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 Ragnarok.Daffel
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2013-03-04 17:10:07
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*** the wall o text.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-03-04 17:11:16
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Ragnarok.Daffel said: »
could not fine the exact %
From bgw:
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Attack modifier: 1.35~1.45 (1.375)
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By Ragnarok.Daffel 2013-03-04 17:13:33
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Ragnarok.Daffel said: »
could not fine the exact %
From bgw:
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Attack modifier: 1.35~1.45 (1.375)

Yeah I did refind it on BG wiki but lots of that info seemed dated (my info seemed dated, not BG wiki lol) and just copied and pasted it in here so it was a bit of an eye soar. Will PM him the examples if he wants them. Sure OP could do a better job of it than I did.

Edit: Too many derp ridden posts from me, I'm going to sleep.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2013-03-04 17:14:25
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Ragnarok.Daffel said: »
It would also be worth in the job abilities section listing what gear boosts each job ability. Obvious ones like AF/relic hands for meditate but pieces like Myochin Kabuto also enhance Warding Circle by increasing duration by 50% and potency by 2%. Vital for those tough demon fights or soloing demon NMs.


Good point didn't think of these. Will add a section.
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By Odin.Zelphes 2013-03-04 17:15:15
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Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »

83.3 / 4 (dividing by 4 because 4 hits + your WS is a true 5hit build) = 20.825 round it UP because we want to hit that 100 TP. 20.9

That is how much you need in your TP set to reach 100 again in 4 hits. 20.9

Just remember to floor it. It's 20.8
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2013-03-04 17:19:57
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Isn't 20.8 less than the 20.825 required? Thats why I bumped it to 20.9
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-03-04 17:30:04
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Namas Set:


Possible swap, racc+16 ring/clearview earring, augmented shura head on day mekira doesn't proc.

If you make your own group, Yoichi is pretty much the best non koga(maybe better with oat2-4 I do not know!) VW wpn.

Averaged 4k+ Namas on Ig with amano+yoichi and had a ridiculous 9-10%/90% TP/WS damage ratio. (you need 4 song brd, cor and drg to make it work, so not always doable but very fun!)
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-03-04 17:34:46
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Namas is ridic broken with enough buffs. 3x multiplier is hard to beat if you can get the buffs. It is also very accurate and consistent.

I use 2 TP sets with Amano/Yoichi

Post Kaiten/Namas




Post Shoha

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By Ramuh.Austar 2013-03-04 17:37:13
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Terebellum or even Amemet +1 are better back swaps.
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Terebellum or even Amemet +1 are better back swaps.


Thall is generally used for Mul.

So is clearview and Bellona's
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Terebellum or even Amemet +1 are better back swaps.


Thall is generally used for Mul.

So is clearview and Bellona's
It's a single hit WS. You don't need acc on it.
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-03-04 17:43:17
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Yeah, pretty much posted my mul set, using a lil more racc in it when we don't use hunter's roll.
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Terebellum or even Amemet +1 are better back swaps.


Thall is generally used for Mul.

So is clearview and Bellona's
It's a single hit WS. You don't need acc on it.


C+ Skilled weapon on some of the most evasive/defensive mobs in the game. I've missed enough Namas in Mul that I've considered a +16 racc ring.
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Cerberus.Taint said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Terebellum or even Amemet +1 are better back swaps.


Thall is generally used for Mul.

So is clearview and Bellona's
It's a single hit WS. You don't need acc on it.


C+ Skilled weapon on some of the most evasive/defensive mobs in the game. I've missed enough Namas in Mul that I've considered a +16 racc ring.
Just a placebo.
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Stickied.
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Terebellum or even Amemet +1 are better back swaps.


Thall is generally used for Mul.

So is clearview and Bellona's
It's a single hit WS. You don't need acc on it.


You do need racc, as far as I know, Ranged ws don't get the huge acc boost melee ws does, if they do, sidewinder acc make no sense, and 75-80% acc on namas in legion make no sense neither.
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Asura.Ccl said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Terebellum or even Amemet +1 are better back swaps.


Thall is generally used for Mul.

So is clearview and Bellona's
It's a single hit WS. You don't need acc on it.


You do need racc, as far as I know, Ranged ws don't get the huge acc boost melee ws does, if they do, sidewinder acc make no sense, and 75-80% acc on namas in legion make no sense neither.
All WS that don't say "Accuracy varies by TP" get first hit acc boost.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-03-04 17:56:28
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
Terebellum or even Amemet +1 are better back swaps.


Thall is generally used for Mul.

So is clearview and Bellona's
It's a single hit WS. You don't need acc on it.


C+ Skilled weapon on some of the most evasive/defensive mobs in the game. I've missed enough Namas in Mul that I've considered a +16 racc ring.
Just a placebo.


No
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-03-04 17:56:38
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Was it ever tested for ranged ws ? Cause 70% racc on namas doesn't make much sense then.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-03-04 18:00:57
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It's easy enough to test honestly.
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Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
Isn't 20.8 less than the 20.825 required? Thats why I bumped it to 20.9
Game floor decimals. So it becomes 20.8.

Using the sets you posted on first page, a more reliable method of calculating would be

Example 1

Assuming High-end TP set with Rose (Masa):

1.87*11.1 = 20.757 Floored~ 20.7
20.7*4 = 82.8


Fudo:

1.56*11.1 = 17.316 Floored~ 17.3

82.8+17.3 = 100.1


Which will get accurate numbers compared to doing

100-17.3 = 82.7
82.7/4 = 20.675~ 20.6

20.6*4 = 82.4

82.4+17.3 = 99.7


So the decimals don't mess with your numbers.

Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
100-16.7 = 83.3 TP. That is how much you need to WS again.

83.3 / 4 (dividing by 4 because 4 hits + your WS is a true 5hit build) = 20.825 round it UP because we want to hit that 100 TP. 20.9

That is how much you need in your TP set to reach 100 again in 4 hits. 20.9


Example 2

Assuming High-end TP set with Pole/Duplus (Amano):

1.90*11.1 = 21.09 Floored~ 21 (with AM)
21*4 = 84


Kaiten:

1.59*11.1 = 17.649 Floored~ 17.6

84+17.6 = 101.6


Assuming High-end TP set with Pole/Duplus (Amano)

1.83*11.1 = 20.313 Floored~ 20.3
20.3*4 = 81.2


Shoha:

1.52*11.1 = 16.872 Floored~ 16.8

81.2+16.8+1.5(2nd hit)= 99.5


The set posted for Shoha using Pole/Duplus lacks .5 TP (assuming WS with Rajas), but can be remedied by WS with Misuuchi Kappa & Hagneia Stone for example to maintain 5-hit for non-regain situations.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-03-04 18:21:23
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
All WS that don't say "Accuracy varies by TP" get first hit acc boost.

I thought that was only physical melee, Elemental can't miss, only resisted, and ranged are subject to Ranged Accuracy.
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Since Sidewinder/Slugshot exist, it would make sense if it applied to ranged ws in addition to physical ws.

Someone go test it. Blind pots are cheap.
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Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
Shadow mantle, Shadow ring, D ring, Gavial +1, Wiglen, Arhat's +1, relevant earrings from Abyssea (Darkness/Black), I might be forgetting a few things.

Might want to take all of those into consideration.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-03-04 19:12:00
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well for MDT it would be pretty unlikely to actually need 50%, since even vanilla shell V is like 21%, if you're in a DT set, throwing PDT/DT in any extra slots isn't a terribad idea. Hybrid sets are a whole other thing.
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By Lakshmi.Nightscope 2013-03-04 19:23:31
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I forget where i read it but something about Masamune aftermath overwrites Yoichinoyumi and vise versa. Is that statement still true? Might of been both relics do it and not emp. Decided to start working on my Yoichinoyumi a days ago.
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By Carbuncle.Xenhas 2013-03-04 19:35:54
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To be fair, the "seigan hybrid" set in the op can swap out the pants when third eye is down.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2013-03-04 19:36:27
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Lakshmi.Nightscope said: »
I forget where i read it but something about Masamune aftermath overwrites Yoichinoyumi and vise versa. Is that statement still true? Might of been both relics do it and not emp. Decided to start working on my Yoichinoyumi a days ago.
Yoichi AM overwrites all the other AMs, that is why amano is normally the weapon of choice when using namas.
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By Gimp 2013-03-04 19:41:45
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
Shadow mantle, Shadow ring, D ring, Gavial +1, Wiglen, Arhat's +1, relevant earrings from Abyssea (Darkness/Black), I might be forgetting a few things.

Might want to take all of those into consideration.

could factor in Sheltered ring before getting that shell V as a minor detail also.


thank you for the guide

Something I would love to see is actual job ability pairing combos and what is most effective, I've searched around for guides that do explain what they do but not the best way to use them and tp levels. Granted that gets very detailed and probably based on tp level, ws, etc. I'm still interested in knowing if someone wanted to take a stab at it.
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By Toboe 2013-03-04 19:46:46
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How would you reach 48STP in gear without sacrificing ganeshas mala for unkai nodawa. your high end set has 43stp using mala. im not a fan of using rose strap
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