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By Jetackuu 2014-09-24 18:47:57
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Alot
is not a word

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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-09-24 18:48:31
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All I've seen is people jumping on the bandwagon to get someone fired.

Xray pictures could be from google as more of a joke ~

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=xray+pictures&biw=1525&bih=752&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=kFYjVOvwBoTV7gaAtYDwDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=0.9

Oh look millions of results... I think picture 2 might be of mt great anti sue from like a bajillion years ago.

She's been accused of a crime right? Well I'm accused of being a tremendous ***, which in all fairness I am, but there's no proof.

How many times do people get accused by incorrect ***? By incompetent eye witnesses?

http://www.ehu.es/malenmigueles/articulos/european.pdf

This is an article meaning eyewitness testimony is normally ***. Don't hate the player, read how stupid humanity is in this vetted article.

She may very well just look similar, or have just been in the vicinity. Evidence is all in how it stacks and is interpreted it is not infallible.

NOT saying she is innocent, I'm saying, don't get an opinion over something that's 99.99% hearsay so far where most of it could be shown wrong, making and solidifying an opinion now is tantamount to stupid as we make 90% of our minds up from a first impression and this would obviously skewer any further impressions later once we see evidence proving her innocence.

Take a minute, and think, you're condemning what might be an innocent party.
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By Jetackuu 2014-09-24 18:48:54
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Assault is a felony.
Not by default it isn't, there's misdemeanor assault charges on the books.
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By Bloodrose 2014-09-24 18:49:22
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idk, she definitely looks better in her *** suit than in her mugshot

Instagram filters!
I'm just surprised nobody's giving me ***for calling it a slutsuit.
well, what else should we call it?
A dress?!
 
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-09-24 18:50:44
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Jetackuu said: »
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idk, she definitely looks better in her *** suit than in her mugshot

Instagram filters!
I'm just surprised nobody's giving me ***for calling it a empowerment-suit.
There ftfy.
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By Bloodrose 2014-09-24 18:51:15
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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idk, she definitely looks better in her *** suit than in her mugshot

Instagram filters!
I'm just surprised nobody's giving me ***for calling it a empowerment-suit.
There ftfy.
Go home chaos, you're not fonewear.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-09-24 18:51:46
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Fenrir.Candlejack said: »
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Alot of what she did should not have any repercussions. Thoughts she said or posted or talked about... all 1st amendment. She was the right to voice her opinions.

And what someone does outside of work, should not be considered in whether a person gets fired (in most cases.) Work can judge you at work, they are not life police.

That being said, if she indeed posted x-rays and what not of her patients... then she should be gone. Thats a violation on several categories. I think even illegal.

As for the assault, which i haven't bothered watching, that stands on its own. Let the punishment fit the crime to the full extent of the law.
If convicted in the crime and the hospital fires her, remember: Assault is a felony. Most employers don't want convicted felons on the payroll. Plus, using the first amendment only goes so far in protecting hate speech. Why do you think the neo-nazis and the KKK get in trouble whenever they distribute their propaganda

Thats why i said MOST. Some jobs you cant have with certain things on your record.

So far i haven't seen her 'distributing' anything, merely voicing her opinion/belief. Even if she is an idiot'
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By Jetackuu 2014-09-24 18:52:08
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Fenrir.Candlejack said: »
Bloodrose said: »
Jetackuu said: »
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Jetackuu said: »
idk, she definitely looks better in her *** suit than in her mugshot

Instagram filters!
I'm just surprised nobody's giving me ***for calling it a slutsuit.
well, what else should we call it?
A dress?!
Slutsuit, eh? Lol, good one, Jet. Mind if I adopt that phrase?
go for it,

Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Jetackuu said: »
idk, she definitely looks better in her *** suit than in her mugshot

Instagram filters!
I'm just surprised nobody's giving me ***for calling it a empowerment-suit.
There ftfy.

Thanks Chaos, where's fone when you need him to go on a feminist tirade?
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By Leviathan.Xsoahc 2014-09-24 18:52:21
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Ah Philadelphia, the city of brotherly love.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-09-24 18:54:54
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Fenrir.Candlejack said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Jetackuu said: »
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Jetackuu said: »
idk, she definitely looks better in her *** suit than in her mugshot

Instagram filters!
I'm just surprised nobody's giving me ***for calling it a empowerment-suit.
There ftfy.
Go home, you fedora wearing neckbeard!
If I was going to sport a fedora, I would do so with an ascot as well.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-09-25 09:24:50
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Exactly. It's unsavory and could be against some policy. If they wanted to fire her or revoke her license for that violation, have at it, she'd deserve it. I just can't support firing someone because they were charged with a crime unless that directly violates a policy, in which case I'd have a serious issue with that policy for obvious reasons. People are falsely accused quite often, that's a cornerstone of the anti-death penalty argument.

The hospital just suspended her today. ABC is reporting her as an ER tech not an RN. so I dunno...

3 CHARGED IN ATTACK ON GAY COUPLE IN CENTER CITY PHILADELPHIA SURRENDER TO POLICE

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All three people charged in an attack on a gay couple in Center City Philadelphia surrendered to police on Wednesday.

They are:

-Kevin J. Harrigan, 26, from the 1000 block of Gotland Circle in Warrington, Pa.

-Kathryn G. Knott, 24, of the 1200 block of Melody Lane in Southampton, Pa.

-Phillip Williams, 24, of the 100 block of Acorn Drive in Warminster, Pa.

All three are charged with aggravated assault, criminal conspiracy, simple assault and recklessly endangering another person.

Meanwhile, because of the charges, Knott has been suspended from her job as an emergency room tech for Abington Health's Lansdale Hospital, where she has worked since 2011.

In addition, Abington Health said it was investigating potential privacy violations involving Knott. This comes after reports that Knott posted pictures of patient x-rays to her Twitter account.

"Abington Health takes patient privacy and confidentiality very seriously and is fully investigating this matter," the hospital said in a statement.

Action News has confirmed Knott is the daughter of Chalfont, Bucks County Police Chief Karl Knott.

Administrative suspensions aren't uncommon and it's warranted to investigate the report of HIPAA or policy violations. Firing her simply because she's accused to a crime would be BS.
 
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-09-25 10:28:15
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Assuming that she actually violated HIPAA. If she posted the x-rays online but didn't include any personally identifiable information, she might not be punishable under HIPAA rules.

However, regardless of HIPAA findings, I doubt that the hospital will retain her services. In the very least, they'll axe her just to save face.
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By Ramyrez 2014-09-25 10:39:21
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Why do you think the neo-nazis and the KKK get in trouble whenever they distribute their propaganda?

They do? I was pretty sure they did so pretty liberally...
 
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-09-25 11:11:31
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Fenrir.Candlejack said: »
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Assuming that she actually violated HIPAA. If she posted the x-rays online but didn't include any personally identifiable information, she might not be punishable under HIPAA rules.

However, regardless of HIPAA findings, I doubt that the hospital will retain her services. In the very least, they'll axe her just to save face.
On at least one of the posted x-rays, if you zoom in close enough, you actually can make out the patient name on the computer's toolbar.

That is what would make it a hipaa violation, not the xray itself.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-09-25 11:12:07
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If that's true, then she's screwed.

Personally, even after zooming, I can't read the text on the toolbar. For all I know, that could just be the name of the application.

It'd be one thing if I knew the name of the victims in the assault so I could compare the text, but I can't seem to find them anywhere - they've most likely been suppressed.

-edit- Nevermind, I misunderstood, I thought the x-rays were related to the attack. I didn't realize that was a separate issue.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-09-25 11:22:36
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I will say though, just looking at the tweeted picture, it's a stretch to link that to homophobic hatred.

Perhaps the patient actually was cleaning out the gutters of his house in the rain, slipped, fell, and broke his ***.
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By fonewear 2014-09-25 11:40:17
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has a propensity to drink at home, and is so annoyed when her parents give her checks instead of cash:
Please tell me she's single. I hope no beta orbiter gave in.
idk, she definitely looks better in her *** suit than in her mugshot:

slutsuit:



mugshot:


I'll be writing her letters in prison...
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-09-25 12:28:24
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Odin.Jassik said: »
That is what would make it a hipaa violation, not the xray itself.

I was speaking to physicians and nurses about this who work in hospitals. It's a HIPAA violation regardless. She doesn't have access to those documents. Access to those documents is strictly reserved for the treating physician/s.

So like my friend was saying last night, a bigger question is how did she access those files? Nurse or ER Tech, she isn't supposed to have access to those files.

But again like they are all saying her charges AND the posting of the x-ray/ct scans really are grounds for termination and revocation of her license. It goes back to moral conduct, the hospital has the right to terminate staff over immoral conduct outside of work. The state has the right to revoke licenses over immoral conduct. That's the way it's been forever medical practitioners are held to a higher moral standard.
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By Jetackuu 2014-09-25 12:37:18
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I'm not particularly sure if that's a HIPAA violation for a nurse/tech to see your xray when they're usually the one who takes it...

Hell when I was working for the hospital I was allowed access to my own records, I could have gotten into others but was only allowed into my own.

I looked up the picture they took of a laceration at one point. Stainless steel cuts the skin right open.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-09-25 12:42:14
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Jetackuu said: »
I'm not particularly sure if that's a HIPAA violation for a nurse/tech to see your xray when they're usually the one who takes it...

X-ray techs take the x-ray.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-09-25 12:45:05
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Hipaa is widely misunderstood. Here's an example when it comes to patient information. On a diet order, you generate a tray card for a patient. The tray card is considered public because it will be accessible by anyone in a communal area like a cafeteria or communal dining area. On that card you can place things like general diet orders, you can say "nectar thick liquid" because it is not patient specific medical information. You can't however put "mechanical soft" as it is identifiable patient information. An xray is not identifiable unless it is embedded with patient information, even a patient number is not because it is a reference to a private network resource. Either you asked the question wrong or your friend is misinformed. Posting an xray itself is not strictly a hipaa violation.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-09-25 12:49:12
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Either you asked the question wrong or your friend is misinformed. Posting an xray itself is not strictly a hipaa violation.

She's not supposed to have access to those files, only the treating physician of that particular patient is supposed to have access to those files. That's the HIPAA violation. Also your circumventing my second point about the moral conduct.

Again the hospital and the state have the right to take action on the grounds of "immoral conduct."

EDIT: They are not misinformed. I discussed this with a physician(doesn't work hospital), a respiratory therapist, a RN and a NP. They all agreed, only the treating physician is supposed to have access to those files.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-09-25 13:00:57
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Either you asked the question wrong or your friend is misinformed. Posting an xray itself is not strictly a hipaa violation.

She's not supposed to have access to those files, only the treating physician of that particular patient is supposed to have access to those files. That's the HIPAA violation. Also your circumventing my second point about the moral conduct.

Again the hospital and the state have the right to take action on the grounds of "immoral conduct."

EDIT: They are not misinformed. I discussed this with a physician(doesn't work hospital), a respiratory therapist, a RN and a NP. They all agreed, only the treating physician is supposed to have access to those files.

Access is a different issue, HIPAA doesn't specifically dictate that only treating physicians are to have access to medical files. Anyone who has a legitimate need can have access to all or part of patient files. A good example would be a repair technician. If viewing the result image is part of the diagnostic process they use, then they are legally allowed to access those. It says she's an ER tech, that could easily mean she's an Xray tech and has access to the images because she takes the dang things. That would not constitute a HIPAA violation. Saving an image with no individually identifiable patient information, again, is not a HIPAA violation, though it is likely a policy violation. And distributing that image would not be a HIPAA violation. In the same sense that a doctor can publish medical information using a fake patient name and redacting any identifiable information.

I've taken 2 classes on HIPAA, which is more than most medical professionals have, and it is very specific about what information is and isn't considered "identifiable". HIPAA is fairly plain English, moreso than most regulations, and you can verify the specifics yourself if you care to.
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