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 Bismarck.Cordareo
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By Bismarck.Cordareo 2010-08-24 06:59:16
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I don't understand why companies still use the Ye olde model of sales; Put Disc in store, charge $60, Hope it sells, make money (or not wolol) is a really old model.

I like the concept of rentals. Why not make demos more wildly available, then if a person likes it, allow them to rent it for X amount of Y Currency for Z days. I haven't purchased a new game since I was 16 simply because I'm not shelling out 60 dollars for a game I might not like. I don't care how AAA the title is, it's still not worth $60.

Let's make an example,

Say I go to Wally-World and wanna get a new game. I look on a console set up with the list of games I can get, I take my 32GB flash drive and plug it in, then I can feed the machine cash for a rental, or feed it $60 and it'll burn a DVD copy of the game on the spot and provide me a case and disc with a PDF of the game manual.

This eliminates a huge amount of waste in paper, and plastic (especially large game cases made of plastic. This allows me the option of buying a game or renting it digitally with an expiration on the data that'll encrypt it if I choose to not rerent it. This also opens up the model of not needing internet to rent games this way. I personally wouldn't mind running down to the store with $20 to rent a couple of games for 10 days. Since most games are honestly not worth $60+.

You could even do a time card dillio where the game is locked, but you can unlock it for X amount of time so if you get say, your sister coming over from out of country you can cancel your time saving your rental so it isn't wasted and then uncancel it after she leaves.

Or, we could stay to the old model of 60 dollar over sized plastic junk that lasts us 8 hours and is now officially useless to us. Hi2uSingularity, which I pirated and will never purchase simply because it's a waste of money to me.

You could even do $1 an hour gameplay since games last X amount of hours to some people.

Long post short,

Pirating will last as long as the model never changes. The whole point of pirating is receiving IP without paying. The way to fix pirating is to not attack the problem, but solve the underlying issues that cause people to pirate. I don't know what loses a company more, A model that saves people money or a model that forces people to steal from you.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-24 07:01:55
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Yup lol, it's what made it so awesome. The gameplay of that game was truly unique. It was the first game to use Quick time events too, and so many games leech off of that these days.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-24 07:03:07
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Asura.Deadwing said:
@OP you don't understand the concept of intellectual property

I do, I just choose to ignore it.
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By Cerberus.Ethics 2010-08-24 07:03:30
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I've alerted the RIAA/MPAA to the activities of this thread. Be prepared to pay for your hentai collection(s).
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By Cerberus.Kalyna 2010-08-24 07:04:32
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Cerberus.Ethics said:
I've alerted the RIAA/MPAA to the activities of this thread. Be prepared to pay for your hentai collection(s).
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-24 07:05:00
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Cerberus.Ethics said:
I've alerted the RIAA/MPAA to the activities of this thread. Be prepared to pay for your hentai collection(s).

Always bringing so much to a thread, as per usual.
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By Cerberus.Ethics 2010-08-24 07:05:43
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Cerberus.Ethics said:
I've alerted the RIAA/MPAA to the activities of this thread. Be prepared to pay for your hentai collection(s).

Always bringing so much to a thread, as per usual.

>>Implying you better start deleting six out of seven of your hentai hard drives aka hhd.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-24 07:06:00
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Asura.Deadwing said:
@OP you don't understand the concept of intellectual property
The way it is used now isn't what was originally intended not by far.
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By Ifrit.Keeria 2010-08-24 07:06:07
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Yup lol, it's what made it so awesome. The gameplay of that game was truly unique. It was the first game to use Quick time events too, and so many games leech off of that these days.
While it's not the first game to use them, it certainly was one of the first to use them properly. It made for some very fun sequences that surprised the player a lot on the first play-through.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-08-24 07:06:27
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I still bought the game at full retail though, the only thing that annoyed me was the music quality had dropped to compress it onto the minidiscs. It was so noticeable too :(

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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-24 07:06:41
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Thank god for the block function
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By Cerberus.Ethics 2010-08-24 07:08:04
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Thank god for the block function

>>Implying I win.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-24 07:09:55
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I never actually completed Shenmue 2 annoyingly. I got the DC version but it was in japanese >.>
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-08-24 07:10:27
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ask anyone, pirating movies and music will not go away as long as The Man keeps trying to sell that ***for too much money.
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By Ifrit.Keeria 2010-08-24 07:10:34
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
I never actually completed Shenmue 2 annoyingly. I got the DC version but it was in japanese >.>
So was the one I played, but it had optional English subtitles, making it playable.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-08-24 07:11:37
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Trust me it was better than the horrible Eng Dub version. Shenmue 2 was a masterpiece, and <3'd Ren. Whole third disc was seriously just QTEs though, no exploration and no fights. Had a pretty epic ending though.
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By Ifrit.Keeria 2010-08-24 07:12:56
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Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
Trust me it was better than the horrible Eng Dub version. Shenmue 2 was a masterpiece, and <3'd Ren. Whole third disc was seriously just QTEs though, no exploration and no fights. Had a pretty epic ending though.
Lol. Run through the forest for like two hours with occasional QTEs, yeah. Still awesome, though.

And Ren was teh sex.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-24 07:13:15
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I really want to play it, but I just don't think I can bring myself to play it when I know there will be no Shenmue III >.>
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-08-24 07:14:44
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Ryu was such a tard getting screwed by Ren's fake dice? I think it was. Oh man, the huge long QTE on disc 2 before you fight the fat guy. And that crazy *** with a chainsaw, swear I had nightmares of her.
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By Ifrit.Keeria 2010-08-24 07:14:53
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
I really want to play it, but I just don't think I can bring myself to play it when I know there will be no Shenmue III >.>
I've actually been aching to replay either/both of those games, but without my Dreamcast or an Xbox, it probably won't happen until they're either ported or properly emulated.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-08-24 07:15:53
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
I really want to play it, but I just don't think I can bring myself to play it when I know there will be no Shenmue III >.>

It's worth it if anything, Ryu was added quite recently into Sonic Racing or some Mario Kart rip off. So they haven't forgotten about him. Hoping they put Shenmue 3 into production during my lifetime :<
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By Ifrit.Keeria 2010-08-24 07:16:01
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Ryu was such a tard getting screwed by Ren's fake dice? I think it was. Oh man, the huge long QTE on disc 2 before you fight the fat guy. And that crazy *** with a chainsaw, swear I had nightmares of her.
That QTE made me so extremely angry when I was first playing it. Always was the part of that game I absolutely dreaded, especially the very end (I think you had to hit several buttons at once or something).
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-08-24 07:18:13
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Yeah AFTER the fight with the fat dude you had to do this long QTE, if you failed had to do the fight again. Then you learn that move you can never use since there's no more fights :/ The fight in the tower against that judo Girl was great, people falling to their deaths all over the place.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-24 07:18:15
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I really loved the VMU's too lol. They were clunky and had batteries, but seeing your chao on the little screen was awesome.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-08-24 07:19:51
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I really loved the VMU's too lol. They were clunky and had batteries, but seeing your chao on the little screen was awesome.

I had those too, skived off school work playing with it. I freaked out when my chao evolved, cause it gets the same animation as when they die xD
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-08-24 07:21:04
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Pirating is bad don't do it, *goes to download new movie*
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-24 07:21:34
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The first time I had a Dreamcast I didn't have a VMU so I had to keep starting Sonic Adventure again and again lol. I remember getting to the part with knuckles about 30 times.
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By Ifrit.Keeria 2010-08-24 07:22:20
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
I really loved the VMU's too lol. They were clunky and had batteries, but seeing your chao on the little screen was awesome.
I remember those things, but I never replaced my batteries after the first death. I was like twelve and couldn't get my mom to buy 'em.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-24 07:23:52
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Ifrit.Keeria said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
I really loved the VMU's too lol. They were clunky and had batteries, but seeing your chao on the little screen was awesome.
I remember those things, but I never replaced my batteries after the first death. I was like twelve and couldn't get my mom to buy 'em.

Lol same. My dad sold them though luckily, so I could leech some from him XD
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