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Curtains for the Gorilla?
Caitsith.Linear
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By Caitsith.Linear 2010-09-26 18:38:41
Caitsith.Zefiris said: So... people are harassing her about 300k, not nudes? She's either a *** for not returning it, he's an *** for lying about it being a loan and wanting a gift back, or he should just suck up the loss and move on? :\ WTF iirc, he didn't ask for it (which she said was a gift, not loan) back until after she shot him down (again) when she broke up with someone and he started perving on her.
But yeah, this was pulled out well beyond what it should have. both look silly, but Val comes off as a creepy pervert. Meh.
Fenrir.Jadus
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By Fenrir.Jadus 2010-09-26 18:39:31
I was in Kenzoku LS for since I started XI pretty much..
I'm 19 now, 14 when I started playing. Valzan was pretty much manipulated me emotionally and used my insecurities to his advantage.
Sent me text messages constantly and said things to me that still make me a little sick to my stomach; made a lot of people think I was insane and a bad person. I'd post the pictures if I still cared or had them.
Caitsith.Zefiris
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-09-26 18:40:52
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: Why you would repeatedly call someone's phone over this crap, I have no idea. what are you doing? : / Curious as to wtf actually happened. I've been in a very similar situation myself, though it never sunk to the level of harassment charges. They posted on a public forum. I apologize for participating. It is fair to warn the community about someone, but only if that warning is justified.
Further testimonies seem to be proving a point though.
Fenrir.Mankey
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-09-26 18:41:07
Fenrir.Jadus said: I was in Kenzoku LS for since I started XI pretty much..
I'm 19 now, 14 when I started playing. Valzan was pretty much manipulated me emotionally and used my insecurities to his advantage.
Sent me text messages constantly and said things to me that still make me a little sick to my stomach; made a lot of people think I was insane and a bad person. I'd post the pictures if I still cared or had them. Valzans also in his 20's so now we looking at a pedo bear ohnoz
Gilgamesh.Valzan
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By Gilgamesh.Valzan 2010-09-26 18:41:09
Gilgamesh.Lylin said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: Nobody harassed her phone but she said they did? I'm confused for the 12th time. Caitsith.Linear said: I think Val might have. She DID block his, not other peoples. However, they apparently planned on texting her at some point. They haven't done it though, as far as I know. And she never said they did. Misread her OP and a bit of the SS. Right. As of a little while ago, she's never mentioned anyone spamming her cell but Valzan. She did say he'd made other email accounts to text her from, how many I'm not sure about. Some of them may or may not have been Val's rl friends. No way to prove it either way, unfortunately. Where the hell is there part in your screenshots? I recall mentioning that I never went out of my way to do anything (basically I never made any email accounts just to send her texts)
Caitsith.Zefiris said: So... people are harassing her about 300k, not nudes? She's either a *** for not returning it, he's an *** for lying about it being a loan and wanting a gift back, or he should just suck up the loss and move on? :\ WTF I have not lied about any money loaned and if anything about what is owed is wrong its that the total is smaller then it should be.
Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-26 18:41:23
Hey guys wha's going on?
Caitsith.Zefiris said: So... people are harassing her about 300k, not nudes? She's either a *** for not returning it, he's an *** for lying about it being a loan and wanting a gift back, or he should just suck up the loss and move on? :\ WTF Wait nudes!?! Where?
Caitsith.Zefiris
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-09-26 18:43:55
Ramuh.Dasva said: Hey guys wha's going on?
Caitsith.Zefiris said: So... people are harassing her about 300k, not nudes? She's either a *** for not returning it, he's an *** for lying about it being a loan and wanting a gift back, or he should just suck up the loss and move on? :\ WTF Wait nudes!?! Where? I'm being a dumbass, and confused.
Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-26 18:45:06
Caitsith.Zefiris said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Hey guys wha's going on? Caitsith.Zefiris said: So... people are harassing her about 300k, not nudes? She's either a *** for not returning it, he's an *** for lying about it being a loan and wanting a gift back, or he should just suck up the loss and move on? :\ WTF Wait nudes!?! Where? I'm being a dumbass, and confused. Awwwwww. /comfort
Maybe cause you was woken up rudely and still confused?
Sylph.Oddin
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-09-26 18:45:32
Fenrir.Mankey said: Fenrir.Jadus said: I was in Kenzoku LS for since I started XI pretty much..
I'm 19 now, 14 when I started playing. Valzan was pretty much manipulated me emotionally and used my insecurities to his advantage.
Sent me text messages constantly and said things to me that still make me a little sick to my stomach; made a lot of people think I was insane and a bad person. I'd post the pictures if I still cared or had them. Valzans also in his 20's so now we looking at a pedo bear ohnoz
Caitsith.Zefiris
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-09-26 18:46:31
Ramuh.Dasva said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Hey guys wha's going on? Caitsith.Zefiris said: So... people are harassing her about 300k, not nudes? She's either a *** for not returning it, he's an *** for lying about it being a loan and wanting a gift back, or he should just suck up the loss and move on? :\ WTF Wait nudes!?! Where? I'm being a dumbass, and confused. Awwwwww. Maybe cause you was woken up rudely and still confused?
>:{ It's life Das.
Oddin's pics are always win!
Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-26 18:47:32
Caitsith.Zefiris said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Hey guys wha's going on? Caitsith.Zefiris said: So... people are harassing her about 300k, not nudes? She's either a *** for not returning it, he's an *** for lying about it being a loan and wanting a gift back, or he should just suck up the loss and move on? :\ WTF Wait nudes!?! Where? I'm being a dumbass, and confused. Awwwwww. Maybe cause you was woken up rudely and still confused? >:{ It's life Das.
Oddin's pics are always win! Lol angry face is angry. But I suppose it is.
/poke
Oh yeah reminds I should find pics to go with whatever is being said
Gilgamesh.Valzan
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By Gilgamesh.Valzan 2010-09-26 18:48:34
Fenrir.Mankey said: Fenrir.Jadus said: I was in Kenzoku LS for since I started XI pretty much.. I'm 19 now, 14 when I started playing. Valzan was pretty much manipulated me emotionally and used my insecurities to his advantage. Sent me text messages constantly and said things to me that still make me a little sick to my stomach; made a lot of people think I was insane and a bad person. I'd post the pictures if I still cared or had them. Valzans also in his 20's so now we looking at a pedo bear ohnoz Dude arent you older then me and you ended up with the same girl? Jadus, good to see you didn't quit like you told our ls you planned to do. But I never said anything to make people think you were insane and most ppl still just think you left to goto that school overseas like you'd been talking about.
Sylph.Oddin
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-09-26 18:49:08
Caitsith.Zefiris said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Caitsith.Zefiris said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Hey guys wha's going on? Caitsith.Zefiris said: So... people are harassing her about 300k, not nudes? She's either a *** for not returning it, he's an *** for lying about it being a loan and wanting a gift back, or he should just suck up the loss and move on? :\ WTF Wait nudes!?! Where? I'm being a dumbass, and confused. Awwwwww. Maybe cause you was woken up rudely and still confused?
>:{ It's life Das.
Oddin's pics are always win!
Fenrir.Jadus
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By Fenrir.Jadus 2010-09-26 18:53:43
I did quit, my friend has my account I just say hello sometimes.
Gilgamesh.Silvermutt
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By Gilgamesh.Silvermutt 2010-09-26 18:55:03
Gilgamesh.Valzan said:
Where the hell is there part in your screenshots? I recall mentioning that I never went out of my way to do anything (basically I never made any email accounts just to send her texts).
Ok, sure. Maybe you didn't create any just for the purposes of texting her with emails, but you did use an existing one. valzan@gmail.com doesn't ring any bells? Or maybe you were wondering who signed up your address for gay porn sites? Still no bells ringing?
Point being, she blocked your number for a reason. She wants nothing to do with you. Sending her texts via email is just as bad and just as harassing.
Sylph.Oddin
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-09-26 18:55:28
Fenrir.Jadus said: I did quit, my friend has my account I just say hello sometimes.
Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-09-26 18:55:46
Sylph.Oddin
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-09-26 18:57:56
By Flionheart 2010-09-26 18:59:16
Fairy.Spence
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-09-26 19:00:16
It's about time there's some lulz in here!
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-09-26 19:00:29
that *** be trippin yo
Sylph.Oddin
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-09-26 19:00:32
Phoenix.Elaenia
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By Phoenix.Elaenia 2010-09-26 19:01:40
Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-26 19:02:11
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Phoenix.Elaenia
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By Phoenix.Elaenia 2010-09-26 19:05:21
Sean Connery: Knock, knock.
Alex Trebek: Who's there?
Sean Connery: Me, the guy who slept with your mother last night!
By Flionheart 2010-09-26 19:06:07
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Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-26 19:07:54
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Fenrir.Jadus
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By Fenrir.Jadus 2010-09-26 19:11:01
Phoenix.Elaenia said: Sean Connery: Knock, knock.
Alex Trebek: Who's there?
Sean Connery: Me, the guy who slept with your mother last night!
lol
but yeah I feel bad for anyone that still hangs around Valzan
Phoenix.Elaenia
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By Phoenix.Elaenia 2010-09-26 19:12:38
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Gilgamesh.Valzan
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By Gilgamesh.Valzan 2010-09-26 19:13:54
Gilgamesh.Silvermutt said: Gilgamesh.Valzan said: Where the hell is there part in your screenshots? I recall mentioning that I never went out of my way to do anything (basically I never made any email accounts just to send her texts). Ok, sure. Maybe you didn't create any just for the purposes of texting her with emails, but you did use an existing one. valzan@gmail.com doesn't ring any bells? Or maybe you were wondering who signed up your address for gay porn sites? Still no bells ringing? Point being, she blocked your number for a reason. She wants nothing to do with you. Sending her texts via email is just as bad and just as harassing. lol .... thats not my email... Also Jadus leave hyso a message, he likes to ask about you from time to time not that I know what to tell him
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Firstly many of you won't get the title so let me explain that it refers to a video designed to find out how well people pay attention and as that everyone has been looking at one side of a story here and not even bothering with the other I think it's semi relevant. But back to the main purpose of this and informing you all of the other side.
It all started back around March sometime during a besieged I recieve a tell from this Mistrissyuki asking if I remembered her, it took a moment but I did remember her from like 6 years ago when a mutual friend introduced us one day. We started to talk from there and began to start chatting rather often to the point of her logging on and immediatly sending me tells daily. Then in May she dumps her bf Daemorien of almost 2 year and becomes rather sad about the whole ordeal, this is only made worse by the fact that just a few days later on what would of been thier 2 year mark together he sends her a letter pointing out all her flaws and talking about how messed up she is. I was willing to listen to all her problems here and she was pretty open about the whole thing to the point of talking about how he was the first boy she ever saw naked and she'd give him fillatio, take showers together, and that the only time she ever masterbaited was for him over the phone. (This is the only time masterbaition or her being nude was ever mentioned and I in no way asked her to disclose such information to me nor did I ever at a later date ask to see her nude)
Now I suppose what I could of done here was ignore her and her problems or just agreed with her ex but instead I choice to try and cheer her up by giving her gifts she'd always wanted (yes I do admit I gave her gifts sometimes, but not all the time) and by helping her on missions in CoP. The missions worked out for a lot of reasons one being SE just took the cap away and another being I had 2 friends doing the same ones as her as well as one of them having a friend on the same ones. This is the only time I became "pushy" as there was always 3 other people waiting on us and wanting to get it all done, yes there was no longer and cap and I could burn through so much of it by myself but if your helping other ppl and got other ppl doing the same stuff wont you try and keep them all together? (At no point durring or after all this did I say she owed me in anyway for the help I was providing on these missions) But still she began to slack off and the others went on ahead and we stopped doing missions. It was also at this point that we pretty much stopped doing anything together unless she was asking me to get her into a party I was in and once or twice I was able to do so.
By now it was kind of starting to become clear that unless I was doing something for her or loaning her gil or items (ah yes loans, this is the stuff you agree to pay back and it was often her that would remind me that she still needed to pay me back most of the time) she would pretty much ignore me throughout the day. One day I decide that I would just ignore her aswell, besides the fact that I was also busy with a group of people the entire day, this however doesn't seem to sit to well with her so at 12:44am (still on my phone) she calls me, dispite always saying her parents dont like her talking to people out of her area code and that they are threatining to take her phone away, anyway I answer it and she goes on some long rant about her life and all this other crap I didn't pay much attention too but at the end of the conversation everything seems well enough.
We talk off and on still for a few days at one point she even reminds me yet again that she owes me still. Then about the 4th or 5th day after calling me she gets upset about something and at this time decided to blacklist me. Now I have good friends in this game, ones I have known a lot longer then 6 months and as friends they are willing to ask her to atleast pay back what she owes as I was unable to do so, I assure you none of them harrassed her on the matter and few probably sent more then 1 tell asking for her to pay what she has admittiedly stated she owed. Days ago on the 23rd one of her friends who shares a ls with me says that he will start selling his gear immediately to raise the money and pay off her debt for her, I don't want to make anyone broke so I tell him to take his time and I am willing to accept the offer and be done with the whole situation.
But sadly 2 days later it seems I have become part of a topic here on the Gilgamesh forums, one that portrays me as some fd up person with a horde of problems which is simply not true. Dispite what she will say about this this is not a retaliation, this is me giving my side simply because it's the fair thing.
Putting a horribly long story short I never asked for nude photos, I never asked lewd questions, I tried to reach a simple settlement by just having the loans repayed. This part probably makes far more sense because when I type a lot of stuff like I did it can become retarded.
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