but has about 5% proc rate (I've played with it on my loldrk), the helm is pure win for all jobs that can use, the body is nice too as long as you dont need the stp for a hit build, the dagger is fun to play with but not a top DD dagger choice imo, the neck is pure win for everything, the cloak is just for looks but looks really badass and the cape is pretty much an elemental obi.

It's like you retards only read one word in someone's post (And it doesn't even have to be the person you're quoting) and just stick with it. Night never once *** said RDM was useless. In fact, he said the exact *** opposite

With sublimation, over 20mp refresh from atmas, gear, etc, temp items, there is no reason to run out of MP. Sorry, suck less.
RNG can really jump on that haste and DA!

RDM is still useful. It just isn't as useful as WHM in a lot of things. This is what we are arguing :(


Wtf are you doing which involves taking so much damage? You do basically have infinite MP with 15/tick+ from Atmas solely...


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I have friends with just RDM leveled, I tell them I don't want them to come along even though we are no where near 18?

Not everyone with RDM has a DD job also leveled.


Just because you guys do nothing but low man ***does not mean everyone is doing low man ***at all times, having a RDM in a party to be flexible, help with enfeebs, backup cure etc. comes in handy.

You guys are acting like I am being forced to do something with 2 friends and that I am asking one of them to come RDM because we need a RDM to enfeeb. You people need to realize not everyone does the exact same ***that you do.

Why calling me a retard? I am giving my opinion here.Be polite if you arent pretty
jeeze ppl

It's like the telephone game. by page 10 the discussion will be theories on magian trials for puppetmaster.

So if I have a friend with only PLD leveled, this makes PLD good?


If you're not lowmanning, with the vast majority of mobs you could throw a bunch of braindead monkeys at something and still win. That doesn't make WHM less overpowered.

If a friend only has RDM leveled, cool. In the above situation (read: almost any situation) they would be more useful if they only had a DD leveled etc.

We aren't arguing that. We're arguing efficiency. And when you come in here and spout BS like that, of course we're gonna jump on you. People are free to do whatever the *** they like, but don't pretend it's the best way to do ***or try to convince others it is.

I myself don't do things the most efficiently. I know for a fact Nightfyre doesn't either, and I can make a pretty strong assumption Raenryong doesn't either.

Christ this is not hard to understand.

I did rani and raja yesterday....I think I never wanted to shoot myself that much...

Tweek people aren't talking about your situation though. They are talking in general. No one is going to turn down a red mage as a healer for a party in an 18 man exp alliance. But if I'm going to kill an NM with 2-3 people, I'm taking a white mage and not a red mage. They've already given you all the reasons.

I still hope every time I post in a topic to actually be the cause of it getting locked. But I don't think these forums even have mobs so :(

I dont think any1 tried to convince or say its the best way.

^^

Back on topic...

I want the dagger because it looks sexy. :3

its sexy... but not as the weapon you want as main.I think I could replace joy/parazonium if using rani ring/atma.It proc quite a bunch and it doesnt kill your damage over time.

I want it all because I enjoy pokemon. I gotta catch em all.

I never once said that you need to bring a RDM or that you can't operate without a RDM this entire thing started off by saying RDM is not as good of a healer as WHM because... RDM isn't a "healer" class and that RDM can do other ***better than a WHM.

Obviously everyone would, I never once said anything about NOT doing that that's why i don't understand all the hostility as if I had said that or anything like that.

This. I also want it for my NIN. Maybe Quad Attack+ applies to mainhand katana as well. >.>

IDK, I just wanna use such a sexy looking dagger for my NIN, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

You obviously know nothing about scholar.

I have sch <.< and blm, both pretty well geared.So I think I know pretty much about sch.
thx for trying to troll though

Well, of course I'd offhand it!
I just need to stop tanking everything so I can mainhand something more exciting than an AGI Kila+2 :/

And for how much does your scholar nuke?

Haha I think my jobs speak for themselves there!

RDM is not a terrible job, not even a bad job, but it deserves more healing power. To say that it deserves to be a terrible healer on anything harder than an exp mob because it can land a 5%~ stronger Slow is laughable.

ANGRY HAAAAAARPY GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

I am the oldschool auric/joyeuse dnc tank.But I mainly solo and I really dont enjoy TP spam.I use full eva gear so I dont need those agi/eva magian dagger.I am currently doing para 2-4 times atm but mainly for the evisceration spam in exp pts ect.I will prolly not use it for solo.

I havent not used sch in ages, so I cant tell you.But I can bet my *** they wont break 8k in non MB situation.