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 Ifrit.Eikechi
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-28 04:25:26
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5/5 convert is standard? ***...i'm behind the times I guess...I always though wind/ice/earth magic accs were focused on...good thing my rdm isn't 75 lol
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By Bismarck.Helixx 2010-09-28 04:26:55
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
rdm's actually merit convert recast? i had no idea
5/5 is standard, yes.

Bismarck.Helixx said:
You make it sould as if every RDM is better than every BLM, its like arguing Mac VS PC...

Get over yourself and tell me when your RDM has ever nuked a 2k+ Aero5, or a 1.5k+ Thunder4. Goodbye.
What? This is a discussion of job capabilities, not whether or not the player behind them has at least 3 brain cells to rub together.

Max damage isn't everything.

Yeah suddenly every RDM has a Ph.D. in engineering and every BLM is a school janitor. Good job figuring this out. You oversimplify matters, stating that every BLM has less capabilities hence it is automatically useless.

Good job, go nuke some Burst2 MB on Fafnir on RDM than talk again.

(obvioustroll)
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-28 04:27:45
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Bismarck.Helixx said:
(obvioustroll)
Indeed, provided you're talking about yourself here.
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By Bismarck.Helixx 2010-09-28 04:38:18
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BLM can gravity with /rdm (ES when needed)
BLM can convert with /rdm
BLM gets cure4, raise, erase, stona, silena, blindna, poisona on /whm
BLM can kite on /nin + manawall
BLM can stun, sleepga2, nuke t5 & am2

RDM can Gravity
RDM can convert
RDM can cure4 and raise, BUT NEEDS /WHM for: erase, stona, silena, blindna, poisona
RDM can kite
RDM can stun /drk
RDM can sleepga1 /blm

Your point being BLM cannot do anything but nuke?
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-28 04:43:00
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where did Night say that blm is only good for nuking?
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-28 04:44:01
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Bismarck.Helixx said:
BLM can gravity with /rdm (ES when needed)
BLM can convert with /rdm
BLM gets cure4, raise, erase, stona, silena, blindna, poisona on /whm
BLM can kite on /nin + manawall
BLM can stun, sleepga2, nuke t5 & am2

RDM can Gravity
RDM can convert
RDM can cure4 and raise, BUT NEEDS /WHM for: erase, stona, silena, blindna, poisona
RDM can kite
RDM can stun /drk
RDM can sleepga1 /blm

Your point being BLM cannot do anything but nuke?


bolded text = awesome argument lol
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-28 04:45:17
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You really, really need to work on your reading comprehension.
Bismarck.Helixx said:
BLM can gravity with /rdm (ES when needed)
RDM does it better, ES gravity is pretty much irrelevant in Abyssea because targets are either easily gravitied or completely immune
BLM can convert with /rdm
RDM main does it better
BLM gets cure4, raise, erase, stona, silena, blindna, poisona on /whm
Eliminating its ability to Gravity, Convert, cast Phalanx, all Fast Cast traits, etc. RDM/SCH has everything here except Stona.
BLM can semi-kite on /nin + manawall
RDM can kite too!
BLM can stun, sleepga2, nuke t5 & am2
RDM/DRK is a better stunner at the expense of some damage output, rendering this point situational but generally favoring RDM due to other critical debuffs. Sleepga II I've noted. I've also noted T5s' inferior MP efficiency and nobody gives a ***about AMII unless you're MBing because they're even worse than T5s.

RDM can Gravity
RDM can convert
RDM can cure4 and raise, BUT NEEDS /WHM for: erase, stona, silena, blindna, poisona
Addendum: White says sup
RDM can kite
RDM can stun /drk
RDM can sleepga1 /blm

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Your point being BLM cannot do anything but nuke?
I never said that, Brayenn specifically asked about how they compared as nuking jobs. If you actually bothered to read my posts, you'd find discussion of utility spells such as *gasp* Sleepga II and Stun, but also such as Slow/Para II and RDM's ability to Saboteur debuffs...
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By Gilgamesh.Ianpyst 2010-09-28 04:45:37
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:

bolded text = awesome argument lol

lulz
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By Bismarck.Helixx 2010-09-28 04:47:41
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god damnit /sch. just relized. Stona still stands tho XD
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-28 04:49:14
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RDM/SCH has everything here except Stona.
and both have to /WHM for it anyway. BLM loses more in the process than RDM does.
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By Bismarck.Helixx 2010-09-28 04:58:23
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Never said RDM sucks, just you make it out to be the only job that can do anything in game.

A group of RDM + BLM would be far superior to RDMonry. Let the RDM's and BLM's do their respective job.

Getting all angry and spouting: "we must be all RDM, all non RDM are inferior" is pretty low.
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That utility combined with comparable and possibly superior damage (situational etc) gives it the edge given the nature of Abyssea.

/shakeshead.
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2010-09-28 05:02:47
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1 RDM
2 THF
3 war or mnk

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Never said RDM sucks, just you make it out to be the only job that can do anything in game.

A group of RDM + BLM would be far superior to RDMonry. Let the RDM's and BLM's do their respective job.

Getting all angry and spouting: "we must be all RDM, all non RDM are inferior" is pretty low.

The problem is that BLM can't do what RDM can, while RDM can do what BLM can (kill stuff). Don't get me started on the "BLM is better DD than RDM" because it's also a crap DD anyway.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-28 05:04:04
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Bismarck.Helixx said:
Never said RDM sucks, just you make it out to be the only job that can do anything in game.

A group of RDM + BLM would be far superior to RDMonry. Let the RDM's and BLM's do their respective job.

Getting all angry and spouting: "we must be all RDM, all non RDM are inferior" is pretty low.
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That utility combined with comparable and possibly superior damage (situational etc) gives it the edge given the nature of Abyssea.

/shakeshead.
You're inferring things from my posts that aren't actually there. That's generally a bad idea.

Helpful hint:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
It's a shame, it's not like it's a bad job
First page, in reference to BLM. It's not like I insist on only having x jobs in a given situation, so please, please, learn to read.

Also
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By Bismarck.Helixx 2010-09-28 05:10:30
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It's not bad does not mean it is any good.
How many RDM's in a 6man manaburn pt would you take? 1? 2? 6? (onyl (RDM+BLM)

0rdm 6blm OMFG wtf r U DOIN!?
1rdm 5blm ok
2rdm 4blm ok
3rdm 3blm hmm
4rdm 2blm orly? maybe a brd instead or rdm?
5rdm 1blm WTF is that doing
6rdm 0blm only excuse: only RDM leveled.


just saying.

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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-28 05:14:13
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Bismarck.Helixx said:
It's not bad does not mean it is any good.
How many RDM's in a 6man manaburn pt would you take? 1? 2? 6? (onyl (RDM+BLM)

0rdm 6blm OMFG wtf r U DOIN!?
1rdm 5blm ok
2rdm 4blm ok
3rdm 3blm hmm
4rdm 2blm orly? maybe a brd instead or rdm?
5rdm 1blm WTF is that doing
6rdm 0blm only excuse: only RDM leveled.


just saying.
This isn't really relevant to Abyssea (party mechanics don't favor a full mage party, 100% guarantee you could come up with better setups for NMs) and it's only weakly related to prior discussion as you're gradually trying to drag this discussion away from where it originally started. If you won't stop wasting my time, I'm just gonna stop posting.
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By Bismarck.Helixx 2010-09-28 05:17:43
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Felt compelled to troll around in here, since whenever there is a job vs job argument, a RDMftw statement will show up sooner or later.
Also if you look on my previous post:
Bismarck.Helixx said:
#1 RDM
#2 BLM
#3 BRD > COR
I think I state RDM #1 usefull, but not RDM >> all in every aspect.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-28 05:19:16
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Bismarck.Helixx said:
Felt compelled to troll around in here, since whenever there is a job vs job argument, a RDMftw statement will shop up sooner or later.
Also if you look on my previous post:
Bismarck.Helixx said:
#1 RDM
#2 BLM
#3 BRD > COR
I think i state RDM #1 usefull, but not RDM >> all in every aspect.
It's 6 AM here, I'm honestly just too tired to play along any longer =\ I agree with that statement.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-09-28 05:20:45
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5:00am~ post while watching late night movies~
ridiculous job combinations that may actually be kinda cool to try at lvl 85+

drk/rng
blu/sch
war/drg
dnc/drk
blu/pld
blm/sch
drk/sch
war/blu
rng/drk
mnk/rdm
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-28 05:22:31
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Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
mnk/rdm
Suddenly, Brady guide.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-09-28 05:36:19
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
mnk/rdm
Suddenly, Brady guide.
o-o
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By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2010-09-28 05:46:30
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Bismarck.Helixx said:
BLM can gravity with /rdm (ES when needed) BLM can convert with /rdm BLM gets cure4, raise, erase, stona, silena, blindna, poisona on /whm BLM can kite on /nin + manawall BLM can stun, sleepga2, nuke t5 & am2 RDM can Gravity RDM can convert RDM can cure4 and raise, BUT NEEDS /WHM for: erase, stona, silena, blindna, poisona RDM can kite RDM can stun /drk RDM can sleepga1 /blm Your point being BLM cannot do anything but nuke?
bolded text = awesome argument lol

Blu can gravity. Twice.
Blu can convert with /rdm
Blu gets better cures than rdm.
Blu gets erase(Though self only).
Blu can kite.
Blu has ...6? stuns.
Blu can nuke.
Blu can bind.. 3 times.
Blu can Flash.
Blu can blind/para/slow.
Blu can sleep.. 4 times.
Blu can haste it's self for 5 minutes.
Blu can refresh it's self for 5 minutes
Blu has AOE stoneskin.
Blu has conserve mp.
Blu has fast cast.
Blu has poisonII
Blu has ect ect

Do I win?

Edit: Also behind the safety of /nin if you like.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-09-28 05:50:05
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if blu can erase others. then i'd say yes ^^
oh and don't forget blu can melee dps too
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By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2010-09-28 05:50:54
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DIFFUSION GO~ I WIN!
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2010-09-28 05:52:57
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im a little rusted with blu, is still the best sub /nin or dnc? i used to use /sch a lot when i used to be a taru
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-28 05:55:13
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Lakshmi.Emanuelle said:
im a little rusted with blu, is still the best sub /nin or dnc? i used to use /sch a lot when i used to be a taru
Way too situational. Like most the time I go in abyssea I find myself seriously lacking on healers and find myself tanking most the time so something like /nin is a bit necessary. Well unless I want to spend alot of my time in pdt gear or soemthing lol
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By Bubbly 2010-09-28 05:57:41
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RDM + BLU = *** amazing duo.
It really depends on the RDM and BLU though, but if they are skilled and properly geared, Purple Mage can do just about anything.
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By Phoenix.Lithical 2010-09-28 06:36:42
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5/5 Convert is standard and as someone with RDM and BLM both 85 I can tell you I find very little use for my BLM. If you need earth m.acc to land Slow on something that isn't resistant to begin with, you're not gearing your Slow2 correctly probably. RDM/SCH can be an incredible debuff/buff/healer one moment and a very efficient magic DD the next. Even with a lackluster nuke set like mine I've only found one thing so far in Abyssea that I didn't consistently nuke unresisted on. BLM has very little practical use for lowman groups, at least in my opinion. Wind merits are completely useless, almost anything that matters is immune to Gravity or Silence (Except Orobon that drops Masamune items, that I know of. Everything sticks on him but it doesn't matter either way since he has natural gravity), if it isn't, you don't need wind merits to stick it.

Edit: Everything but Poison** before someone remarks. That should be obvious though.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-09-28 06:44:27
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Most WANTED jobs...
1. SAM
2. MNK
3. BLM

Most USEFUL jobs...
1. MNK
3. PUP
3. SAM

Most FUN jobs...
1. PUP
2. MNK
3. DNC

Jobs you'll most likely level because you're an idiot...
1. SAM
2. NIN
3. PLD

edit:
Most awesomely depressing job...
1. DRK
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-28 06:46:07
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I'm 0/5 convert ;).

Either way if we already have a competent rdm chances are I'd be more useful on blm. Unresisted or not my blm does ALOT more dmg than my rdm and that's with my rdm doing similar tier for tier to alot of other blms
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2010-09-28 06:49:37
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Bubbly said:
RDM + BLU = *** amazing duo.
It really depends on the RDM and BLU though, but if they are skilled and properly geared, Purple Mage can do just about anything.
try rdm + bst it's so easy to duo things, i tried it on olla and hakutaku, very smooth and effortless
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