I love how all the bandwagon SAM's cling to hagun because they are like sheep and are told to.
Yet we get a new JA that boosts SC/MB damage which is in fact a similar spike in damage (how much yet obviously unknown) and everyone calls it useless or nerfed.
If you see a fragmentation and gekko like a *** instead of kasha for light then yeah.... gtfo please.
SAM Update?
SAM Update?
Meh sams aren't that good imo. Looking from a different perspective in the game, they are versatile, but not really op.
I see the age of wars coming up and I like it.
I see the age of wars coming up and I like it.
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Meh sams aren't that good imo. Looking from a different perspective in the game, they are versatile, but not really op.
I see the age of wars coming up and I like it.
I see the age of wars coming up and I like it.
RNGs are getting a huge boost as well. Can't wait to see if Double Shot stacks with weaponskills. True Shot on top of that.
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Meh sams aren't that good imo. Looking from a different perspective in the game, they are versatile, but not really op.
I see the age of wars coming up and I like it.
I see the age of wars coming up and I like it.
I can't tell you the number of times i go to birds and see SAM's with gkatana. "oh i don't have polearm yet".
Or askar body SAM's... hell even domaruuuu SAM.
Yeah...
I am definitely complaining here. I have been a 75 Sam since 2005. Just pissed that SE trying to *** over Sam.
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@Eikechi
Funnily enough, Soboro-Sukehiro is NOT lol. It is, in fact, better than Hagun. I think Kurodachi might be slightly better than Soboro? I don't remember.
Haste Samba benefits SAM more than it does DNC, because they can get more Haste. In fact, if I'm right, that 10% haste from Samba is ~50% increase for SAM.
That saber dance isn't nearly as effective as you'd like to think it is. You're only going to be sitting at ~70% DA with Athame and ~72.5% with Joyeuse for the first minute it's up. While that's pretty high, it diminishes by 10% ever minute. Hasso is a static effect. Overwhelm is a static effect as long as you're positioned properly.
That A+ and B+ gap will get larger as the level cap increases, too.
Funnily enough, Soboro-Sukehiro is NOT lol. It is, in fact, better than Hagun. I think Kurodachi might be slightly better than Soboro? I don't remember.
Haste Samba benefits SAM more than it does DNC, because they can get more Haste. In fact, if I'm right, that 10% haste from Samba is ~50% increase for SAM.
That saber dance isn't nearly as effective as you'd like to think it is. You're only going to be sitting at ~70% DA with Athame and ~72.5% with Joyeuse for the first minute it's up. While that's pretty high, it diminishes by 10% ever minute. Hasso is a static effect. Overwhelm is a static effect as long as you're positioned properly.
That A+ and B+ gap will get larger as the level cap increases, too.
SEfails said:
I am definitely complaining here. I have been a 75 Sam since 2005. Just pissed that SE trying to *** over Sam.
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SEfails said:
I am definitely complaining here. I have been a 75 Sam since 2005. Just pissed that SE trying to *** over Sam.
So sekk is now /SAM so what? Good for the other jobs that can properly use /SAM. Continue about the day... no huge deal lol.
SEfails said:
I am definitely complaining here. I have been a 75 Sam since 2005. Just pissed that SE trying to *** over Sam.
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Not to even *** mention that because they dropped it to 40 that SAM 40+ now have sekk making it even better for low levels.
People expect too *** much i guess these days lol.
People expect too *** much i guess these days lol.
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I'm kinda pissed off about the fact that one of our main JAs (Sekkanoki) is being given to 80/SAM's now and we aren't getting *much* to replace it. It has yet to be seen whether or not the SC/MB bonus will be worth using (if it's like 5% bonus, I'm gonna *** rage for days >_>), and if it's a decent "replacement" as our Job-Specific JA.
And Clin, I'm one of those SAMs who doesn't use PA at birds... coz my PA build currently sucks nuts and I still do more dmg with GK ;D I'm still a main SAM though ^-^
And Clin, I'm one of those SAMs who doesn't use PA at birds... coz my PA build currently sucks nuts and I still do more dmg with GK ;D I'm still a main SAM though ^-^
I know Sam is overpowered and i spend most of my time on Mnk it is just i can't stand it that other jobs get the full Sekkanoki. they could have made it so that TP over 150% is kept and i would be perfectly happy. they can nerf Sam for all i care just didnt want to see Sekkanoki being a SJ ability.
Linear, you sound like you make a valid point..I guess I don't quite understand exactly how much Saber Dance increases a dnc's potential..../shrug like I said, I'm no 75 dnc, just speculating what they can now potentially do.
Guess I really don't have anything to worry about eh? I'm excited about the new sam JA as I love to self SC darkness, and any boost to SCs is fun to play around with (HOPEFULLY it will bring back the dead art of SC and MB lol)
Guess I really don't have anything to worry about eh? I'm excited about the new sam JA as I love to self SC darkness, and any boost to SCs is fun to play around with (HOPEFULLY it will bring back the dead art of SC and MB lol)
I would feel the same way if i was Nin with this Daul Weild ***too.
I bet SEfails is a lolsam.
A good sam wouldn't feel worried about this.
A good sam wouldn't feel worried about this.
SEfails said:
I would feel the same way if i was Nin with this Daul Weild ***too.
Apart from everything that subs it gets it.
What's wrong with you?
Phoenix.Raigne said:
And Clin, I'm one of those SAMs who doesn't use PA at birds... coz my PA build currently sucks nuts and I still do more dmg with GK ;D I'm still a main SAM though ^-^
As long as you understand polearm and how much it can increase you're damage that's fine. It's the same SAM's i see every single time that weeks/months down the road STILL don't have polearm and rock an askar body.
Also i wouldn't mind 5% SC/MB+ damage because either way its an increase. But 5% is just being skeptical i would assume 10% or more.
It's just amazing how many people ***the bed when its ONLY the level 80 mark... we still have 85 90 95 99 to go people -.-.....
Ya, Clin makes a good point too...many updates to go :P I'm officially not worried about ***anymore... thx folks for easing my temporary angst
SEfails said:
I would feel the same way if i was Nin with this Daul Weild ***too.
I am a lolSam i don't have perfect builds like everyone else.
SEfails said:
I am a lolSam i don't have perfect builds like everyone else.
Then don't worry, everything out DD's you Sekka or not.
I just figure we would finally keep a JA (non merit) that was decent. might as well start playing Rng more now lol.
SEfails said:
I just figure we would finally keep a JA (non merit) that was decent. might as well start playing Rng more now lol.
So wtf was the point of THAT is more of a screwover.
Shiva.Flionheart said:
SEfails said:
I am a lolSam i don't have perfect builds like everyone else.
Then don't worry, everything out DD's you Sekka or not.
Yeah Clinpachi i agree completely. And actually about me getting out DD'd by everything; not so much does that happen.
i just wanted to vent my rage and now im better ty.
i just wanted to vent my rage and now im better ty.
Siren.Clinpachi said:
SEfails said:
I just figure we would finally keep a JA (non merit) that was decent. might as well start playing Rng more now lol.
So wtf was the point of THAT is more of a screwover.
well actually Clin, whm merits the AOE of both of those so now you don't have to spend the money/time to farm the scroll of the single target on whm... and sch only gets it with accession (i mean aoe) and that could cost a *** ton of mp lol...so its a minor screw job, i'll agree there, but not huge
Siren.Clinpachi said:
SEfails said:
I just figure we would finally keep a JA (non merit) that was decent. might as well start playing Rng more now lol.
So wtf was the point of THAT is more of a screwover.
Sucks that you wasted merits on it in the first place but isn't this a good thing? Now you will free up merits for something else no?
Bad sam's are some of the worst DD's ever. Sam seems to pass a certain point and get awesome, but Sam's that are unintelligently geared (hi2u 7hit str build for tp) do awful damage.
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