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December 2017 Version Update
Serveur: Odin
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By Odin.Geriond 2017-12-10 23:58:20
Man, those DRK hands make me wish scythe or great sword had a good magical WS. As it is, it doesn't even beat Flamma +2 or Raetic for MACC outside of dark magic, so it's just a crazy expensive minor upgrade to drain/aspir.
The RDM hands will be excellent if it's a raw +30 to the spells, but pretty forgettable if it's just +30%.
By Afania 2017-12-10 23:59:16
Notables:
GEO refresh+2, amazing nuke stats
COR, still SE's love child atm, quad shot, wtf...?
wsd+10%: drg + pup (I did guess mnk, kinda close)
BLM mb
drk has 62 mab....
I'm so confused. Did COR win again for dynamis gear?
It depends on the QS proc rate I think. Hand slot already got 3% to 4% TS from oshosi so it may not be a huge improvement depending on proc rate, if at all.
QS proc also doesn't increase ws frequency over TS since we already 4 hit easy, just some extra tp for last stand/salute and a little bit of white dmg.
Man, those DRK hands make me wish scythe or great sword had a good magical WS. As it is, it doesn't even beat Flamma +2 or Raetic for MACC outside of dark magic, so it's just a crazy expensive minor upgrade to drain/aspir.
SEs answer to DRK Dynamis sanguine blade build.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-12-11 00:01:39
Drg, Pup, Blm looks the best overall hands.... really sad how terrible relic+3 has been so far compared to the wow factor AF+3 had.
The only good thing is its nice to see that each melee job will have a wsd10 piece, lets just hope nin doesnt get fed over getting o acc on thier wsd piece this time lol.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2017-12-11 00:03:46
Ambuscade Vol. 1 - No idea; Bozzetto Breadwinner w/ Bozzetto Urchin x9, Bozzetto Housemaker x1
Vol. 2 - Harpeia called Ibong Adarna
where do we find harpie mobs ....... lol
they should still be classified in the bird category, so bird type mobs Thought that was obvious too :(.
Bahamut.Negan
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By Bahamut.Negan 2017-12-11 00:05:09
Ambuscade Vol. 1 - No idea; Bozzetto Breadwinner w/ Bozzetto Urchin x9, Bozzetto Housemaker x1
Goblins/Moblins maybe?
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-12-11 00:05:46
Drg, Pup, Blm looks the best overall hands.... really sad how terrible relic+3 has been so far compared to the wow factor AF+3 had.
The only good thing is its nice to see that each melee job will have a wsd10 piece, lets just hope nin doesnt get fed over getting o acc on thier wsd piece this time lol.
How are PUP hands good? For Howling Fist?
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By Odin.Drakenv 2017-12-11 00:05:57
Ambuscade Vol. 1 - No idea; Bozzetto Breadwinner w/ Bozzetto Urchin x9, Bozzetto Housemaker x1
Goblins/Moblins maybe? Maybe sounds like you need to show them.... the bat negan.
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Asura.Nuance
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By Asura.Nuance 2017-12-11 00:10:12
If rdm hands give an actual +30 to stat from gain that's +55 stat. That's pretty nice stuff.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-12-11 00:11:23
Drg, Pup, Blm looks the best overall hands.... really sad how terrible relic+3 has been so far compared to the wow factor AF+3 had.
The only good thing is its nice to see that each melee job will have a wsd10 piece, lets just hope nin doesnt get fed over getting o acc on thier wsd piece this time lol.
How are PUP hands good? For Howling Fist?
yes, plus other 1 hit ws
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By Phoenix.Thorbean 2017-12-11 00:12:58
Bitter sweet feelings about PUP hands without a really solid single hit WS with decent SC properties/stat mods. Would have prefered 10% Crit Damage, shame no acc on the pet side too. Certainly not anything to write home about. 4/10 would not bang.
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Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-12-11 00:16:58
That's my point. Its a solid weapon skill damage piece for a job with no outstanding 1 hit ws. SS/SP/VS are the better chainers anyway. The subtle blow is very disappointing on the pet side, and the haste is useless when we would just use a piece with acc on it as well. Very underwhelming IMO.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-12-11 00:17:09
well yes, not amazing but still BiS for much more than other jobs got. All dd jobs are getting +10wsd it seems in some slott, hands is a great one for that since its usually one of the weaker wsd slotts for most jobs.
But yes true that pups 100% useless outside of everything but solo play and a few nms at this point anyhow. SE needs to give them some love, but really how can they?
By monkey33333333 2017-12-11 00:17:36
Volte Spats there rly not that bad for a rng acc STP feet
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2017-12-11 00:18:58
well yes, not amazing but still BiS for much more than other jobs got. All dd jobs are getting +10wsd it seems in some slott, hands is a great one for that since its usually one of the weaker wsd slotts for most jobs.
Meghanada Gloves +2 say hi for us light DDs
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-12-11 00:19:25
That's my point. Its a solid weapon skill damage piece for a job with no outstanding 1 hit ws. SS/SP/VS are the better chainers anyway. The subtle blow is very disappointing on the pet side, and the haste is useless when we would just use a piece with acc on it as well. Very underwhelming IMO. Still quite a large amount of DEX and attack for SS.
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-12-11 00:20:46
Truthfully I would have preferred a Pet WSD+10% piece instead. I still have issues with wanting to upgrade Foire Tobe+3 for the same reason, as is hard to fit it into sets. Need to have more master/automaton based gear so we don't suffer so much when forking over our ta herc augments for pet based stuff. Tali'ah was great, was hoping this set would give a few shinies. ; ;
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By Odin.Geriond 2017-12-11 00:21:26
Looking at it again, DRK hands are probably BIS for Entropy when not attack capped, so that's...something?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-12-11 00:21:54
Tali'ah set isn't that great unless you're both struggling for accuracy.
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-12-11 00:22:37
Vol 1 ROE shows worms. Gonna go try
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-12-11 00:23:48
Tali'ah set isn't that great unless you're both struggling for accuracy.
Tali'ah set as a whole, no, but it has some good pieces you can mix and match to provide acc/stat for both pet and master. Head/Body/Feet come particularly to mind.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-12-11 00:26:05
Only piece I use on PUP is legs.
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-12-11 00:28:01
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »well yes, not amazing but still BiS for much more than other jobs got. All dd jobs are getting +10wsd it seems in some slott, hands is a great one for that since its usually one of the weaker wsd slotts for most jobs.
Meghanada Gloves +2 say hi for us light DDs
Fortunately they didn't give any of the light jobs a wsd10 hands.
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Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-12-11 00:29:40
abyssea
Fenrir.Tarowyn
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By Fenrir.Tarowyn 2017-12-11 00:30:23
abyssea has never counted right?
There's the worms in woh? gates, one of them, the icy looking one, lol. Cirdas has some too I think.
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-12-11 00:30:32
Vol 1 ROE shows worms. Gonna go try
where are we supposed to find exp yielding worms lol
Zeruhn Mines?
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By Odin.Geriond 2017-12-11 00:30:43
Abyssea doesn't count for exp required RoE.
By monkey33333333 2017-12-11 00:31:04
Woh Gates, Metalcruncher Worm is the only worms ik of that are not in Abyssea
Asura.Gotenn
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By Asura.Gotenn 2017-12-11 00:31:09
V1 is a Meeble, High counter rate with En-Slow effect.
Has and will use Hundred fists.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-12-11 00:31:15
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Then I don't know off the top of my head.
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