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21 year old hangs himself live.
Fenrir.Yinsha
Serveur: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 263
By Fenrir.Yinsha 2010-10-12 14:33:17
Leviathan.Angelskiss said: Fenrir.Yinsha said: I wouldn't feel any different if it happened in front of me. Fearing death is a weakness. Killing yourself because life sucks is a weakness. Perhaps they need to grow up, herp derp. does not mean the same thing as this
Fenrir.Yinsha said: Yeah, maybe I should rephrase, fearing death is natural, letting it become an obstacle to you is different. Freaking out in a critical situation is not something you should do if you want to save lives. However I'm not going to watch someone kill themselves, I would try to stop them. I simply meant if someone is dead there's nothing you can do, get over it.
Is what Mat is trying to point out. I believe I covered that pretty well. Am I supposed to let someone's death take over my emotions? Also would you not save someone you love because you're afraid of death? The fear keeps you alive but if you cannot deal with it in certain situations I believe it's a weakness. The "everyone's apathetic" bit was trollin'.
Serveur: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2191
By Siren.Eagleeyes 2010-10-12 14:42:34
7 pages ant not in the flame core. ha ha ha
Cerberus.Nutt
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 264
By Cerberus.Nutt 2010-10-12 15:04:43
Phoenix.Excelior said: For anyone out there thinking of suicide I want to help you in your decision: 1. You should really just kill yourself. I mean seriously what is the meaning of life? If you haven't found meaning to your life then you probably never will and should just kill yourself. 2. Your family doesn't love you. Love is an abstract concept that can't be defined more than chemical interactions in the brain. Love generally comes from personal involvment with someone. The fact of the matter is that after you're dead and burried your family will forget you. Sure they might remember you for awhile but their kids won't and their kid's kids won't. You are destined to be forgotten and your entire life was completely meaningless. 3. You have no friends. Most of the people who claim to be someone's friends are only friends so long as their path in life continues in the same direction. People you meet in college and highschool will fade out from your life to live their own. You think that your death will mean something to them, and it might for a year or two, but then you will be forgotten. 4. You ask yourself what is the meaning of life? The meaning of life is what you choose. If you choose to die then you do so because your life was without meaning. Why do something meaningless? The only thing more meaningless than your meaningless life will be your meaningless death. 5. Go do it. Please. Kill yourself right now. Don't be a pussy and write a suicide letter or anything else. You're life is completely without meaning, if you attempt to leave something behind then you imply that you think your life might still have meaning. Don't kid yourself; you're worthless.
Excelior, the more I examine you and your posts, the more interesting you are to me. I agree 100% that the meaning of life IS to live through it and to eventually.. die. It's the ultimate test of endurance.
What about Van Gogh? People still remember him.
Also, we are all connected. If someone commits suicide, that's a uncle, husband, grandfather or... wife, aunt, grandmother that will never be known.
Perhaps this person was supposed to stop you from doing something, or to befriend you.. Anything is possible. Now that the person is gone, life has to shift.
It is possible now that someone won't ever have that friend, or that wife, or that husband because this selfish person decided to cheat and take an EASY way out of life.
While you are here, try to make a positive impact on people when you cross their path. Ok, that's my KumBayah Speech for the day.
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Ramuh.Vinvv
Serveur: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 15542
By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-10-12 15:26:23
Fenrir.Yinsha said: Leviathan.Angelskiss said: Fenrir.Yinsha said: I wouldn't feel any different if it happened in front of me. Fearing death is a weakness. Killing yourself because life sucks is a weakness. Perhaps they need to grow up, herp derp. does not mean the same thing as this
Fenrir.Yinsha said: Yeah, maybe I should rephrase, fearing death is natural, letting it become an obstacle to you is different. Freaking out in a critical situation is not something you should do if you want to save lives. However I'm not going to watch someone kill themselves, I would try to stop them. I simply meant if someone is dead there's nothing you can do, get over it.
Is what Mat is trying to point out. I believe I covered that pretty well. Am I supposed to let someone's death take over my emotions? Also would you not save someone you love because you're afraid of death? The fear keeps you alive but if you cannot deal with it in certain situations I believe it's a weakness. The "everyone's apathetic" bit was trollin'. You technically are allowed to cope with death your own way, either by being emotional, or by being callous and apathetic(easier to be callous and apathetic IMO, works for me for the most part),
I can't really get what you're trying to say for the rest because you don't articulate your words very well.
Regardless, if I killed I stabbed someone right in front of you I doubt you'd deal with it the same way we think.
It's not something you can know unless you've experienced it first-hand.
Cerberus.Nutt said:
Excelior, the more I examine you and your posts, the more interesting you are to me. I agree 100% that the meaning of life IS to live through it and to eventually.. die. It's the ultimate test of endurance.
What about Van Gogh? People still remember him.
Also, we are all connected. If someone commits suicide, that's a uncle, husband, grandfather or... wife, aunt, grandmother that will never be known.
Perhaps this person was supposed to stop you from doing something, or to befriend you.. Anything is possible. Now that the person is gone, life has to shift.
It is possible now that someone won't ever have that friend, or that wife, or that husband because this selfish person decided to cheat and take an EASY way out of life.
While you are here, try to make a positive impact on people when you cross their path. Ok, that's my KumBayah Speech for the day.
Death is too rampant to worry about the what-ifs involved.
Ragnarok.Corres
Serveur: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1220
By Ragnarok.Corres 2010-10-12 15:27:00
Phoenix.Darki said:
Gilgamesh.Shayala said: The lack of compassion and empathy shown by some of the posters on this thread is saddening.
it's called no respect for life. it's called "being a ***, and loving it."
sad *** needs to clear up their minds and maybe just maybe go outside (you know where the sun shines) and do something else besides watching this sick ***.
you wanna see someone die? look in the mirror every morning and you see someone who dies a little more each day because such persons could not possibly have any real life at all.
sick ***!
Serveur: Titan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 14
By Titan.Nihilist 2010-10-12 15:27:31
Before dishing out your judgments...remember...you were never in these peoples shoes...If you were to live the lives of these people...then your opinions would not be the same...the key word is...understanding...
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Ramuh.Vinvv
Serveur: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 15542
By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-10-12 15:28:51
Ragnarok.Corres said: Phoenix.Darki said:
Gilgamesh.Shayala said: The lack of compassion and empathy shown by some of the posters on this thread is saddening.
it's called no respect for life. it's called "being a ***, and loving it."
sad *** needs to clear up their minds and maybe just maybe go outside (you know where the sun shines) and do something else besides watching this sick ***.
you wanna see someone die? look in the mirror every morning and you see someone who dies a little more each day because such persons could not possibly have any real life at all.
sick ***!
you say dumb things.
no better than the person you're bitching about.
Titan. said: NihilistBefore dishing out your judgments...remember...you were never in these peoples shoes...If you were to live the lives of these people...then your opinions would not be the same...the key word is...understanding... of course I wouldn't be the same, I'd be dead.
hey u guiz.
don't assume i agree with excelior just because I don't hugbox with you guys btw :D
i'm just getting that out in the open first because I've learned that people on this site need everything spelled out.
your name made me lol in regards to what you said.
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 24692
By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-10-12 15:31:37
Ragnarok.Corres said: Phoenix.Darki said:
Gilgamesh.Shayala said: The lack of compassion and empathy shown by some of the posters on this thread is saddening.
it's called no respect for life. it's called "being a ***, and loving it."
sad *** needs to clear up their minds and maybe just maybe go outside (you know where the sun shines) and do something else besides watching this sick ***.
you wanna see someone die? look in the mirror every morning and you see someone who dies a little more each day because such persons could not possibly have any real life at all.
sick ***!
no numbnuts, its called being "desensitized". You think someone from a war-torn country like Ghana, or Equador would flinch of they saw someone getting their head blown off. I think not.
Ramuh.Vinvv
Serveur: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 15542
By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-10-12 15:33:02
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Ragnarok.Corres said: Phoenix.Darki said:
Gilgamesh.Shayala said: The lack of compassion and empathy shown by some of the posters on this thread is saddening.
it's called no respect for life. it's called "being a ***, and loving it."
sad *** needs to clear up their minds and maybe just maybe go outside (you know where the sun shines) and do something else besides watching this sick ***.
you wanna see someone die? look in the mirror every morning and you see someone who dies a little more each day because such persons could not possibly have any real life at all.
sick ***!
no numbnuts, its called being "desensitized". You think someone from a war-torn country like Ghana, or Equador would flinch of they saw someone getting their head blown off. I think not. I think they would react to it in some way/shape form.
Just not in the way that we would percieve that normal humans should react.
That's why we have soldiers who are *** in the brain coming back to the states, have for years.
don't mind me, i'm just dissenting as usual.
Carbuncle.Sevourn
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 9481
By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-12 15:33:31
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: apparently you *** don't lurk through Rotten or FacesofDeath
no.
i don't.
and i kind of appreciate the fact that they don't usually share content with ffxiah.
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Ramuh.Vinvv
Serveur: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 15542
By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-10-12 15:34:42
Carbuncle.Sevourn said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: apparently you *** don't lurk through Rotten or FacesofDeath
no.
i don't.
and i kind of appreciate the fact that they don't usually share content with ffxiah.
i stopped looking at that ***when ogrish disappeared.
that and i pass out if i look at gory ***for too long.
i used ogrish as a school skipping tool a few times in HS.
go to school hop on the pc and browse there and turn green and go do what i want for the rest of the day.
Lakshmi.Jaerik
Administrator
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Posts: 3834
By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-10-12 15:40:51
Um, if we're going to have a policy against posting porn, I think that posting videos of people killing themselves is similarly over the line in shock value. Closing the thread and deleting the video links.
Seriously guys, common sense.
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Happen today in sweden, since I havent been able to find any info in english I've used google translator. So some stuff might look odd.
SwedishNewspaper said: Several people were shocked to witness when a young man on Monday hanged himself live on a web page.
The police were alerted and pulled out the man's apartment in a Swedish town but did not stop him in time. He is now confirmed dead.
- I've seen a lot online but this is the worst I've seen in my entire life, said a person who witnessed the incident, via a webcam was looking directly at an Internet site.
Police were alerted at 13:44 and was in place in the man's apartment at 14:05. There began immediately with cardiopulmonary resuscitation but discovered that it was too late.
- He has been found dead, "said police spokesman.
Over a thousand comments poured rapidly on to the page where the event was shown. Comment feature was shut down but then the police contacted the individuals behind the page.
- It is unfortunate if someone knew that the man planned to kill himself and did not do anything to stop him, "said press spokesman, but added that police can not control how people behave in social forums on the web.
However, she believes that many who witnessed the scene and the one preceding the suicide did not take the incident seriously.
- You've heard of such incidents in other countries but never in Sweden. It easily becomes a fictional world on the internet and it seems that many and not realized it was for real.
Quotes from an online forum where he says that he's gonna kill himself, and gives out passwords to people who wanna watch it live on webcam
Quote:
"I'm a guy in 21 years.
I have a good life, studying at my own pace, in an apartment, a great income (activity + housing).
Is Asperger syndrome / high functioning autism.
Is overly vulnerable (emotionally) ...
Have the right poor social skills, which makes me a somewhat lonely one.
Think I've had a good upbringing, despite a lot of hassle at school.
Makes no sense that I want to kill me? Nah, I know "
"Have made up my mind to kill myself by hanging myself.
Have tried a bit to strangle myself and how it feels.
Took some painkillers for a few minutes ago (100mg dexofen and 1500mg paracetamol), is waiting right now for it to start working.
Has sat on my webcam with a program that allows a dump every other second and tossed up an FTP where the pictures end up, will post the IP: Port and login details before I implement it "
W T F?
Seriously. What the fuck is wrong with people? And why would anyone wanna take their own life live? It's not like they can read about the reactions after. And whats the point in craving attention if you're atually going through with killing yourself?
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