SAM Update?

Can't quote for some reason but this is from Linear

"You kidding me, right?

Let me know when other jobs get an ability as powerful as overwhelm. Oh, and Higher tiers of STP! or up to 180 TP from Meditate. Or a WS that pretty much insta-caps pDif on like, 99.9% of the monsters in the game.

SAM doesn't need a damn thing."

while its true that nothing is quite like overwhelm (which I have capped at 5/5) and 180 tp meditates are nice (but SUPER rare), Dnc still has the TP potential as a sam now (or close ot it) with DW and /sam's STP, and meditate if you combine it with reverse flourish and saber dance and off-hand joy since it now has native DW...

Now I'm not saying sam "needs" anything to be really great, as i still love the job above all else, but I would have LOVED tactical parry..I spent many many many hours capping my parry on 75 sam, and I would have loved that JT because my parry procs INSANELY freqently capped at 75...and Conserve TP would have been nice...idk why Dnc got those 2...what is dnc's parry? nothing compared to nin I dont think (which was the other job that got Tac Parry)...

Thats all I was getting at...other jobs got a major boost to be on par if not better than Sam now...though I'm just gonna have to push harder to excel on sam, which is good, because maybe it will force the "trendy sams" to not suck lol


edit: and I'm not one of those "band wagon" sams..i've had the job at 75 since..like 04-05 lol

True, TONS of people play Sam but a good chunk of those people are bad. You know what I'm talking about, guys running around TPing with flame rings and full hachi. Which is why I don't get the sam hate, and the Sam is OP comments. It's not always the best dd, if these guys are outparsing you it's your fault, not sam's for being OP.

So after years of being the over-powered DD job, now the SAMs are QQing because the other DDs are catching up.

lol @ DNC comparing to SAM, btw. DRG... eh, we didn't need Spirit Jump to catch up. WS, Meditate, Jump, High Jump, ready to go again. Sekkanoki just makes it easier. And hey, we've got that A+ when it comes to bird camps 8D Your B- is just going to fall further and further behind on accuracy.

what ever,

Mwuahahhaha the time of DRK is upon us goodbye SAM.

you don't think with that MASSIVE amount of TP, and highest DA rate in game (while maintaining full haste), it won't compare to sam? how does it NOT compare?

Never been out parsed by a SAM on RNG, ever. Not once. Can't wait for 80 to blow SAMs out completely. Thanks for the Sekkanoki!

Giving DRG an OAT polearm that maintains a 6-hit didn't help the cause either.

Holy crap... I see a lot of butthurt samurai up in here...

Well, while you guys are busy /crying over the opposite of a nerf I'll be sittin here on my cool *** THF spamming Despoil making cool *** DPS on my awesome additional effect herpes steal.

:D

2H bonus, Hasso, stronger meditate, higher x-hit build, not spending TP on cures/debuffs, overwhelm, higher skill rating for primary weapon...

overall dmg

every job should be doing the absolute best it can 100%,
DD's should be DD'ng hard, tanks should be tanking hard and not losing hate, and mages should be maging hard, there is enough gear out there for each job to be at its best, let the mages stack 500 mps or nuke and the tanks should do just that too, keep hate stack emnity, vit and def,

lmao.. Herpes Steal.

Tactical Parry: NIN lv 77 DNC lv 77 Grants TP bonus when parrying an attack.

NIN parrying skill A- 269 @75

DNC parrying skill B 250 @ 75

SAM parrying skill A- 269 @75

Why wouldn't SAM get a parrying JA when they have an A- rating compared to DNC B rating?

Conserve TP: RNG 80 DRG 45 DNC 77 Occasionally cuts down TP cost of weaponskills.

SAM is the "Master of TP" so it would make sense to give it this JA. But I can see why SE didn't give them it because they have plenty of other ways to maintain TP; Meditate, Sekkanoki, Store TP.

Oh wait, Meditate lvl 30, Sekkanoki lvl 40, Store TP 10 30 and 50. Everyone will have what SAM has for maintaining TP>

*** this means more time in the tree to cap parrying >.>;;

dam i justed relised that grrr

They wont get Store TP III at 50 even at 99, also SAM will probably get a Store TP V or VI trait on the way up along with other TP bonuses so you can stop whining. Furthermore, DNC probably got that job trait because instead of spending TP on WS's more then half the time they're spending tp on steps/waltzes/sambas etc. The 5TP or whatever that they'll get probably won't even be that big of a deal.

so i herd u liek sam

sam tp seat:

i've seen it...

The fact that you even made that item set is painful. X.X

rofl, this

*** you SE you really *** fail with this update. Sam was suppose to be the master of TP...with this update every other job is just as good. Might as well give Sam 2hr to every other job too. No conserve TP!? WTF SE please stop trying to *** this game over even more.

here it comes again..

i said comparible....you're making it sound like its not possible for a dnc to even come close if they go FULL BLOWN DD..i'm talkin enough healers so they don't need to use TP for that (which i know is a rare situation to find yourself in..but i'm just saying for argument's sake)

lets go ahead and give you an example of what I'm talkin about then.... Lets imagine a dnc/sam at 80:

Dnc/sam has OaT knife mainhand and joyeuse off-hand (lets take haste samba out of the equation as it would boost the sam equally).

With Saber Dance, in addition to these 2 OaT weapons, you're basically going to never stop attacking 4x a round (if I understand exactly how the OaT procs and how often Saber Dance enhances DA..As I'm not 75 dnc..I'm just speculating what could potentially go down)...4 hits with those weapons are gonna yield roughly 20ish TP if not a lil more right? thats a 5 "hit" build no? Not saying you're gonna land 100% of your hits, but with sushi you can come pretty f-in close (i also have 8/8 sword merits on my char personally so it makes joy more viable), some dncs are gonna have suppa earring for more sword skill and another tier of DW as well...essentially giving them more gear haste.

Now when a sam hits 200 TP or more and have Sekkanoki ready (and meditate) they can 3 step SC if they are very lucky (unless they are using lolSoboro or new Kurodachi). Dnc is gonna be able to 3 step, maybe 4 step with ease or 2x 2 step. Dnc: 200+ TP + sekkanoki = 2 steps + meditate for 60 as that is going you're still attacking with those same OaT weapons and in full haste you can get a couple attack rounds off and still SC so by the time you hit 100 again you can land the third step of the SC (if dnc gets a 3 step darkness I'm pretty sure they do) and as soon as you WS the third time, dnc can pop reverse flourish for 75 tp if capped merits 1 more attack round or 2 will let them SC again, so they can do 2 2 step SCs in one big burst while that would be near impossible for a sam (without an OaT weapon)...

I use the 2 OaTs on dnc as the example because they (i think) are more common than a sam using OaT...

now I'm saying in some cases this will out do a sam I think, or has the potential to.

Stop being a pussy. SAM will still be the master of tp and sucking against RNGs.

I can't tell if he's trying to be funny, or really whining.

Look at it this way:

If you go Gekko > Meikyo > Yuki > Gekko > Sengi > Kasha, with skillchain bonus trait, isn't it entirely conceivable that you'd be doing a 4000 Light SC on top of the extra damage a BLM can MB for AND the rest of the damage for your 2hr? Isn't it entirely possible that that entire process has the potential to do 10000 damage OR MORE?

Not to mention even with /SAM it's gonna take other DDs quite a while to store up 200 TP whereas we can do it with a Meditate and 2-3 hits?

That's all to say nothing of what Tachi: Ageha will bring to the table.

We're still the king, baby.