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 Bismarck.Mitchel
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By Bismarck.Mitchel 2010-12-14 11:27:17
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Asura.Andevom said:
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Or you could just buy one for 200k with abyssite of the cosmos.

Which you get from "The Wyrm God", so that kinda kills that now doesn't it?

Why, you only planning on doing the fight once then?
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2010-12-14 12:12:39
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Rani's the only real *** block when it comes to accessing the fight. He's a douche with a mission.
My guess is that if you're struggling with Rani, then you're not gonna do so well in the bc anyway.

Also, Kirana and Corres, stop asking questions that have already been answered and just read the damn thread.

I'm sorry, but none of my questions were answered earlier in the thread. I've read through it several times.

While I'm at it, here's another question:

Does Shinryu himself drop the items? or do they come from a chest? Would be nice if TH helped.
 
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-12-14 12:36:54
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Asura.Andevom said:
Bismarck.Mitchel said:
Asura.Andevom said:
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Or you could just buy one for 200k with abyssite of the cosmos.

Which you get from "The Wyrm God", so that kinda kills that now doesn't it?

Why, you only planning on doing the fight once then?

No, but if we're discussing strategies on how to beat it, I think strategies that involve using an item you can only get from beating it is a bit useless.

If you can beat it without it (which you need to at least once), then that's the strategy that needs to be discussed.


Beat it once normal way, zerg it with item to farm items.


Logic says hi.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-12-14 12:46:31
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Asura.Andevom said:
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Beat it once normal way, zerg it with item to farm items.


Logic says hi.

Yeah. And that normal way is....what? I guess you didn't understand my point.

Obviously if you can beat it normally, you're going to be able to tackle it with the brew. The question now is, how exactly do you take it down that first time?


Oh I know what you mean, of course we need to know how to beat it normally, that's common sense.

but as far as after... well ... if drops are just like any BCNM then people can just blaze through it with brews instead of going through the hassle of beating it "normally"

Unless of course they limit you in the BC.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-12-14 12:47:17
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Asura.Andevom said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Beat it once normal way, zerg it with item to farm items.


Logic says hi.

Yeah. And that normal way is....what? I guess you didn't understand my point.

Obviously if you can beat it normally, you're going to be able to tackle it with the brew. The question now is, how exactly do you take it down that first time?

2-3 DDs, at least two healers, zerg the *** out of it sub 25% before he rapes you.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2010-12-14 12:52:10
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Asura.Andevom said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Beat it once normal way, zerg it with item to farm items.


Logic says hi.

Yeah. And that normal way is....what? I guess you didn't understand my point.

Obviously if you can beat it normally, you're going to be able to tackle it with the brew. The question now is, how exactly do you take it down that first time?


Buy a brew for 2mil the first time, of course.

Then every other time it costs 200k. Seemed simple enough to me.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-12-14 12:56:27
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Seems like a waste when you could just kill him without the brew and turn that cruor into 10 brews instead of 1.
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By Siren.Eremes 2010-12-14 12:59:32
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Ragnarok.Corres said:
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Ok, dumb question, but what exactly does this Abyssite of Discernment do? I tried to Wiki it, no luck.
from BG:

does not show everytime though poster said.

Erhm... Does that show a mob's "weakness" (as in spells that will land/do more damage) or !! weakness? Slow II =/= "Wind Elemental Magic." <_<
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2010-12-14 13:00:37
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There's a 5 second delay between the slow 2 and the proc. It's more than likely that someone else's spell proc'd the !!.
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By Lakshmi.Kingofbastok 2010-12-14 13:24:38
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Doesn't that pic show a red !! proc from elemental wses because wouldn't a magic proc say the mob is unable to cast rather than frozen in its tracks? Also, I'm guessing that the wind weakness referrence is talking about it's !! proc, so in this case it will likely be aero 3, aero 4, aeroga 3, or tornado since those are the only wind elemental spells that can proc a !! (unless SE messed up and means wind element instead of elemental, which would mean it could be any wind spell out of the 8).
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By Bismarck.Elanabelle 2010-12-14 13:27:59
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Lakshmi.Aurilius said:
There's a 5 second delay between the slow 2 and the proc. It's more than likely that someone else's spell proc'd the !!.

This is getting off-topic, but it definitely was someone else's action that triggered the !!.
Slow II is not a trigger spell. And the text in the pic shows a red !! weakness, not yellow.

I only re-emphasize this because I still see players trying spells like Poison II, Bio, Burn, Aspir II, Banishga, Stun, Gravity, Elegy, and Absorb-DEX, thinking that these are potential trigger spells. They are not.

The only Enfeebling Magic spell that is a potential trigger spell is Dispel. The only Dark Magic spells that are potential triggers are Bio II, Drain (I), and Aspir (I).

Please spare me your anecdotes about how you swear that this one time at band-camp you triggered !! with Diaga.
You didn't.
It was someone else's spell from your party.
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By Lakshmi.Kingofbastok 2010-12-14 13:32:42
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This is taken from wiki:

Red !! Weakness (Elemental WS):
"Your attack staggers the fiend!
The fiend is frozen in its tracks."

Yellow !! Weakness (Magic):
"Your attack staggers the fiend!
The fiend is unable to cast magic."

So unless I forgot how to read, the mob was weakened with an Elemental WS and not a magic spell, so slow 2 did not cause a !! proc, nor did any other spell (at least within the picture).
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By Lakshmi.Vitali 2010-12-14 13:56:35
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It's a hard, but very fun fight. Sad that you can use brew on it, as it's one of the few truly challenging fights left in the game.

It's not so bad until he gets below 50% where he gain's access to most of his mean spells, and below 25% he gets spam happy as reported (3x meteor, 3x Supernova being the worst). Even supernova is managable with holy water, it's the meteor spam that is near impossible to survive without the use of fools, especially for mages as he loves to drawn in as he readies his 3x ability/spell spam.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2010-12-14 14:02:54
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Lakshmi.Vitali said:

Was there good music in the fight? I hadn't checked the music .dat files, so I don't know if there's a new song or if they re-used an old one.
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By Lakshmi.Vitali 2010-12-14 14:05:54
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Yea, it's the best to date, in my opinion. Really reminiscent of old school FF boss fights.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-12-14 14:25:23
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Siren.Eremes said:
Ragnarok.Corres said:
Hades.Stefanos said:
Ok, dumb question, but what exactly does this Abyssite of Discernment do? I tried to Wiki it, no luck.
from BG: does not show everytime though poster said.
Erhm... Does that show a mob's "weakness" (as in spells that will land/do more damage) or !! weakness? Slow II =/= "Wind Elemental Magic." <_<
Slow also doesn't proc red... Ie slow II didn't !!
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2010-12-14 14:32:15
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Lakshmi.Vitali said:
Yea, it's the best to date, in my opinion. Really reminiscent of old school FF boss fights.

Damn, I'm excited to hear it. Anyone do a rip of the song or know the number for it in Vana'tunes?
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2010-12-14 14:36:41
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Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
Lakshmi.Vitali said:
Yea, it's the best to date, in my opinion. Really reminiscent of old school FF boss fights.

Damn, I'm excited to hear it. Anyone do a rip of the song or know the number for it in Vana'tunes?


 
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-12-14 14:46:48
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I like that music :O


veeeery reminiscent of old FF music.
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By Bismarck.Touvan 2010-12-14 15:37:21
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Heads up you get the abyssite for 200k brew by completing the quest line leading up to shinryu fight so you can use brew first time you fight.
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By Cerberus.Starr 2010-12-14 15:56:45
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So what are drop rates like?
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By Lakshmi.Vitali 2010-12-14 15:57:11
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no, you don't. You get the abyssite that gives you hints to a mob's weakness for completing the quests leading up to the fight.
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By Lakshmi.Vitali 2010-12-14 23:35:00
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Killed once legit, now farming with brews. Helm/Mail still elusive but capped on everything else. Blue !! procing on most kills.
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By Hades.Cheyne 2010-12-15 00:15:20
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So what is impact? :c
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2010-12-15 00:15:33
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Lakshmi.Vitali said:
[IMG]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f364/ryandonn85/ffxi_20101215_001819.jpg

Killed once legit, now farming with brews. Helm/Mail still elusive but capped on everything else. Blue !! procing on most kills.

How would you say drop rate was on the kills without Blue?

Which items dropped?

Did any?
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Hades.Cheyne said:
So what is impact? :c

Black magic spells, Inflicts -?? to all Stats. Did about "2,500 damage to a crab" (not in Abyssea) from a "Well geared BLM)
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