Locking People Out

The OP of any thread should be able to lock people out of their own threads, so that they may not be posted in that they are expecting to disrupt it.

Then nobody would respond to threads

that is a very good idea

/block tbest


but Korpg is right

Do you realize you're in the XIV Suggestions thread? And yes... I agree. Would be nice instead of having to get a mod to deal with all of the *** here. :P

Yea just realized that. Can delete this thread mods or move it for me, but yea, was meaning to go in the forums suggestions section.

Sure they would, just would make my threads to where certain people can't follow me and attempt to trash them(Whether intentional or unintentional)

What I love about this quote is that it presumes that because certain people can't respond then the world ends...

Honestly if the OP sees that they're not getting the answer/ response rate they expected/ wanted then it's their own fault. They would need to either ask the question better or loosen things up and remove the restrictions on who can reply or not.

There's a short list of de-railers, contrarians, and all around asshats. Whether the labels so ascribed to those individuals were earned fairly is irrelevant. We all have experiences on here where we've posted what seemingly was a simple question only to suffer aggravation from a vocal minority.

So Why not give power to the people and allow topic bans on a limited basis...say put a time limit.... 48 hrs seems fair no? Gives the OP a chance to get an answer from the greater community before the peanut gallery out there starts up with their usual antics,

At best it restores civility to the forums... At worst the forums become balkanized and no one gets an answer to anything...

So you didn't get the answer you were looking for? Whats the point of asking the question in the first place?

What you are suggesting is to keep other's viewpoints out because they are not your own, then you will never learn beyond what you know. If you don't learn beyond what you know, you will never improve (which is the actual reasoning behind the question).

I do have to agree with you Malekith about how a simple question can lead into aggravation, however, it seems that if you don't expect different ideas, you will never reach the answer of the question.

If you are going to be biased about somebody's point of view, then you do not wish to know what is being asked, and wish to start problems, which is the actual basis of 99% of the problems here.

Unfortunally, the civility won't be restored by this. It may help lead to that, but this will more than likely become a burden in the long run instead of a push towards civility.

"So you didn't get the answer you were looking for? Whats the point of asking the question in the first place?"

Not every thread asks a question.

You want civility?

All Scragg/Jaerik has to do is somehow sneak some code into windower so that everytime you log on in windower, your current IP is sent to a database with your usernames/servers. If your ip tries to contact the site and one of your characters is banlisted, you get goatsed. It would allow for the ultimate permaban.

Ok then, if the information is new, and you still don't like it because of the poster, does that make the information incorrect then?

Because if that was the case, I would never take advice from you as to being a MNK, and you would never take advice from me as to being a SMN.

Although you and I will never have a better relationship, which is unfortunate, I would accept any advice you would have concerning the job you are best at. But can you say the same thing?

Yea, because they want to risk several law suits to find out someone's IP

1) I have 0 clue what you're talking about and I never said anything about stuff auto being incorrect because you don't like a person.

2) The lock function in question would would be for particular threads, not a "lock x-person from all my threads" button. Each poster would be able to use their best discretion on what they want who in and what they don't want them in. For example, I make a thread unrelated to ffxi in chatterbox, want to save myself an argument, lock x-person from thread, leave x-person open to talk if I happened to need info on a job I'm taking up

3) I ask all my advice on BG, mainly just give it here, so this wouldn't pertain to me.

1) Why would you want to lock out a person out of a thread? If they are being a jerk, let the admins do their job and kick the bum out.

2) What would stop you from abusing this function in the manner you said? I mean this. They allow this, so every thread XXX make, XXX prevent YYY from posting, even though YYY might have the answer. Some others might have the answer, but XXX might also lock them out because XXX got into a fight with them on who knows what other thread. Whats to stop them from abusing this?

3) BG doesn't know everything. Their information is based on conjecture. Sure, it has some fancy math problems, but does it really answer the question? Plus, not everyone wishes to go there, because of the bad reputation it has currently.

Personally, I'm wondering why you are wishing to do the job of a moderator anyway. They are doing a great job here, let them continue in doing their jobs.

*chuckle*

I'll take a stab at this....

If I ask what does 2+2 = ? I don't expect people people to tell me to "learn to math" or get a calculator. If I ask what's the capital of this country? I don't expect people say google it. If I ask someone on the street what time is it? Do I have to be told to get a watch?

Oftentimes questions on here are fact based, with some room for opinion. Even where people ask is A > B? There's room for maths to back up one's argument yet all too often people stack the bulk of their arguments on opinion. Vegetto is one of the few on here that I've seen who doesn't do that and I tip my cap to him. Atleast he can appreciate that most seeking help on here would appreciate a simple and direct answer.

Yet by an large there people out there who don't understand the rules of how civil people ought to operate... When a person asks a question, no matter how dumb it is in your opinion you have 2 options 1) Answer politely or 2) decline because you don't know. Saying anything else no matter how justified you feel is NOT an option.

What may seem simple and elementary to you obviously is not to the person asking the question (s) in the first place. Granted sometimes a question may have to be rephrased because its objective wasn't clear. It happens, sometimes a thought is too big and has to be broken down. However I gotta love when people ask for help and then have to deal with answers that range from rude to hostile to utterly nonsensical.

Again, if you don't like the question don't answer it. Move on...

I really like the idea of allowing an OP to freeze topics before allowing replies. If anything it'd force people to think before answering. People who are banned initially will eventually be given their chance to speak and have a say BUT not before everyone else has a chance to go before them. Given it's always the same people commenting on every single thread I don't think everyone would be affected and best part is... if mods need to get involved they can still perma topic ban.

TL DNR?
1. Dumb question? Don't answer.
2. OP b& people for 24-48hrs = win. Gives other people a chance to respond
3. "B&" people get their chance to talk, after window passes but can still be permab& by mods.
4. Bring civility back to the boards!

1) It's not about the admins kicking anyone out for being a jerk, as I have no problem with someone being a jerk, but obviously the mods have a problem when I go to dish it back, so this will diffuse said situations before they start.

2) May have a point, but I wouldn't even care if it was limited to chatterbox and flamecore, which is where I see the best use for this function to begin with.

3) While BG may not know everything, and can be ***, they are the most knowledgeable group of players of any of the NA ffxi forums currently available.

That's not my idea anyways. It meant locking from replying. Anyone can read it.

Locking said peoples from posting in your topics. For example, someone posts asking for a smn burn on their server, and then have a group of people not even on their server coming into the thread talking about how smn burn is cheating, totally derailing the thread.

Gee that never happens on these forums... or could it?

Server lockout!