SE DMCA Against Private Server Streams?!?!?
SE DMCA against private server streams?!?!?
Maybe a FFXIV social media rep clicked a FFXI video by mistake and saw the horizon proselytizing, who knows. The entire last thread kept repeating how much they're everywhere. It's not a good look for SE to have as much horizon content(if not more) as retail content on a site like twitch, and while they may not care about FFXI, they certainly do care about their pride.
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That definitely could be. I'm not a huge fan of the approach of going after the content creators, but it is probably easier than trying to go after the emulator given the precedent that I am sure they're aware of. Bummer.
If there were any amount of worry given, they would C&D horizon. They would instantly ***their pants and close it down on the spot. They wouldn't even consider fighting it.
Problem would be instantly and completely solved. Not even a real C&D, just the notice. There wouldn't be any process. Any lawyers. Anything. 3 words.
Problem would be instantly and completely solved. Not even a real C&D, just the notice. There wouldn't be any process. Any lawyers. Anything. 3 words.
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
If there were any amount of worry given, they would C&D horizon. They would instantly ***their pants and close it down on the spot. They wouldn't even consider fighting it.
Problem would be instantly and completely solved. Not even a real C&D, just the notice. There wouldn't be any process. Any lawyers. Anything. 3 words.
Problem would be instantly and completely solved. Not even a real C&D, just the notice. There wouldn't be any process. Any lawyers. Anything. 3 words.
I mean, they probably don't care about private servers, unless someone is pushing them to social media. It's the same for addons and bots right? They don't care much, but make a guide on using some of those on YT and you will get hit instantly like Ejiin. I think it's just a matter of showing on their radar (possibly with help of people reporting it).
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It also can be considered as a bigger threat to the money that they earn than the server's existence. Especially if those streamers become top streamers in the category (so if most of the streams on Twitch are not on the retail server but a certain other one, this could bring returning players to join that server and not retail). They probably just DMCA'd random people that they saw without any specific strategy.
Idiot Boy said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
And why now, after years of not doing it.
This is likely the reason. If there was ever a time for SE to start caring, it's now.
Advertising for Dawntrail is picking up and will hit full swing early next year. These alliance raids are a big undertaking(and expense); they span a year of updates across a major expansion. Even if SE has not cared much about FFXI lately, they absolutely do not want Horizon taking those potential subs or making them look bad to XIV players.
I suspect they don't care if Horizon exists, but they don't want it to be more visible than retail.
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Idiot Boy said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
And why now, after years of not doing it.
exactly, and they're not likely to look kindly on a bunch of these interested parties from 14 (or just 11 returnees) being funneled toward private servers. so if this is really SE (likely) then putting the bootleg server name in the stream title is probably a surefire way to end up in their crosshairs atm
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Tanag said: »
I suspect they don't care if Horizon exists, but they don't want it to be more visible than retail.
Maybe this will be the start of us seeing something like that? I would jump back into creating things for this game if they actually started doing this.
Tanag said: »
I suspect they don't care if Horizon exists, but they don't want it to be more visible than retail.
Official post: "We're bringing back the Harvest Festival, please look forward to it."
Every comment beneath it: "This game is dead, play HorizonXI instead!"
Asura.Gweivyth said: »
it seems like it would be so easy for Square to throw them a bone, not even one that costs anything
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Ragnarok.Jessikah said: »
I suspect it's because they're advertising their server on official FFXI media.
Official post: "We're bringing back the Harvest Festival, please look forward to it."
Every comment beneath it: "This game is dead, play HorizonXI instead!"
Official post: "We're bringing back the Harvest Festival, please look forward to it."
Every comment beneath it: "This game is dead, play HorizonXI instead!"
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Ragnarok.Jessikah said: »
I suspect it's because they're advertising their server on official FFXI media.
Official post: "We're bringing back the Harvest Festival, please look forward to it."
Every comment beneath it: "This game is dead, play HorizonXI instead!"
Official post: "We're bringing back the Harvest Festival, please look forward to it."
Every comment beneath it: "This game is dead, play HorizonXI instead!"
obnoxiously loud horizon enjoyer: "lmao do somethin about it, nerds! u won't" x1000
SE: *finally does something about it*
obnoxiously loud horizon enjoyer: "omg but we're such loyal fans, why are they going after us now?"
Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
That seems too brain dead, even I have a hard time imagining anyone being that stupid... You might as well rob a police department in the middle of the day.
if only it weren't true
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Probably would've been awkward for SE to ignore it, let people get swayed to play private in anticipation for the new raid series, only for parts 2 and 3 to be based off content not implemented, and fans left scrambling to complete WoTG/SoA/RoV/TVR on retail.
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Fenrir.Svens said: »
Probably would've been awkward for SE to ignore it, let people get swayed to play private in anticipation for the new raid series, only for parts 2 and 3 to be based off content not implemented, and fans left scrambling to complete WoTG/SoA/RoV/TVR on retail.
also HI SVENS!
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Ragnarok.Jessikah said: »
Tanag said: »
I suspect they don't care if Horizon exists, but they don't want it to be more visible than retail.
Official post: "We're bringing back the Harvest Festival, please look forward to it."
Every comment beneath it: "This game is dead, play HorizonXI instead!"
Asura.Gweivyth said: »
it seems like it would be so easy for Square to throw them a bone, not even one that costs anything
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Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
That seems too brain dead, even I have a hard time imagining anyone being that stupid... You might as well rob a police department in the middle of the day.
Ragnarok.Jessikah said: »
I've never had Twitter or other social media accounts, but I'm guessing those wouldn't be any different.
not only do they respond & advertise in official SE tweets about 11, but they are @ing square enix and ff11 community reps about the DMCA strikes as we speak
true galaxy brain stuff
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Is it just randos or actual staff doing that? If its staff then they are truly stupid. Its stupid anyway but cant really stop regular players
Nariont said: »
Is it just randos or actual staff doing that? If its staff then they are truly stupid. Its stupid anyway but cant really stop regular players
i do not think SE cares one bit about this distinction
Nariont said: »
Is it just randos or actual staff doing that? If its staff then they are truly stupid. Its stupid anyway but cant really stop regular players
I don't doubt real players are also going around spreading the Good Word about HorizonXI, but I'm sure most actual human beings (especially Aerec And Friends) would be smart enough to not reply to official media. But the fact is, there are posts being made, and I suspect that's what finally caught Square-Enix's attention.
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Yeah it is pretty bad on Facebook. I don't use Facebook very often but when I do its pretty much every third ad. I use Twitter a lot more and haven't seen it there, but whoever owns the Horizon twitter account went out of their way to block me so that might be why I don't personally see it.
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It was getting hard to ignore. There are more Horizon streamers than retail XI.
More Horizon streamers got banned than retail XI streamers exist even.
More Horizon streamers got banned than retail XI streamers exist even.
Asura.Gweivyth said: »
Yeah it is pretty bad on Facebook. I don't use Facebook very often but when I do its pretty much every third ad. I use Twitter a lot more and haven't seen it there, but whoever owns the Horizon twitter account went out of their way to block me so that might be why I don't personally see it.
I thought that you were joking, but there are indeed posts advertising it on the official FFXI Facebook page. Before Social Media, I would never have guessed that people could be that stupid.
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Bahamut.Galakar said: »
Asura.Gweivyth said: »
Yeah it is pretty bad on Facebook. I don't use Facebook very often but when I do its pretty much every third ad. I use Twitter a lot more and haven't seen it there, but whoever owns the Horizon twitter account went out of their way to block me so that might be why I don't personally see it.
I thought that you were joking, but there are indeed posts advertising it on the official FFXI Facebook page. Before Social Media, I would never have guessed that people could be that stupid.
I think I finally have an answer for the question I was asking myself recently. "What type of players would use Self-destruct and Final Sting as BLU in FFXI" :)
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Jeez...
Everyone gloating that those illegal servers might be having dmca issues... grow up...
Everyone gloating that those illegal servers might be having dmca issues... grow up...
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This has been confirmed to have affected people streaming eden as well, with the catseye community putting out warnings about streaming right now.
I guess when the poors Horizon players wake up at 1pm they will start filling this thread with the gospel of aerec again.
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Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
I guess when the poors Horizon players wake up at 1pm they will start filling this thread with the gospel of aerec again.
I think they'd be up earlier than that, if for nothing else than to go to their jobs.
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