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By Seha 2016-06-24 04:09:49
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Asura.Masrur said: »
An Italian journalist.... You are overreaching! Careful not to break your back lol!
He was reporting it, he didn't do or write that poll I posted. Get over yourself.
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By Bismarck.Leneth 2016-06-24 04:11:49
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Quetzalcoatl.Eradius said: »
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They didn't want to become "European Citizens"
The very large majority of people who voted for Brexit declared they did it because of the immigrants.

Few actually treated it like a problem of sovereignity.


Not trying to be "that guy" but source? I know four people who voted leave and 3 did it for different reasons.

I do know most leave voters were in the older age bracket, which is greatly inflaming the youth as we post. That data is true among my relations, as all of them are over 30 years of age.

This is from YouGov.co.uk
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Control & Immigration

We’ve been asking this question “If you HAD to choose one or the other [control of immigration versus the right to trade freely with the EU], which of the following would you prefer?” Here the results show a de facto tie between Remain and Leave - even amongst the all-important swing voters. It should be noted that these numbers have remained broadly unchanged throughout the campaign almost always floating to within a couple of points of 50/50.
And

Do note, these questions were asked to everyone, so you have to calculate the Remain-topics out of it.
Couldn't find something that lists how much approval each Brexit reason gets, just this most important one thing.

Since the institutes did no Exit-polls this is all we can go by.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Eradius 2016-06-24 04:13:12
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In Australia our immigrants weren't liked.

Then they decided to act sick as hell and fit in by being hilarious and now Wogs are as aussie as meat pie.

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By Blazed1979 2016-06-24 04:15:31
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What they have a problem with is "Immigrants" from Syria, Iraq, and other Middle Eastern nations that are fighting with ISIS.

You're soooo off base. The British have been most frustrated with eastern europeans. That's not to say that they don't also have issues with middle easterners, but the overwhelming anti-immigration sentinment is a result of the increased number of eastern europeans.
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By Bismarck.Leneth 2016-06-24 04:19:14
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Asura.Saevel said: »
UK has zero issues with immigrants from USA or other EU countries
This is wrong. The immigration term in the Brexit debate was about free movement within the EU. It meant East Europeans and mainly focused on Polish people as they form the biggest group.
You could see this even as non-european in the brittish attempt for renegotiations earlier this year.
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By Blazed1979 2016-06-24 04:24:59
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Bismarck.Leneth said: »
Polish people as they form the biggest group.
Would just like to add Serbians, Hungarians, Romanians as well.


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I think what the some people don't get is that the UK can choose to negotiate how many refugees it takes in, and if pushed can outright refuse to take any. But it had no say in how many eastern europeans came in and out of its borders - and that is an entirely different thing than refugee quotas.

British are far more nuanced than to push out blanket sentiments or statements like "*** all immigrants".
They actually understand what the real issues are in their country. It is a completly different population than the US.
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-06-24 04:46:30
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Blazed1979 said: »
@Sav
I think what the some people don't get is that the UK can choose to negotiate how many refugees it takes in, and if pushed can outright refuse to take any. But it had no say in how many eastern europeans came in and out of its borders - and that is an entirely different thing than refugee quotas.

It was the EU's demand followed by the veiled threat of expulsion that triggered the question regarding national sovereignty. Part of a nations sovereignty is it's ability to protect it's borders and determine who can and can not enter into those borders. That's one of the defining characteristics of weather something is a nation or not. When the EU signaled it was willing to usurp that right in an attempt to push it's own agenda, it caused a whole bunch of questions to be asked which resulted in the current vote.

As long as the UK remained in the EU it wouldn't have sovereignty over it's own borders and thus not be a full nation in it's own right. In essence the UK just rejected EU governance.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-24 05:12:23
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Italy should be orange too. And it's missing the northern countries. Sweden has a growing dissent and Finland is a mess too.
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-06-24 05:44:50
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The EU is going to fail, sooner rather then later. The British just called their bluff and put into question the authority of the Governing body of the European Union. The only way to keep that authority intact is to muster the United European Union Military and put down the British rebellion.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-06-24 06:21:58
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Bismarck.Leneth said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
UK has zero issues with immigrants from USA or other EU countries
This is wrong. The immigration term in the Brexit debate was about free movement within the EU. It meant East Europeans and mainly focused on Polish people as they form the biggest group.
You could see this even as non-european in the brittish attempt for renegotiations earlier this year.
He has no idea what he is talking about and has no grasp on the EU's free movemwnt of goods, services, and people. He is unaware of how it works
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-24 06:22:55
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You mean to tell me this is not the Soviet Union?!? And here I almost believed Saevel!
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-06-24 06:26:21
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People calling Jeremy corbyn out for being quiet during the campaign.
but seeing the whole lot of underhanded deals that happened. He did the right thing to not bother tbh.
He agreed that we should leave, and there already was loud voices.
Labours already in a bad position politically. If it had been the opposite way around, and he spoke up and we voted to remain, that would of been total political suicide it seems.
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-06-24 11:49:32
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Issues are arriving about the Le Touquet deal. (Which is about immigration they hold on french soil).
Italy, France, Holland and Denmark have all called for their own referendums. Which was to kinda be expected.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2016-06-24 11:57:21
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Sylph.Shadowlina said: »
Issues are arriving about the Le Touquet deal. (Which is about immigration they hold on french soil).
Italy, France, Holland and Denmark have all called for their own referendums. Which was to kinda be expected.
Pretty sure DK has rejected a referendum, unless we have a change of government.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-24 12:19:16
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Sylph.Shadowlina said: »
Issues are arriving about the Le Touquet deal. (Which is about immigration they hold on french soil).
Italy, France, Holland and Denmark have all called for their own referendums. Which was to kinda be expected.
Yeah I sadi this on previous page.
In Italy it's not possible though, we cannot make referendums to leave the EU. And thankfully we don't have imminent elections either.

..unless Renzi resigns in october(he said he would if the constitutional reform won't pass..)
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By Bismarck.Leneth 2016-07-01 05:08:45
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Austria's presidential election (second round) has to be repeated.
FPÖ won at court. Since it was very close last time (~30.000 votes) there is a high chance for a different result.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-07-01 05:38:49
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Welp, scheisse.
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AfD stomped CDU in Mecklemburg-Pomerania vote
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-11-04 05:21:01
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Denmark seizes thousands in cash from migrants

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A controversial Danish law allowing authorities to seize cash and valuables from asylum-seekers has been used on a handful of occasions since coming into force in February, Danish police said on Thursday.

A total of 117,600 kroner (€15,805, $17,525), all of it in cash, had been confiscated, Danish police told AFP in an email.
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