We Are Small.
We are small.
ITT: People shrugging their shoulders at each other... argumentatively
That DNA in the organism found doesn't differ very much from our own. There was one element in every other organisms' DNA that was not found in the organisms' habitat so it substituted arsenic. It's certainly significant but it wasn't radically different from everything else on Earth. According to what I have read, arsenic has some properties that are similar to phosphorus that made it an ideal element to substitute for.
Pretty incredible. I wish I lived in Star Wars so I had a hyperdrive to go exploring the universe. And while in hyperspace, I'd watch Blade Runner. :D
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Now I do agree there can be life on other planets and the likes of it, but the universe with it's vastness can not compare to the iron ball in the center of our planet. No other planet in the universe has stable gravity, so how can life be possible on other planets then? If you don't believe that, then find me a planet with 1.0 gravity lol. But wait they'll still say oh other life forms can still exist! Oh, where exactly are they again? lol.
What in the world is this...? Was anyone able to make sense of it?
"The rest of the universe can't even compare to our 'iron ball'" Huh?
"1.0 gravity?" What?
Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Now I do agree there can be life on other planets and the likes of it, but the universe with it's vastness can not compare to the iron ball in the center of our planet. No other planet in the universe has stable gravity, so how can life be possible on other planets then? If you don't believe that, then find me a planet with 1.0 gravity lol. But wait they'll still say oh other life forms can still exist! Oh, where exactly are they again? lol.
What in the world is this...? Was anyone able to make sense of it?
"The rest of the universe can't even compare to our 'iron ball'" Huh?
"1.0 gravity?" What?
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1.0 ~ a 1:1 ration i assume is what he meant thus that the planet has a similiar mass and gravity around exactly that of earth.
Everything I've ever read about the moon indicated its gravity is a small fraction of Earth's.
Phoenix.Darki said:
yes by all those chances, there is life outside of earth, people who don't believe so need to commit suicide. Get rid of the worthless scum from this earth plz.
You can't just make assumptions based on ignorance. Oh so the universe is huge there must be life out there!!! No, there is as much evidence to suggest there is not life as evidence to suggest there is at this present time, however hopefully that will change as technology progresses and we are able to explore further. I believe there is life out there aswell, but until there is anything to go by you can't say that anyone who believes otherwise is an idiot.
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Ramuh.Urial said:
Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Now I do agree there can be life on other planets and the likes of it, but the universe with it's vastness can not compare to the iron ball in the center of our planet. No other planet in the universe has stable gravity, so how can life be possible on other planets then? If you don't believe that, then find me a planet with 1.0 gravity lol. But wait they'll still say oh other life forms can still exist! Oh, where exactly are they again? lol.
And even that is based on the things we know to exist. It has been theorized that non-carbon based life can exist(it may even have been proven by now). Saw some documentary on the possible existance of silicon based life forms.
I guess he's just thinking that lots of other "people-like" life forms don't exist out there. Ones that speak English and various other Earth-languages. At this moment in time, likely not. But if the universe infinitely(over time) expands and contracts and is as large as it is, then I don't think it's impossible for the exact same situation to exist in a different point in time. Even if it's separated by a huge huge huge time difference.
Luz said:
Everything I've ever read about the moon indicated its gravity is a small fraction of Earth's.
Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
Now I do agree there can be life on other planets and the likes of it, but the universe with it's vastness can not compare to the iron ball in the center of our planet. No other planet in the universe has stable gravity, so how can life be possible on other planets then? If you don't believe that, then find me a planet with 1.0 gravity lol. But wait they'll still say oh other life forms can still exist! Oh, where exactly are they again? lol.
And even that is based on the things we know to exist. It has been theorized that non-carbon based life can exist(it may even have been proven by now). Saw some documentary on the possible existance of silicon based life forms.
I guess he's just thinking that lots of other "people-like" life forms don't exist out there. Ones that speak English and various other Earth-languages. At this moment in time, likely not. But if the universe infinitely(over time) expands and contracts and is as large as it is, then I don't think it's impossible for the exact same situation to exist in a different point in time. Even if it's separated by a huge huge huge time difference.
Yes I completely agree. I think he expects a universe where other lifeforms look almost exactly like humans. But realistically the odds of that are a gigantic number to one, there are wayyyyyyyyyyy to many variables of things that have happened over the course of earths existence for any planet to ever develop the exact same again.
My 2 cents, We do not yet have the ability to truly communicate directly with other life if we found, being they are so far away. IMO, other life has never really visited earth, and if the have..."Meh, Lets get out of here guys, looks lame." SO, whats does it matter?
Given the mind-boggling vastness of the universe, it seems impossible to believe we are the only planet with life... or that no other planet with our living conditions exists. There are BILLIONS of stars in BILLIONS of galaxies, that number is incomprehensible to us. However I believe that, taking into consideration the ridiculous distances involved in space travel, life forms on other planets might as well not be there. I doubt we'll ever contact one, but who knows!
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
There could be countless civilizations less advanced and more advanced than us out there. But imagine we look up and see a civilization currently going through some sort of medievil times, their own dark ages like ours.
Why the hell would you go visit them lol let them be. Other species could view us like that for all we know.
Why the hell would you go visit them lol let them be. Other species could view us like that for all we know.
What if they wanted to accelerate our civilization's advancement? :D
There's nothing we could do to stop them if we disagreed with their decisions. Hell what if they even saved us by, for example, teaching us how to capture carbon without expending nearly as much energy as was the result of the process by which the carbon byproduct was created.
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Would you honestly go down to a planet in the dark ages and "advance them?" they'd probably kill you on sight or go the opposite way lol and we could be in an equivalent stage in their eyes. The fact a species would desire to save us seems childish to me.
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Would you honestly go down to a planet in the dark ages and "advance them?" they'd probably kill you on sight or go the opposite way lol and we could be in an equivalent stage in their eyes. The fact a species would desire to save us seems childish to me.
Life can also mean animals like dogs. Would you go to them and try and advance them? They'll likely have their own language/way of interacting. To find an animal out there that has the same range of emotions and same desires would be extrememly unlikely. Finding some sort of living organism on the other hand, would probably be pretty easy(comparatively). Even in our own galaxy.
Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
Life can also mean animals like dogs. Would you go to them and try and advance them? They'll likely have their own language/way of interacting. To find an animal out there that has the same range of emotions and same desires would be extrememly unlikely. Finding some sort of living organism on the other hand, would probably be pretty easy(comparatively). Even in our own galaxy.
We're talking about intelligent life. Humans are the only life on Earth with the capacity to destroy the conditions that make our planet habitable to us. If a civilization is on the brink of doing so, do you help out of kindness or leave them to destroy themselves?
The difference between science and religion is religion runs based off absolution, while with science it's based on probability and theory.
I'm not going to try to turn this into a religious thread. Just was implying maybe alien life would come to Earth and do something for us in exchange for something else. Maybe there is an abundant resource on Earth that is more easily tapped here than on other planets. Yes, I know they can take it if they wanted anyway. Was just having fun trying to discuss what kind of interaction aliens would want to have with us if they chose to.
Even now we're finding new life forms we thought never could exist based on their habitat and cell structure. Like that non-carbon based life form found in that lake saturated in arsenic flion made a thread about not to long ago.
Which is interesting because based on our definition, life forms have almost always been organic (carbon based), but this one would be a non-organic life form that can take on totally different conditions to reproduce, evolve, etc.
Which is interesting because based on our definition, life forms have almost always been organic (carbon based), but this one would be a non-organic life form that can take on totally different conditions to reproduce, evolve, etc.
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Luz said:
Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
Life can also mean animals like dogs. Would you go to them and try and advance them? They'll likely have their own language/way of interacting. To find an animal out there that has the same range of emotions and same desires would be extrememly unlikely. Finding some sort of living organism on the other hand, would probably be pretty easy(comparatively). Even in our own galaxy.
We're talking about intelligent life. Humans are the only life on Earth with the capacity to destroy the conditions that make our planet habitable to us. If a civilization is on the brink of doing so, do you help out of kindness or leave them to destroy themselves?
It took you 30 minutes to make a post arguing semantics? Beavers habitat doesn't even stretch the world over. They can have an effect on the life in the places they do live and outlying areas, but humans have a significant, global impact on their environment.
Don't forget the Mar's Pyramids and face. There's obvious indications something out there has had space travel before us. On that note wasn't there some ancient myth's about civilizations with space travel?
I want Mars to be terraformed.
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Luz said:
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Luz said:
Caitsith.Mahayaya said:
Life can also mean animals like dogs. Would you go to them and try and advance them? They'll likely have their own language/way of interacting. To find an animal out there that has the same range of emotions and same desires would be extrememly unlikely. Finding some sort of living organism on the other hand, would probably be pretty easy(comparatively). Even in our own galaxy.
We're talking about intelligent life. Humans are the only life on Earth with the capacity to destroy the conditions that make our planet habitable to us. If a civilization is on the brink of doing so, do you help out of kindness or leave them to destroy themselves?
It took you 30 minutes to make a post arguing semantics? Beavers habitat doesn't even stretch the world over. They can have an effect on the life in the places they do live and outlying areas, but humans have a significant, global impact on their environment.
The discussion was never on localized environments, it was global to begin with.
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