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Death sentences are far more expensive for the tax payer.
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Ramuh.Dasva said: Lakshmi.Flavin said: Death sentences are far more expensive for the tax payer. Ramuh.Dasva said: Lakshmi.Flavin said: Death sentences are far more expensive for the tax payer. Ramuh.Vinvv said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Lakshmi.Flavin said: Death sentences are far more expensive for the tax payer. oh look! A .org website! It's not a .com so it must be true </sarcasm> hint hint: 4chan Ramuh.Dasva said: Lakshmi.Flavin said: Death sentences are far more expensive for the tax payer. Cerberus.Kalyna said: Ramuh.Dasva said: What happened to the dude? And did the daughter want it? Where does it end? Violence begets violence. Are we really much better than her if we just go and kill her? There are cosequences to our actions and she should not be allowed to roam free because she will most likely hurt someone else. To take a life though, if it can be prevented, is it really our right to take that from someone? even if they are percieved to be evil. Cerberus.Kalyna said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Lakshmi.Flavin said: Death sentences are far more expensive for the tax payer. oh look! A .org website! It's not a .com so it must be true </sarcasm> hint hint: 4chan that wasn't my point in the least, they quote sources and whatnot. you need to stop wandering outside of Ni Kaly. /eyeroll and if you have a better source by all means. Sylph.Beelshamen
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That's all the light I'll shed on this subject. Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Lakshmi.Flavin said: Death sentences are far more expensive for the tax payer. Anyways quick read shows the extra cost comes purely from extra steps taken to ensure an innocent person isn't excuted compared to someone given life without parole. Which I find kinda silly. Sure we can take away a guys entire life like that but we can't actually take his life without all that stuff. But sure the sentence is. However actually going thru with it once pronounced does save money Lakshmi.Flavin said: Are we really much better than her if we just go and kill her? There are cosequences to our actions and she should not be allowed to roam free because she will most likely hurt someone else. Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Lakshmi.Flavin said: Death sentences are far more expensive for the tax payer. oh look! A .org website! It's not a .com so it must be true </sarcasm> hint hint: 4chan that wasn't my point in the least, they quote sources and whatnot. you need to stop wandering outside of Ni Kaly. /eyeroll and if you have a better source by all means. most .org websites i saw were all ***. example http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html Asura.Catastrophe said: This underlaying contradiction I see every day in any political venue. I don't want to make this a political debate, but the inherent values the parties stood up for is long gone. That statement you make is exactly what is going on in congress today and everyday thereafter. How can you support less government but prevent a mosque being built somewhere. How can you have less government and want prayer in schools again? How can you have better economic results by devaluing the currency? Let's be honest, they just enjoy not agreeing with each other for the sake of it. So they basically spend all their time trying to twist things into ways the other guy is bad, in order to distract from the fact there's basically nothing about themselves that's good. And if that thing you're accusing the other guy of, is the very thing you did a few weeks ago, well... no matter, as long as people don't remember for the election. The worst step is news as infotainment, or misinfotainment as the case may be. Now you don't even need to be confronted with the other side at all if you don't want to. Just turn on Fox, or MSNBC, and get told by politicians-as-paid-anchors that everything you already believe is right, then go to bed feeling happy and superior. And if anyone raises even the tiniest bit of evidence you might be wrong, scream "BIAS!" and refuse to even consider it. Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Lakshmi.Flavin said: Death sentences are far more expensive for the tax payer. Cerberus.Kalyna said: Lakshmi.Flavin said: Are we really much better than her if we just go and kill her? There are cosequences to our actions and she should not be allowed to roam free because she will most likely hurt someone else. Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Lakshmi.Flavin said: Death sentences are far more expensive for the tax payer. oh look! A .org website! It's not a .com so it must be true </sarcasm> hint hint: 4chan that wasn't my point in the least, they quote sources and whatnot. you need to stop wandering outside of Ni Kaly. /eyeroll and if you have a better source by all means. most .org websites i saw were all ***. example http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html /sigh seems whatever you see must be true. http://www.justice.gov/dag/pubdoc/deathpenaltystudy.htm
tl;dr but i'd prefer a .gov than a .org on the subject at hand. (i.e. death penalty stats) Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Asura.Catastrophe said: This underlaying contradiction I see every day in any political venue. I don't want to make this a political debate, but the inherent values the parties stood up for is long gone. That statement you make is exactly what is going on in congress today and everyday thereafter. How can you support less government but prevent a mosque being built somewhere. How can you have less government and want prayer in schools again? How can you have better economic results by devaluing the currency? Let's be honest, they just enjoy not agreeing with each other for the sake of it. So they basically spend all their time trying to twist things into ways the other guy is bad, in order to distract from the fact there's basically nothing about themselves that's good. And if that thing you're accusing the other guy of, is the very thing you did a few weeks ago, well... no matter, as long as people don't remember for the election. The worst step is news as infotainment, or misinfotainment as the case may be. Now you don't even need to be confronted with the other side at all if you don't want to. Just turn on Fox, or MSNBC, and get told by politicians-as-paid-anchors that everything you already believe is right, then go to bed feeling happy and superior. And if anyone raises even the tiniest bit of evidence you might be wrong, scream "BIAS!" and refuse to even consider it. Ramuh.Vinvv said: They need to add a little * sign in the bottom corner of anything on Fox telling people not to take everything at face value. People like being told they're right, and will keep tuned to channels that don't make them think about the possibility they might be wrong about something. Everyone likes to think they're part of some fundamentally correct, righteous majority. It feels good. It's fantastic business. Cerberus.Kalyna said: http://www.justice.gov/dag/pubdoc/deathpenaltystudy.htm tl;dr but i'd prefer a .gov than a .org on the subject at hand. (i.e. death penalty stats) I don't really worry about the content, I worry about what's sited in the content and what that goes to and I assume others do the same. But I do like .govs more as well, just didn't see any on page 1 of google. Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: They need to add a little * sign in the bottom corner of anything on Fox telling people not to take everything at face value. People like being told they're right, and will keep tuned to channels that don't make them think about the possibility they might be wrong about something. Everyone likes to think they're part of some fundamentally correct, righteous majority. It feels good. It's fantastic business. This thread is growing quickly.
Ramuh.Vinvv said: Cerberus.Kalyna said: http://www.justice.gov/dag/pubdoc/deathpenaltystudy.htm tl;dr but i'd prefer a .gov than a .org on the subject at hand. (i.e. death penalty stats) I don't really worry about the content, I worry about what's sited in the content and what that goes to and I assume others do the same. But I do like .govs more as well, just didn't see any on page 1 of google. Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra
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The problem is that no one is willing to take the first step into fixing the division we've made.
Or that those that are, have no idea how to. We do need to take our nation back; despite the fact that I don't support the party that says that, I cannot deny that it is true in ways they don't really parade about. We need to collectively own up and say, "Yeah, we done and gone *** up good, let's put this ***behind us and get back to work." Repost from a blog entry I made, but:
----------------------------------- It's really sad to see what's happening to the country these days. At this point, I think the prevailing mood is helplessness and confusion. Tax cuts didn't work. Spending didn't work. There is no magic bullet. We're in a period of great economic fear and uncertainty, in the grips of complex forces beyond our control, and nobody seems to have the answers. We don't even have an obvious villain to blame. So we start making ***up. We cling to conspiracy theories that wrap inherent complexity in an easily understood package with a clear antagonist. We embrace simple, wholesome fictions of bygone virtue, escape to them in our own heads, and encourage others to join us there. Anything to simultaneously identify a malevolent force behind our predicament, and help us purge our guilty sense of collective complicity by establishing stark but entirely contrived lines of delineation between Us and Them. Basic logic and internal consistency be damned, at this point. Anything to make us feel better. Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Ramuh.Vinvv said: They need to add a little * sign in the bottom corner of anything on Fox telling people not to take everything at face value. People like being told they're right, and will keep tuned to channels that don't make them think about the possibility they might be wrong about something. Everyone likes to think they're part of some fundamentally correct, righteous majority. It feels good. It's fantastic business. Cerberus.Kalyna said: I could make a webpage with fake sites on fake articles on a .org website to make it look real. I just take most things I see with a grain of salt. The reason I hate politics is because of all the people that can't think for themselves. If you agree with every single proposition your party makes, then there's a problem. I will never associate myself with a political party. I look at issues one at a time, and base my opinion off of what I believe. I couldn't care less which party supports my beliefs.
Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Lakshmi.Jaerik said: What gets me is the lack of consistency. The people who scream loudest about how the government is over-powered and intrusive, out of control and oppressive, incompetent and inept, are the same ones that want to drastically expand the same government's ability to swoop in and kill them. People, in my experience, tend to favor their own views and rarely think about how contridictory they are as long as they fall in line with their own morals/way of life. Your example is a good one. People, in general, also don't seem to put much wieght on things that don't affect them personally. I for one fall victim to that at times because you never really know what you'll do/say/think/feel unless your in the situation. I know I have thought I'd act a certain way at times but when it came down to it and it was right in front of my face things are different. Basically though we live in a society that seems to be dominated by this mentality of we want everything and we want it our way specifically. With that comes many contradictions. People want those deemed evil by society to pay and when it comes their turn to face the piper think it should be different. Major political parties just seem to pander to what they think the general public wants to hear. There is always more than one side to a story and as cliche as it is very little is black and white. Life seems to be a give and take. If you advocate one thing be sure you know what your promoting. Its like the few radical pro-lifers out there that actually go out and kill people because they they do something that is thought to be morally wrong and murder though is gennerally accepted by the public. How can a persons argument be held valid if they contrdict it so vehemently with thier actions? Ramuh.Krizz said: The reason I hate politics is because of all the people that can't think for themselves. If you agree with every single proposition your party makes, then there's a problem. I will never associate myself with a political party. I look at issues one at a time, and base my opinion off of what I believe. I couldn't care less which party supports my beliefs. Take what i agree with, whoever has the most gets my vote, get it done, go home, play video games and not give a ***what the guy actually does, as long as he doesn't ban my video game. Ramuh.Krizz said: The reason I hate politics is because of all the people that can't think for themselves. If you agree with every single proposition your party makes, then there's a problem. I will never associate myself with a political party. I look at issues one at a time, and base my opinion off of what I believe. I couldn't care less which party supports my beliefs. Whats funny is that you think your individuality is rewarded with consideration by someone who matters when deciding these topics |
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