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 Sylph.Kwate
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By Sylph.Kwate 2010-12-10 14:25:25
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Sup fellow Blu's been on the fence about equipping this on a permanent basis as you all know points are becoming more and more of a luxury. Just wanted some feedback on how many of us plan on realistically utilizing this spell and why.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-12-10 14:32:03
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Idk... overall it's pretty nice. 1.5 sec cast for 7 shadows... On the other hand the mp cost is rather prohibitive.

So usually at best it would be emergency use only. Ie fighting something that hits pretty hard that just wiped your shadows and both utsesmi and actinic burst are down.
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By Sylph.Kwate 2010-12-10 14:39:42
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it is nice, for some reason though I think I'm still spoiled Utsu after a tier 5, getting through my blink. Luckily I had Magic Barrier up.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-12-10 14:41:18
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I love this spell tbh, awesome proc rate and good to use for Ni > occ(use few shadows) > ichi.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-12-10 14:42:15
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Lol magic barrier... that spell is so lame
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-12-10 14:46:25
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It has niche uses, last time I really made a big use of it was tanking JOL a while back but now I'm sure he is super easy to just zerg down.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-12-10 14:49:32
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Meh I guess... I mean it only blocks a little bit more than the real stoneskin spells and takes ALOT longer to cast. It was a big let down. Plus I still haven't seen the mob use the move after 6 hours of trying...
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By Sylph.Kwate 2010-12-10 15:27:32
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Didn't realize I was in the minority in using Magic Barrier lol.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2010-12-10 15:46:29
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The MP cost, at least I've found, isn't really that bad. For duoing NMs in Abyssea Occultation is just plain broken.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2010-12-10 19:47:42
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Sylph.Kwate said:
Didn't realize I was in the minority in using Magic Barrier lol.

I put up magic barrier occasionally.
Has saved my butt on several occasions from things like astral flow, etc.
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-12-10 20:06:02
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Carbuncle.Asymptotic said:
Sylph.Kwate said:
Didn't realize I was in the minority in using Magic Barrier lol.

I put up magic barrier occasionally.
Has saved my butt on several occasions from things like astral flow, etc.
Magic Barrier definitely has niche uses like this. When fighting NMs that do mainly physical damage, but have one or two magical damage moves that can really hurt, magic barrier is great. Only real time I've used it was on Kharon, as any physical attacks that get through will still hit me, but then when he does blood saber or malediction it'll hit my barrier and not heal him.

Occultation has more uses I think, despite the MP cost, which are pretty self-explanatory. It's just really handy having an emergency ni+3, even if the shadows aren't quite as reliable.
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By Ramuh.Zangada 2010-12-10 20:58:22
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I wouldnt use it in my usual set, but i guess it can be good in certian situations.

Has anyone tested delta thrust or empty thrash yet? Theyre low mp use and seem to have potential. Idk the mods but without any buffs or gear swaps i was doing 600+.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2010-12-10 21:01:46
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Delta Thrust is definitely a nice spell, very high dmg:mp going on as well as a fairly potent plague.
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By Pandemonium.Leonlionheart 2010-12-10 21:13:12
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Doesn't Occultation give a random amount of shadows? I believe from personal testing I've gotten anywhere from 4-10
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-12-10 21:24:14
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What he said ^ (prothescar)

The plague seems quite potent indeed, and lands well (not on NMs though I'd imagine, only tried it on one). And I use Empty Thrash for the same thing I used to use Mandibular Bite for way back when I used to solo imps for exp. You know when you're soloing something, and it gets down to like, 10-15% HP. It's too high HP to kill quickly with head butt and a melee, and too low to waste MP with another big spell? Yeah, that's where I use it.
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-12-10 21:27:52
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Pandemonium.Leonlionheart said:
Doesn't Occultation give a random amount of shadows? I believe from personal testing I've gotten anywhere from 4-10
How much testing have you done? I've only seen 7
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By Pandemonium.Leonlionheart 2010-12-10 21:30:10
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Not enough. But I've counted 4 shadows for sure.
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-12-10 21:42:07
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Just tested a couple more times, 7 shadows each time. If you only got 4, you probably had it stripped with an aoe.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2010-12-10 21:48:44
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Yeah, I've never had Occultation provide more or less than 7 shadows, and I've used it a lot.
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By Pandemonium.Leonlionheart 2010-12-10 22:28:16
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Weird. I could've sworn I've counted different numbers, but it'd be better if it's flat 7 than random anyway.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-12-10 22:36:08
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Pandemonium.Leonlionheart said:
Weird. I could've sworn I've counted different numbers, but it'd be better if it's flat 7 than random anyway.
Maybe you are thinking of zephyr mantle?
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-12-10 22:45:21
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Zep mantle also overwrites occulation would could be interesting lol. Ni > Ichi > Occulation > Zep mantle > Ni ! Not that it's needed but eh never know lol
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-12-11 00:26:00
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Casting time on ZM is waaay too ***to use in battle. It's always been just a before battle spell for me. But you're the uber tank, give it a shot :p
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By Shiva.Cerderic 2011-03-15 17:57:29
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Just assuming, but i do believe the amount of shadows it gives is Blue Magic Skill / 50
Try equipping gear and casting it at 400+
I'm pretty sure you'll get 8 shadows instead of 7.
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2011-03-15 18:01:01
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Valefor.Prothescar said:
Delta Thrust is definitely a nice spell, very high dmg:mp going on as well as a fairly potent plague.

Delta Thrust + Disseverment and Regurg is a nice lil combom along with the final touches of Quad and maybe Gob, then you've expelled a lvl 75 ish mob in Campaign down in less than 15 seconds...
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By Sylph.Kwate 2011-03-15 19:00:52
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With us "specializing" in blink shadows, now seems to be a good time to have a number by it like Utsu.
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By Sylph.Bodhizapha 2011-03-16 14:38:31
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in aby i'm almost always /rdm and rely on occulation and ss

outside i find it too mp draining so i run /nin and dont even bother setting it.
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By Alexander.Inuyasha 2011-04-26 17:56:38
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Sylph.Bodhizapha said:
in aby i'm almost always /rdm and rely on occulation and ss outside i find it too mp draining so i run /nin and dont even bother setting it.
im not the only one that does that!?

but i set Occulation with a gearset that boost me to 406 skill....i get 8 shadows...but against the heroes Ironclads it gets whiped in one hit....but yea...its a nice little Blink spell...great for Occu + Stoneskin.

i dont know about you guys but with AF3+1 hands,body,head,legs Animating Wail,twilight bet i can ge tOccu to a 50 minute recast or so (which is nice :D )
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-04-27 13:41:04
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Soon as we get Magma Hoplon for a blue magic skill based Phalanx + stoneskin that doesn't suck, I'm gonna feel stupid for levelling /RDM :<
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-04-27 13:43:14
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Valefor.Prothescar said:
Soon as we get Magma Hoplon for a blue magic skill based Phalanx + stoneskin that doesn't suck, I'm gonna feel stupid for levelling /RDM :<
aquaviel is the only reason I use /rdm anyways lol
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