My dog of what 9 years had this inoperable tumor that caused him constant pain and agony and we put him down. I feel that putting him down with Euthanasia was humane :/
I would rather have had him die that was over dying without it.
Anyway, that ***makes me feel bad.
bleh.
If you think that putting it out of it's misery is acceptable, then that's fine with me, because that is your choice.
A shot from a needle or a shotgun work the same, only differences is the costs.
But I'm sorry that your dog had cancer and was in pain, I think you did the best thing for him.
Humane would be putting down an animal knowing it wants to be put down. Not because you know its sick and you believe it will stop the animal from suffering.
Of course, it's a thin line because animals aren't able to communicate that exact clause to us.
If it knew it was about to be ripped open/boiled alive I'm pretty sure it would give it's consent to be less horrifyingly killed.
Humane would be putting down an animal knowing it wants to be put down. Not because you know its sick and you believe it will stop the animal from suffering.
Of course, it's a thin line because animals aren't able to communicate that exact clause to us.
I'm pretty sure humane means:marked by compassion, sympathy, or consideration for humans or animals
Humane isn't a very heavy word on it's own.
You have to have sentiment behind it.
I wanted my dog to be put down because it was in constant pain and I know exactly why it was in constant pain, no doubt about that.
And I'd say letting it die is compassionate,sympathetic, and considerate for the situation.
Do you have a grudge with the over-use of the word humane or what?
I'm a bit confused.
Humane would be putting down an animal knowing it wants to be put down. Not because you know its sick and you believe it will stop the animal from suffering.
Of course, it's a thin line because animals aren't able to communicate that exact clause to us.
I'm pretty sure humane means:marked by compassion, sympathy, or consideration for humans or animals
Humane isn't a very heavy word on it's own.
You have to have sentiment behind it.
I wanted my dog to be put down because it was in constant pain and I know exactly why it was in constant pain, no doubt about that.
And I'd say letting it die is compassionate,sympathetic, and considerate for the situation.
Do you have a grudge with the over-use of the word humane or what?
I'm a bit confused.
No, no grudge, notice you used a lot of "I"s in your reply. Not once did you state if the pet wanted it or not. But like I said, thin line.
Did you do what you thought was best, out of compassion? Sure.
Vegetarian isn't the same as vegan.
She was one of those damn octowhatevers.
Pretty much the ones that just don't eat meat because they think it's icky.
She stopped being a vegatarian after I tricked her into eating chicken.
Notice what you need to have that vegetarian diets don't provide?
Protein, Calcium, Iron, Zinc, B12.
Try getting that in a salad.
And try living without it, I tell you that it probably won't be a fun life.
Did you even look at that link.
Lol at all vegetarians eating a salad.
I was a vegetarian in highschool because I was dating a *** who was also vegetarian.
I've had verification in regards to the spunk being sweeter on that note.
of course I looked at it, where do you think I got my info from?
Proteins come mainly from meats, and although there are substitutions available (tofu being one) it isn't as abundant as meats, so you would have to eat alot of beans and tofu to get the daily portion you need. I don't wana be near you when you do, however.
You can find substitutions for everything above, but it will really limit what you eat, and you would end up eating more than what a meat eater would usually eat.
Plus, the cost of it all would be astronomical. I don't see how anyone can afford to be a vegetarian.
Vegetarian isn't the same as vegan.
She was one of those damn octowhatevers.
Pretty much the ones that just don't eat meat because they think it's icky.
She stopped being a vegatarian after I tricked her into eating chicken.
One of those who don't eat meat but will eat turkey, chicken, fish etc since the meat isn't red... Good thing ejaculate isn't red. Hopefully.
Notice what you need to have that vegetarian diets don't provide?
Protein, Calcium, Iron, Zinc, B12.
Try getting that in a salad.
And try living without it, I tell you that it probably won't be a fun life.
Did you even look at that link.
Lol at all vegetarians eating a salad.
I was a vegetarian in highschool because I was dating a *** who was also vegetarian.
I've had verification in regards to the spunk being sweeter on that note.
of course I looked at it, where do you think I got my info from?
Proteins come mainly from meats, and although there are substitutions available (tofu being one) it isn't as abundant as meats, so you would have to eat alot of beans and tofu to get the daily portion you need. I don't wana be near you when you do, however.
You can find substitutions for everything above, but it will really limit what you eat, and you would end up eating more than what a meat eater would usually eat.
Plus, the cost of it all would be astronomical. I don't see how anyone can afford to be a vegetarian.
From what I've seen, price to weight ratio, it's about the same.
But I see you're arguing the nutrient content, which then yeah it would be hard to maintain an acceptable "healthy" lifestyle.
Humane would be putting down an animal knowing it wants to be put down. Not because you know its sick and you believe it will stop the animal from suffering.
Of course, it's a thin line because animals aren't able to communicate that exact clause to us.
I'm pretty sure humane means:marked by compassion, sympathy, or consideration for humans or animals
Humane isn't a very heavy word on it's own.
You have to have sentiment behind it.
I wanted my dog to be put down because it was in constant pain and I know exactly why it was in constant pain, no doubt about that.
And I'd say letting it die is compassionate,sympathetic, and considerate for the situation.
Do you have a grudge with the over-use of the word humane or what?
I'm a bit confused.
No, no grudge, notice you used a lot of "I"s in your reply. Not once did you state if the pet wanted it or not. But like I said, thin line.
Did you do what you thought was best, out of compassion? Sure.
Ok. Let me fix the definition then.
Humane:marked by compassion, sympathy, or consideration for humans or animals. This also must be consensual, if it is not don't even consider using the word humane.
Humane would be putting down an animal knowing it wants to be put down. Not because you know its sick and you believe it will stop the animal from suffering.
Of course, it's a thin line because animals aren't able to communicate that exact clause to us.
If it knew it was about to be ripped open/boiled alive I'm pretty sure it would give it's consent to be less horrifyingly killed.
Are you really this *** stupid?
Then would you rather be shot in the head?
Or have your neck broken?
Cause, hate to tell you this, but thats how most farms kill their food animals. That and beheading them. Most of the time (if done right) the animal doesn't feel a thing, or at least doesn't squack/cry out in pain.
Ethics: yes, Princemercury really is that *** stupid.
And thank you Vinvv, for using your brain and putting Princedouchebaggery in his place.
Don't expect him to understand compassion and sentiment, though. Dude only has anger and sexual frustration to draw on. No positive emotions.
And Randomguy, wtf? You equate a shotgun blast with euthanasia? You might want to get a psychological examination.
Notice what you need to have that vegetarian diets don't provide?
Protein, Calcium, Iron, Zinc, B12.
Try getting that in a salad.
And try living without it, I tell you that it probably won't be a fun life.
Did you even look at that link.
Lol at all vegetarians eating a salad.
I was a vegetarian in highschool because I was dating a *** who was also vegetarian.
I've had verification in regards to the spunk being sweeter on that note.
of course I looked at it, where do you think I got my info from?
Proteins come mainly from meats, and although there are substitutions available (tofu being one) it isn't as abundant as meats, so you would have to eat alot of beans and tofu to get the daily portion you need. I don't wana be near you when you do, however.
You can find substitutions for everything above, but it will really limit what you eat, and you would end up eating more than what a meat eater would usually eat.
Plus, the cost of it all would be astronomical. I don't see how anyone can afford to be a vegetarian.
From what I've seen, price to weight ratio, it's about the same.
But I see you're arguing the nutrient content, which then yeah it would be hard to maintain an acceptable "healthy" lifestyle.
Still a lot of food.
I may be fat, but there is no way I can eat as much as a veggiemite is "supposed" to eat to survive.
Vegetarian isn't the same as vegan.
She was one of those damn octowhatevers.
Pretty much the ones that just don't eat meat because they think it's icky.
She stopped being a vegatarian after I tricked her into eating chicken.
One of those who don't eat meat but will eat turkey, chicken, fish etc since the meat isn't red... Good thing ejaculate isn't red. Hopefully.
What a dumb ***.
That's how most of the girls I dated back then were.
Only girl I ever dated that I actually could talk to on the same level...ehhhh I dumped her .
Yeah I'm a ***.
Ethics: yes, Princemercury really is that *** stupid.
And thank you Vinvv, for using your brain and putting Princedouchebaggery in his place.
Don't expect him to understand compassion and sentiment, though. Dude only has anger and sexual frustration to draw on. No positive emotions.
And Randomguy, wtf? You equate a shotgun blast with euthanasia? You might want to get a psychological examination.
Quit with the insults.
Jesus.
We have a good conversation going and you come in and ***on everything.
edit: some people may be surprised with that fact that I hate bandwagoning.
I like making claims to what I say, that and I can't vouch for dipshit A or dipshit B(don't take this as an insult...general example not pointing any fingers) who decides to agree with me at all times.
annoys me.
i eat meat, its yummy etc, but meat is much, much more healthier to consume when the animal is less traumatized.
i don't think you guys would really enjoy eating a cow if you saw it had all types of lesions and infected sores on its body from being beat and neglected before being placed in the grinder.
Cause, hate to tell you this, but thats how most farms kill their food animals. That and beheading them. Most of the time (if done right) the animal doesn't feel a thing, or at least doesn't squack/cry out in pain.
Well firstly it doesn't even have to be killing the animal. Most of the time horrible ***is done to it during it's life, cutting off of horns, castration, tail docking, beak removal, and this is all done without any sort of pain killer.
As far as killing it goes, I'm not sure where you get your information, but if you want I can get you the video of them boiling and cutting open pigs while they're squealing to high hell, same thing with cows.
I think there was some HBO special on factory farms, perhaps where the videos in this thread are already from, don't know, don't like watching that kind of stuff.
i eat meat, its yummy etc, but meat is much, much more healthier to consume when the animal is less traumatized.
i don't think you guys would really enjoy eating a cow if you saw it had all types of lesions and infected sores on its body from being beat and neglected before being placed in the grinder.
If grounded meat is cooked correctly, I would eat it even seeing it.
I will admit. If I had to kill my own animals, I would most likely be vegetarian. This is one reason why I don't care how slaughter houses handle it.
i eat meat, its yummy etc, but meat is much, much more healthier to consume when the animal is less traumatized.
i don't think you guys would really enjoy eating a cow if you saw it had all types of lesions and infected sores on its body from being beat and neglected before being placed in the grinder.
How many farms actually run like that? Then and now?
It isn't profitable for a farm to abuse their products. It lowers the poundage and poundage = money.
What that video was just a stupid farmer. He probably was the poorest in the area when they filmed it, and he probably didn't even know who the filmmakers are or what they are for when they filmed it.
Cause, hate to tell you this, but thats how most farms kill their food animals. That and beheading them. Most of the time (if done right) the animal doesn't feel a thing, or at least doesn't squack/cry out in pain.
Well firstly it doesn't even have to be killing the animal. Most of the time horrible ***is done to it during it's life, cutting off of horns, castration, tail docking, beak removal, and this is all done without any sort of pain killer.
As far as killing it goes, I'm not sure where you get your information, but if you want I can get you the video of them boiling and cutting open pigs while they're squealing to high hell, same thing with cows.
I think there was some HBO special on factory farms, perhaps where the videos in this thread are already from, don't know, don't like watching that kind of stuff.
Or you could just see it on the first page.
Also like others have pointed out all those videos show is the worst of the worst NOT COMMON PRACTICE.
