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By fonewear 2017-03-31 09:17:16
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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So then, he was surveiled right (Even if it was incidental)?

I mean let's get what we can agree on agreed upon.

No, that's not how it works. I know you are grasping at straws to try to score points for Trump for some reason.

Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
As for why they were unmasked and leaked, I'm genuinely curious as to what your conclusion is.

I don't have any.

Asura.Kingnobody said: »
And yet, they don't have evidence stating that any crime was committed. Nor are they making any accusations of such foul play.

I see you are completely oblivious as to how an investigation works.

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So, they make ***up, and that is what this "investigation" is all about. That, and political character assassination.

Let me ask you something, was all the crap about Benghazi / Emails / Big Uranium character assassination of Hillary Clinton?
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By Viciouss 2017-03-31 09:17:50
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Trump was never the target of any surveillance before the election. Thats what is being investigated, what was the Trump team doing with Russia during the primary season, during the Presidential campaign.

Its nice how nausi has moved the goalposts to focus on the legal activity that happened after the election, but Trump's entire fictional narrative was accusing Obama of spying on him in October, which he has never backed up with any evidence. There is no FISA warrant, there was no spy program on Trump.
 
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By fonewear 2017-03-31 09:19:42
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This is all a cover up to cover up the cover up !
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By fonewear 2017-03-31 09:20:24
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-31 09:20:41
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Viciouss said: »
Trump was never the target of any surveillance before the election.

lol yeah political parties would never do a thing like that...
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By fonewear 2017-03-31 09:23:01
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The only way to keep NSA from spying on you is to use Russian IP address that filters through a VPN in Moscow...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2017-03-31 09:25:20
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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incidental collection

I like that you don't see anything at all wrong with this statement...

You should really delete your browser history more often... and maybe rethink the nomenclature on your porn folders...they're kind of obvious.

just saying.
Well on that note the house just voted to remove restrictions on companies so that they can now collect and market information on your browsing history, health information and other data without your consent...

It won't matter if you delete your browser history anymore...
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-31 09:30:31
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
It won't matter if you delete your browser history anymore...

let's face it... it probably never did...

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-31 09:32:04
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Let me ask you something, was all the crap about Benghazi / Emails / Big Uranium character assassination of Hillary Clinton?
That's not character assassination. None of that ***is made up.

Or are you saying that Benghazi never occured? Clinton never kept an email server illegally offsite holding government and top secret information? Clinton never helped a Russian company purchase another company that held 20% of the uranium production in America?

Are you saying those events never occurred?
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By fonewear 2017-03-31 09:32:16
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
incidental collection

I like that you don't see anything at all wrong with this statement...

You should really delete your browser history more often... and maybe rethink the nomenclature on your porn folders...they're kind of obvious.

just saying.
Well on that note the house just voted to remove restrictions on companies so that they can now collect and market information on your browsing history, health information and other data without your consent...

It won't matter if you delete your browser history anymore...

Short of using a VPN and routing your IP address to another country this is correct.

https://qz.com/945261/how-to-get-a-personal-vpn-and-why-you-need-one-now/
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-03-31 09:32:52
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So, Trump is backing Flynn's request for immunity. As expected, he isn't afraid of what Flynn has to say.
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By fonewear 2017-03-31 09:34:20
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If the NSA is reading this...yes I have weird fetishes but I"m working on it !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-31 09:34:35
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we weren't targeting hillary clinton...just some bad apples at the state department... and she just happened to work there...

it was all purely incedental.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-31 09:36:49
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fonewear said: »
If the NSA is reading this...yes I have weird fetishes but I"m working on it !

there is obviously a line... that we'll call "the jared line".... for no particular reason. as long as you don't go full jared you should probably be ok. unless they're borad or they don't like your political views...
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By fonewear 2017-03-31 09:37:46
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Even with mass surveillance and Russian spies they'll never take down this website it uses the latest technology:

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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-31 09:39:34
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By Viciouss 2017-03-31 09:41:02
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
So, Trump is backing Flynn's request for immunity. As expected, he isn't afraid of what Flynn has to say.

He should probably stay out of it, but its not like we should expect anything close to proper behavior from Trump. Chaffetz has come out and said no to immunity, also saying Trump should stay out of it.

As for Trump being "afraid," he probably doesn't know what Flynn has done, its not like there was a good vetting process on him prior to being named NSA.
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By fonewear 2017-03-31 09:42:13
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Meanwhile this is what Bill Gates is famous for:

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By fonewear 2017-03-31 09:45:00
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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The graphics is out of this world !

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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-31 09:47:26
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
she wasn't to blame for anything else

whew! thank you.

I haven't laughed that hard in a while.
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By fonewear 2017-03-31 09:48:27
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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That's not character assassination. None of that ***is made up.

Or are you saying that Benghazi never occured? Clinton never kept an email server illegally offsite holding government and top secret information? Clinton never helped a Russian company purchase another company that held 20% of the uranium production in America?

Are you saying those events never occurred?

So you are saying there is no investigation? Sure, ah right, there's an investigation we have absolutely no information about except it concern Trump's Team and Russia, but you know they have no evidence because you have access to classified information.

Besides the email thing, she wasn't to blame for anything else on those stories. So by your standard it should be character assassination.

So now, what about with Obama being Kenyan / Muslim, creating ISIS and all that crap, wouldn't that also be character assassination?

Wow, who knew Trump supported all those claims and more, what a really bad person, sad!

That's what I call being an hypocrite.
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By fonewear 2017-03-31 09:50:17
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
It won't matter if you delete your browser history anymore...

let's face it... it probably never did...


When he gets out of prison he's going to make his own Sandwich shop for pre teens !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-03-31 09:53:21
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Viciouss said: »
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So, Trump is backing Flynn's request for immunity. As expected, he isn't afraid of what Flynn has to say.

He should probably stay out of it, but its not like we should expect anything close to proper behavior from Trump. Chaffetz has come out and said no to immunity, also saying Trump should stay out of it.

As for Trump being "afraid," he probably doesn't know what Flynn has done, its not like there was a good vetting process on him prior to being named NSA.

Let's put aside all pretense here. The only reason the Russia connection is being pursued is to hurt Trump. That's it. Nobody cares about the purity of the electoral process so long as their candidate wins, so don't even pretend for a second that you wouldn't be pulling a "nothing to see here" if Hillary were in the exact same situation.

That being said, if Trump "doesn't know" what Flynn has done, then it can't be used to hurt Trump. It would only hurt Flynn, and who cares about Flynn now... except for what he can do to Trump? This is why I said what I said about him yesterday. It's just bait to get immunity, and anything he has to say won't prove Trump personally colluded with Russia.
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By fonewear 2017-03-31 09:54:00
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
she wasn't to blame for anything else

whew! thank you.

I haven't laughed that hard in a while.

Good for a laugh:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-it-matters-that-pence-wont-have-dinner-with-a-woman-who-isnt-his-wife_us_58dd1740e4b05eae031d949c?section=us_women
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-03-31 09:55:27
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Let me ask you something, was all the crap about Benghazi / Emails / Big Uranium character assassination of Hillary Clinton?

Hillary Clinton BROKE the law. She trafficked in classified information, she abandoned our diplomats, and she facilitated the sale of nuclear fuel assets to a global rival for her own personal enrichment.

If you or I did any of these things, we'd be in prison. In certain cases we'd be barred from running for public office for the rest of our lives. Clinton, because of her class got a pass.

Most people characterize this as an obvious form of injustice.
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By fonewear 2017-03-31 09:55:42
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So Mike Pence did something is devoted to his wife and the feminist are going nuts or something I didn't read it cause it looks stupid !
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By Viciouss 2017-03-31 09:55:53
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
So, Trump is backing Flynn's request for immunity. As expected, he isn't afraid of what Flynn has to say.

He should probably stay out of it, but its not like we should expect anything close to proper behavior from Trump. Chaffetz has come out and said no to immunity, also saying Trump should stay out of it.

As for Trump being "afraid," he probably doesn't know what Flynn has done, its not like there was a good vetting process on him prior to being named NSA.

Let's put aside all pretense here. The only reason the Russia connection is being pursued is to hurt Trump. That's it. Nobody cares about the purity of the electoral process so long as their candidate wins, so don't even pretend for a second that you wouldn't be pulling a "nothing to see here" if Hillary were in the exact same situation.

That being said, if Trump "doesn't know" what Flynn has done, then it can't be used to hurt Trump. It would only hurt Flynn, and who cares about Flynn now... except for what he can do to Trump? This is why I said what I said about him yesterday. It's just bait to get immunity, and anything he has to say won't prove Trump personally colluded with Russia.

Well, as long as you are ok with accusing the Republicans with leading this effort that you say is going on.
 
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